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Apache Recon vs Volkl 5 Star

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
: Well what do you think? The Volkl grips like nothing I've ever been on before. The Recon is significantly wider for more versatility. I've tried the Volkl. I have not tried the Recon But I've heard good things about it and have been on K2 stuff forever. Most of what I ski is midwest hard pack with a few trips out west. Will the Recon give me enough "grip" to still have fun? Will the Volkl be as fun when going out West as the Recon?

What to do? What to do?

And I can only get one! Waaaaaaaaa!:
post #2 of 18
One good slip on ice( yes there is ice out west as well) and you'll be wishing you were on Volkls! I'll never ski another brand for safety reasons. You hit ice and your season could be over. Volkls have best edge grip I've ever skied. If it means a little less float so be it.
post #3 of 18
Recon works fine on midwest hardpack and is a better crud/slush/soft snow ski than the 5 Star.
post #4 of 18
Get the recons. I did over the Volkl 724 pro , I'm also from the midwest like you. You want a ski that will be fun out west and ski well here. Go K2 IMHO.

post #5 of 18
Applesand Oranges, I'd say. Get a wider Volkl..or Fischer..or...there are plenty of nice wood core skis out there. I have never been very fond of the K2 feel, I must say.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lodro
Applesand Oranges, I'd say. Get a wider Volkl..or Fischer..or...there are plenty of nice wood core skis out there. I have never been very fond of the K2 feel, I must say.
I can understand that... everyone has their favorites... it's just that I have been on K2's since back in the 70's and they have always been a fun ski for me.
When I tried the Volks last year it was a nice surprise. They would really hold an arc... almost to good.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by ski=free
One good slip on ice( yes there is ice out west as well) and you'll be wishing you were on Volkls! I'll never ski another brand for safety reasons. You hit ice and your season could be over. Volkls have best edge grip I've ever skied. If it means a little less float so be it.
The comparo should be 724Pro or AC4 to the Recon as others have noted.

As for the above statement....I will only throw up an enormous BS flag. I've not been disappointed with the edge grip available on the Recons, and I've skied them on some pretty stiff stuff. Personally, I like the Volkls better, but thats a feel thing.

Someone mentioned the Fischers.....I'm of the mind that this year's "AMC" in both widths sucks pretty hard. I love Fischer, and I wanted to enjoy the skis...but it wasn't going to happen.
post #8 of 18
Volkl AC3 or AC4
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 
And that’s my dilemma. A narrower ski with excellent edge grip or a wider, maybe more versatile ski, with less (how much?) edge grip.
post #10 of 18
Those recons realy wont provide the grip your looking for. they like to slide.
post #11 of 18
Perhaps get the Volkls for the terrain you ski primarily and rent the K2s (or similar) for the conditions you encounter when you go out west. Who knows, maybe you'll want pure powder skis when you arrive!
post #12 of 18
How many pure powder days do you ski?? Most people I'm sure ski more groomed days than powder days. Even powder days can turn into chunks and then packed pretty soon. I ski the 724 pro's by volkl they give me best of both worlds. Although not a powder ski they are wide enough to get by and edge grip that's out of this world. But I'm 200+ lbs.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by pkerr
And that’s my dilemma. A narrower ski with excellent edge grip or a wider, maybe more versatile ski, with less (how much?) edge grip.
AC3 or 724 Pro. Best of both worlds....
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by pkerr
And that’s my dilemma. A narrower ski with excellent edge grip or a wider, maybe more versatile ski, with less (how much?) edge grip.
Yes, the real dillemma is width. That's orthogonal (sorry, programmer word) to brand/snow feel. If you really like the edge grip of the Volkl, then look for a germanic ski like that. (Maybe shop Atomic too, as IMO it is somewhere in between.) And you'll get just as good edge grip in any case, though you are right it won't feel like as much because you have that much more ski to lever over. OTOH, it will be more stable, even on groomed.

Personally, I'm not big on the one-quiver thing, just because there are so many great dedicated powder skis and dedicated carvers out there. But often it is not an option for people, esp. if you have to haul both on the plane with you. If it were me and I was skiing in the mid-west, I'd go for the groomer oriented carvers and rent some wide-boards when I got out west, as others have mentioned. Any compromize is, well, compromised. That said, there are some excellent mid-fats out there. And note that many of the skis marketted as groomer-oriented out there actually are just as wide as the skis that used to be called mid-fats.
post #15 of 18
The radical parallel particle is perpendicular to the ordiary orthogonal, but that's to be expected!
post #16 of 18
K2's I have skied have a dead feeel when compared to a 5 star. imho

i had Axis XP a few seasons ago (precursor to the recon) and did not like it at all compared to a 6 star. No spring or power out of the turns. Lifeless feel.

However in western deep loose snow it could be different. The lack of load and release feel could be an asset in that setting.

If you like a volkl you probably wont like a k2.

Lodro is right on w/ his Fischer, Volkl or Atomic grouping. Different personality than K2.....

What other ski would be comprable to a K2 in Personality and feel?
post #17 of 18
I think the recon is the way to go..only for the sake of its all around abilities and balanced characterstics. Also, Question i ski the Nordica SUV 12 XBS what do u guys think of that one. I think it has about the same edge grip and hard pack abilities as the Volkl and is definitly better off piste. Its side cut is 115-70-99. Its a real nice ski...very capable. Feel free to say anyother opinions about the SUV 12 or question my choice of the recon
post #18 of 18
Its all good. Seriously, there are some brands I'll just avoid because I don't happen to like their style, but honestly I just first identify the general shape I want, the brands that work for me, and then hunt around for bargains. Variety is the spice of life. Id like to try Nordicas some time, never skied them.
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