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Skins (aussie), SportsLegs (americana)???

post #1 of 53
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While almost heeding some "don't do a damn thing to get ready for skiing", came accross mention of Skins made in Australia, and what the athlete Mr. Pugliese mentioned: SporstLegs.

Any firsthand knowledge,advice, etc. on both these products?

At this stage, anything helps! (as long as it's not the one the P.T. Barnum suckers buy...)

Gracias!
post #2 of 53
I used SportsLegs last year and although I could not do a "controlled" trial (couldn't treat one leg and not the other), I do believe they helped. I can't say they were magical, but I think they made a difference and given my level of general deconditioning, I'll take any help I can get. Some here will say that they take less expensive Ca and Mg supplements but SportLegs are Ca/Ma Lactate and the lactate prob. makes in diff. in terms of buffering the acidity of Lactic products produced during muscle activity. I think it is worth a try. The company sometimes sends free samples if you write and ask.
post #3 of 53
What are sportslegs? To lazy to do my own reasearch right now, kinda hungover : <--- that is not cool either, :
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post #5 of 53
They just look light tight pants. Are there any side effects (e.g. fertility problems or high pitched voice)
post #6 of 53
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Originally Posted by RiDeC58
Huh, do they really work like they say? My wife is a pharmacist so I am going to have her do some research on this for me. Never heard of that before.
post #7 of 53
When I have my first day's skiing without my skins on, my muscles go rock-like after about 3 or 4 hours, depending on how I'm skiing. Then they start to tremble. Within an hour or so, I can't get up or sit down with out pain and stiffness. Then the muscles hurt to the touch, like they're bruised. At night, they are twitching and contracting and buzzing and hurting. Then for the next few days, any movement or activity is incredibly painful.

With Skins? By the end of the day my legs feel happily tired. I keep them on for the evening too, to continue their work. Next day, slight stiffness which vanishes during the first run. No pain, no groaning to sit down or get up, no bruised feeling.

they're not tight, either. they promote them also for wearing on long flights, to combat DVT.

Most top level sports people wear them here, for training, as you can go hard and not need the recovery time. I reckon they are miracle gear. For people who only have one ski holiday a season, I'd say they're a must. They are expensive though!

www.skins.com.au
post #8 of 53
They sound awesome! I get similar feeling in my thighs. Is it $139US (for the bottoms)? Do you wear the tops too? Is the Ca and Mg built into the garments? HaHa, the last question was a joke, but I would like to get some Skins if they help that much.
post #9 of 53
They are 140 here, I think it's a bit less in the US. they have suppliers in the US now, you can find them off the ordering bit of the site. It's a small company, but their product is so damn good they are going gangbusters.

I've always supplemented minerals (as my muscles play up given half a chance) and they make little difference when things get very bad. I skiied my first day this season without the skins (forgot them) and the following day, I didn't ski. I went home.
post #10 of 53
Hmm, the store locater is for OZ only. I'll try to order on-line. Thanks for the link.

When your legs are too tired to ski.., that's what snowboards are for, ant!
post #11 of 53
Used Sportlegs all last season, and must say that there seemed to be improvement in thigh pain after and during skiing. Couln't do a double blind study and my technique might have improved, so who's to say? As many members suggested to me last season, if there is too much discomfort from moderate skiing in the legs it is probably technique and getting into the back seat too much. Overuse of muscles that should be frame supported. That being said, I read about skins and might give them a try too. A junky!
post #12 of 53
Efficient technique? Not an option, I'm a telemarker .
post #13 of 53
I never have any problems with muscle pain or cramping or anything like that after skiing. Try running and lifting to get in shape. Must eat the right protein bars that have the correct amino acids in them so you don't lose muscle from running. You guys really old or something? I'm 27 and sitting here thinking, jesus what are you doing that in 3 to 4 hours you are actually in "pain" very wierd! My muscles get fatigued for short intervals on really steep terrain or smashing in the bumps, but recovery is minutes after the run and no pain after the day at all. i am thinking of using the sport legs pills to control the burn while on those types of terrain.
post #14 of 53
We need some mondo comparison tests.

Skins on one leg, CW-X on the other.

MiG pants vs. Jetskins.

Sportlegs vs. PerfectEquation PrePair

huckingfellers's protein bars vs. elk jerky.
post #15 of 53
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Originally Posted by ant
When I have my first day's skiing without my skins on, my muscles go rock-like after about 3 or 4 hours, depending on how I'm skiing. Then they start to tremble. Within an hour or so, I can't get up or sit down with out pain and stiffness. Then the muscles hurt to the touch, like they're bruised. At night, they are twitching and contracting and buzzing and hurting. Then for the next few days, any movement or activity is incredibly painful.

With Skins? By the end of the day my legs feel happily tired. I keep them on for the evening too, to continue their work. Next day, slight stiffness which vanishes during the first run. No pain, no groaning to sit down or get up, no bruised feeling.

they're not tight, either. they promote them also for wearing on long flights, to combat DVT.

