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post #31 of 55
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Originally Posted by cmsummit
The 'Loaf, my home mountain for 12+ years. Great memories there. My favorite run there isn't technically a run, but it's the area off the backside of the snowfields(south/southeast aspect). Steep chutes and glades, littered with 15' rock drops stair-stepping down through. Just make sure to catch the traverse back to King Pine. If I had to pick a favorite in-bounds run it would have to be Bubblecuffa.

Birdman- Those look like Hayburner glades to me? They calling it Pipe Cleaner these days? Of course alot of the glades look the same back there(tight).
Not Bidman, but its a glade off the side of Timberline. It's not steep at all, but alot of fun as you can see in the pic.
post #32 of 55
Thread Starter 
Actually those are not the Hayburner glades (now called Kick Back as someone pointed out to me). Pipe cleaner is to the left of Timber Line. As lincoln said, they aren't steep but they are narrow and collect a ton of snow (as does kick back after a dump). It's more of an adventure than a real run.
post #33 of 55
I would have to say the backside to cant dog. One sick run, needs a whole lott of snow though

At second I would say any of the glades of the spillway. Nice and steep, and not too tight(for EC stanards atleast)
post #34 of 55
Why do people feel the need to brag that they know where secret tree shots are, and then post the locations? Let people find them on their own. Kinda sucks when you go in there and the whole thing is postholed because people walk down. Don't go if you can't rip it.

Oh yea, and kickback sucks now. It was way better in there before they mowed the whole thing down and put it on the map.
post #35 of 55
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Originally Posted by loafnut
Why do people feel the need to brag that they know where secret tree shots are, and then post the locations? Let people find them on their own. Kinda sucks when you go in there and the whole thing is postholed because people walk down. Don't go if you can't rip it.
Cry me a river! Waaaa! :
It's not like any of the areas mentioned here are huge secrets.
"the loaf has a backside? Huh?"
post #36 of 55
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Originally Posted by loafnut
Why do people feel the need to brag that they know where secret tree shots are, and then post the locations? Let people find them on their own. Kinda sucks when you go in there and the whole thing is postholed because people walk down. Don't go if you can't rip it.
I dunno if that was direct to me but talking about the backside to cant dog, I was not talking about going out of bounds there. I was just saying i like linkin them together. Never even done the OB way to cant dog before, never had enough snow.
post #37 of 55
Not referring to you at all awf170.

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Originally Posted by cmsummit
Cry me a river! Waaaa! :
It's not like any of the areas mentioned here are huge secrets.
"the loaf has a backside? Huh?"
Not much anymore because of people like you. Sounds like you feel pretty cool about skiing lines "littered with 15' rock drops stair-stepping down through". Which isen't even accurate. More like 5'. Why the need to brag and exaggerate? The lines you talk about blow now because every joey gets there, craps their pants and either walks down or sideslips scraping off all the snow. Then they get to the bottom and talk about how extreme they are. If you really ripped you would keep quiet so that the snow would last longer.

The bottom line is that, like at any mountain, if you can ski it, you should have no problem finding it without help.

Considering your location is at 10,578 feet, you clearly don't ski at the loaf anymore and probably don't give a shit.
post #38 of 55
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Originally Posted by loafnut

Not much anymore because of people like you. Sounds like you feel pretty cool about skiing lines "littered with 15' rock drops stair-stepping down through". Which isen't even accurate. More like 5'. Why the need to brag and exaggerate? The lines you talk about blow now because every joey gets there, craps their pants and either walks down or sideslips scraping off all the snow. Then they get to the bottom and talk about how extreme they are. If you really ripped you would keep quiet so that the snow would last longer.
No exaggeration here. You obviously haven't even found what I'm talking about, that's good. "if you really ripped you would keep quiet so that the snow would last longer" haha. That's a pretty dumb statement pal. It's guys like you with your "holier than thou" attitude that give Loaf locals a bad rep. I've been skiing at the 'Loaf since 1978, so get down off your high horse and STFU.
post #39 of 55
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Originally Posted by cmsummit
No exaggeration here. You obviously haven't even found what I'm talking about, that's good. "if you really ripped you would keep quiet so that the snow would last longer" haha. That's a pretty dumb statement pal. It's guys like you with your "holier than thou" attitude that give Loaf locals a bad rep. I've been skiing at the 'Loaf since 1978, so get down off your high horse and STFU.
HA, I've been skiing those lines since they were first cut and I was there for some of the trimming. I know that place like the back of my hand and there are NO consecutive 15 footers. I don't have a "holier than thou" attitude. It was cut for expert skiiers to enjoy. If you find it or a buddy SHOWS you, ski it and have a blast. Just don't go shouting to the world so that intermediates find it and hurt themselves or scrape off the snow. The places you mention have become overrun with skiers who can't handle it.

I just wish you wouldn't insist on insulting me and exaggerating your claims.

You can't have been much of a loafer since 78 if you think locals there have a bad rep.
post #40 of 55
Thread Starter 
congradulations on being an ******* loafer. I have been a Loafer since '91 (I was only born in '87 so cut me some slack) and I hate guys like you. The mountain is meant to be skied. I know a lot of the "secrets" because I ski with nice guys who aren't afraid to show someone else a good line. By your way of thinking, none of these lines would ever be discovered because you'll take them to the grave. If you know something, share the wealth and don't be a dick. Most of the stuff isn't a secret anyways as glades that weren't marked on the map 5 years ago are now marked.

EDIT: BTW do you really think any of the intermediates who scrape snow off trails are going to be reading this? And if they do, good for them I hope to see them out there learning the ropes.
post #41 of 55
This thread looks like it was taken from a Killington message board.

They are always bitching about hidden lines and tree runs that are now on maps.

I used to think that divulging where unspoken stashes are on a message board was bad because a local or buddy should show you where they are and then it is passed along that way.

The trouble is I have never had a local show me any and my wife is a Mainer.

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post #42 of 55
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Originally Posted by Birdman829
congradulations on being an ******* loafer. I have been a Loafer since '91 (I was only born in '87 so cut me some slack) and I hate guys like you. The mountain is meant to be skied. I know a lot of the "secrets" because I ski with nice guys who aren't afraid to show someone else a good line. By your way of thinking, none of these lines would ever be discovered because you'll take them to the grave. If you know something, share the wealth and don't be a dick. Most of the stuff isn't a secret anyways as glades that weren't marked on the map 5 years ago are now marked.

EDIT: BTW do you really think any of the intermediates who scrape snow off trails are going to be reading this? And if they do, good for them I hope to see them out there learning the ropes.
I'll show anyone a sweet line as long as they are good enough to enjoy it. So how about you read my post before being such a dickhead.

Typical of a SNE ******* who comes up to maine and thinks that everything is theirs for the taking. You are a guest here. You didn't put any effort into making these glades. You are more than welcome to ski them if you can actually ski them. BTW I don't hate people from SNE, just ones with city attitudes. I have shown the goods to at least 8 people from mass/south in the last 2 years. I don't horde.

Also, intermediates don't learn too much when they are WALKING down in their ski boots. Or stepping down sideways. Get comfortable in cant dog and the rest of the expert glades first.

I have never been shown a tree line at any of the different mountians I visit. Yet I always can find the best shots on my first or second day. Its pretty friggin clear were they are if you are comfortable in the backcountry and can read a topo map. Anyone who needs to be shown a stash, probably doesn't belong there. If you aren't comfortable in the backcountry then you probably shouldn't be out of bounds anyway.

So I don't understand why it needs to be posted on a message board. The experts always find the goods anyway. Lazy people want to be spoon fed everything.
post #43 of 55
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by loafnut
Typical of a SNE ******* who comes up to maine and thinks that everything is theirs for the taking. You are a guest here. You didn't put any effort into making these glades. You are more than welcome to ski them if you can actually ski them. BTW I don't hate people from SNE, just ones with city attitudes. I have shown the goods to at least 8 people from mass/south in the last 2 years. I don't horde.
Yes, I am from Southern New England. I am also 18 so i really don't have much control over where I live. Also, by virtue of paying either $350 minimum (which I have done) for a pass or 62 bucks for a lift ticket, yes I do think it is mine for the taking should I choose to ski on it. Thats why people buy tickets. I know a lot of locals at the loaf who are great guys and it saddens me to see you misrepresent them.
post #44 of 55
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Originally Posted by loafnut
You can't have been much of a loafer since 78 if you think locals there have a bad rep.
I don't think locals there have a bad rep, but it's possessive *******s like yourself that'll give them one. I've only ever heard visitors talk great things about the folks at the 'Loaf and I've never heard a local get pissed off about sharing a sweet line with someone. I'm a born and bred Mainah, I learned to ski there when I was 5, skied there consistently for the next 13 or so years, and I try to get back there whenever I can. I really get a kick out of "I'm too cool, I own this mountain" jerks like yourself. Grow up and realize that it's not your mountain. If I want to share my favorite part of the hill, I will. It's everyone's mountain to enjoy, as far as I'm concerned.:

Btw- the area I'm talking about has never been cut nor trimmed. Keep looking and maybe one day you'll find it.
post #45 of 55
Alright, I defiantly see where loafnut is coming from with his aguement. Locals are very touchy with there BC stashes and I know i would act the same way if I lived up there and put a lot of work into them. In the past I have posted some BC pics and info, and now feel very dumb about doing it. The thing is with this message boards is there are a ton of luckers(150 guest on this website right now just looking for BC info like this and just going out there and skiing it and not having the skills. I didnt really think about this aspect of it, and now i feel like i should of kept my mouth shut. So ya, loafnut is being a little harsh but i defiantly see where he is coming from with this
post #46 of 55
If you wanted to have a stash be top secret, why build it on THE SIDE OF A SKI RESORT?!?! Get some skins.