Most top level sports people wear them here, for training, as you can go hard and not need the recovery time. I reckon they are miracle gear. For people who only have one ski holiday a season, I'd say they're a must. They are expensive though!

www.skins.com.au
Ant, when wearing skins do you also use thermals. Do the skins replace the thermals? I usually use one of 3 weights depending on temps. The local USA supplier is found under "contacts" from the Aussie site, but the web like just sends you back to the Aussie site. I wrote an email perhaps that will work. The reason for the questions are that my wife is generally warmer than I and I don't want to get a product that will hold too much heat when not wanted.
Mark
post #16 of 53
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Originally Posted by comprex
We need some mondo comparison tests.



huckingfellers's protein bars vs. elk jerky.
LOL, never had elk jerky. For that matter I don't think I ever had elk! Is it good; for the tummy and could it be so yummy??
post #17 of 53
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Originally Posted by DangerousBrian
They just look light tight pants. Are there any side effects (e.g. fertility problems or high pitched voice)
Don't be concerned DB. That would only be a problem if you actually got laid once in awhile.
post #18 of 53
They're not really thermal, although I did get very hot in them on the plane this trip. I think they have added a slightly thermal property to the ski skins, and wicking properties to the sport skins. In the US, I wear thermals with them if it's very cold. I only wear them for the first few days skiing anyway, after that I don't need them again, unless doing something intense and prolongued suddenly.

Some people get more lactic acid than others. I have very dense muscle, as I began building muscle before I was 10, and did high intensive muscle work in my teens and into my early 20s. Fast twitch is where mine start. People who don't have this probably think stretching or something will fix it! Nope.

The upside is, I can increase my muscle mass on demand within a week, and fixed a serious back problem just by building the right system of muscles. I can also move furniture/whitegoods and push large cars around by myself! The downside is, the muscle starts to explode quite quickly. Skins fixes that.

In the pictures, you'll notice thick orange seams. They are important, you have to line them up, so that the right compression is in the right spots. That's why they make them so bright (also it badges them as Skins).
post #19 of 53

Skins definitely work

My wife and I have both used them for the last 3-4 years and, like Ant, swear by them. For all of the Oz season we participate in a 4 and a half hour Masters class each Sunday which generally means full on hard driving skiing off piste, with lots of steeps and bumps.

Before we started using skins we would suffer from lactic acid build up and aching muscles on the drive home on Sunday evenings. Now we leave the skins on for the drive home and have little or no muscle soreness even at the beginning of the season.

BTW we have worn them in reasonably cold temperatures in Snowbird and Jackson and they seem about as effective as thermals.

IMO well worth the money (and they seem to last well if they are treated carefully)
post #20 of 53
What are the pills that I seen then? You guys talking about some kind of pants. I followed a link to pills...
post #21 of 53
HaHa, yeah, Phil seemed to imply that Sportslegs is the American equivalent of Skins. I think he might have been thinking of some other product with similar name. Anyway users of both the pills and the tights have reported good results. I think I will try both.
post #22 of 53
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Originally Posted by irul&ublo
Don't be concerned DB. That would only be a problem if you actually got laid once in awhile.
This coming from the guy who screws people all week but never has sex. (A lawyer)
post #23 of 53
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Originally Posted by DangerousBrian
This coming from the guy who screws people all week but never has sex. (A lawyer)
Hehehehe
post #24 of 53
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Originally Posted by DangerousBrian
This coming from the guy who screws people all week but never has sex. (A lawyer)
OUCH! The pommy got me.
post #25 of 53
Thread Starter 
Tks y'all! My rudimentary math shows that "the pills" are much,much cheaper than "the tights" for "my" ski season (25 days max). Start popping pills 3 days prior, continue for 3 days aft.

Question is, do these drugs really make a difference VS proper training prior to ski season, proper warm-up and stretching before putting on the skis, and nice,long hot shower or tub with a Tanqueray $ Tonic after a long day at work on the hill?!
post #26 of 53
So, ah, hmm, how much does a pair of panty hose go for?
post #27 of 53
I wouldn't know, Ghost, I've never priced panty hose. Is that what you ski in?
post #28 of 53
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Originally Posted by Ghost
So, ah, hmm, how much does a pair of panty hose go for?
Like he doesn't know.
post #29 of 53
Thread Starter 
Carajao, just answer the "important" question, "the pills or normal crap"...?
post #30 of 53
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Originally Posted by telerod15
I wouldn't know, Ghost, I've never priced panty hose. Is that what you ski in?
No, but it was suggested to me by my Aunt when I was trying to squeeze my feet into too-tight boots. Appearently my Uncle used to ski in them. The skins/sport-legs sound like a pair of $150 dollar panty hose to me.:
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