By the way, Loafer since 1995. That was the first time I found a bus or someone to take me. Would've been going up there earlier if I had a license then.

Favorite run is: gosh I love 'em all.
post #47 of 55
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Originally Posted by Birdman829
Yes, I am from Southern New England. I am also 18 so i really don't have much control over where I live. Also, by virtue of paying either $350 minimum (which I have done) for a pass or 62 bucks for a lift ticket, yes I do think it is mine for the taking should I choose to ski on it. Thats why people buy tickets. I know a lot of locals at the loaf who are great guys and it saddens me to see you misrepresent them.
This is about all im going to say.

1. You pay $$ to ski the mountain and use the lifts and you follow sugarloafs rules. (boundary to boundary). So in-bounds secrets are fair game, and they go on the map all the time, at all mountians. (see: killington)
Once you go OB you are in the backcountry and should behave responsibly there. Your 62$ lift ticket doesn't mean shit there. A few OB facts: Nobody will save you if your hurt. Know the area. (topo etc) Go with a buddy. And most importantly, don't go above your ability level.

2. You are skiing off the fruits of somebody else's labor. Sugarloaf doesn't cut these. Many are not on their property. So again paying 62$ to sugarloaf doesnt really make sense. If your really pumped about OB stuff go somewhere and make somthing. (Just don't take any big trees). Or even better, take a pair of hand clippers and remove some brush from existing lines. Many are grown up. Give back. Or if you just want to rip it, thats cool, just don't publish it.

3. There used to be a sled OB in case anyone got hurt they could be ferried down. The hordes of weekend warriors that descend OB at the loaf have caused management to remove a sled from the area for insurance reasons. I guess too many people were getting hurt. So thanks a lot for spreading the word.

I'm not trying to be the ******* local here or overly possesive, i just don't think an internet forum is the place. This thread has over 500 views.

Also ron, the only stashes that need to be secret are the ones on the side of a ski resort. Ease of access makes them very popular. If you have to skin to it, nobody goes anyway. No sense in keeping a line you have to skin to secret.
post #48 of 55
I started skiing in 1986 at the age of 37 and the Loaf has always been numero uno for me. My children learned to ski and ride at the two Sugars' "Loaf" and "Bush". I took my first snowboarding lesson at the Loaf during the end of a wet and warm and foggy at the top February school vacation in 1995.

Ripsaw (when open-no snowmaking trail)and the trees/glades next to it and below it and Scoot and its' glades and trees are my favorites. Yeah, I know it is real difficult to traverse the entire mountain from left to right or vice versa to get to these trails, but I will generally start at either side of the mountain and work my way across. And as we all know, King Pine can be on wind hold a lot.

I managed about 12 days at the Loaf last winter and hope to do more this year. Hope to see you all there....except real early on a powder day.
post #49 of 55
i love sugarloaf

gondi line
kings landing
white nitri
narrow gauge love them all
post #50 of 55
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider
An unusually soulful reply, with a great recovery! (sorry, never been there, this was the only way into the thread.
Thanks, it was a soulful place. I didn't interact with the locals that much. There wasn't ever anybody in the lift line to ride up with, but the lifties were the most friendly I have ever been served by. They always were smiling and saying "Hi! Are you from Maryland? Welcome!" Maybe we were the big group of gapers, but they didn't make us feel that way. Even the guy who stayed in the hut and let me grab my own t-bar seemed to be really welcoming to me. Like, you're from Maryland and you don't need help getting on a T. It's cold out there, you are having fun, enjoy the ride!
post #51 of 55
Thread Starter 
You four, Git 'Er Done!
post #52 of 55
Can anyone comment on the best time to hit the 'Loaf? I'm looking from mid-March to early April. I assume more crowds the earlier I go, but how quickly do the conditions typically deteriorate as the season winds down?
post #53 of 55
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Mid to late March is probably ideal. March is their snowiest month.
post #54 of 55
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Originally Posted by SKI-3PO
Can anyone comment on the best time to hit the 'Loaf? I'm looking from mid-March to early April. I assume more crowds the earlier I go, but how quickly do the conditions typically deteriorate as the season winds down?
The conditions at Reggae Fest were awesome this past April. Tons of snow. Most of the mountain was open and there was still some tree skiing to be had. Personally, I would aim for mid-March though to take advantage of the best snow conditions.
post #55 of 55
I'm a fan of Wedge and Boomauger. Haulback and Widowmaker in the early a.m., too. I've done the 3rd week in March for the past 5 years (kids ski free!) and I've never been disappointed. Aren't the guys at the base of the superquad great, especially when they're handing out apples??!!
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