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post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
Ok, I give up. I know I have fat feet. I just want a pair of boots that won't make my feet feel like they are in a vice.

I have tried all the standard brands out there and had them heated,pushed,and every other thing bootfitters across the country have suggested.

The question of the week is has anybody tried Strolz skiboots? They are apparently the best thing out there for us people with spatula feet.

I have also hear that Dale is making a custom boot.

Any info would be appreciated!
post #2 of 30
Hey coldfeet, have you tried Technica Icon? They are generally for a high volume foot. I have pretty wide feet and a high arch and swear by Technicas. I bought the Technica TNT Comp in 1996. Also invested a lot in a comp foam liner and an excellent cork footbed and have had no problems in 5 years on them (approx 300-400 days). Minimum pack out, and only marginal shell degradation.

When the time comes I will be going to Technica Icon Carbon as I have tried them and are a great fit as well, so give them a go.

I would be pretty disappointed if a boot that cost whatever a Strolz costs packed out enough to need a new buckle in 40 days.
post #3 of 30
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheRockSkier:
I would be pretty disappointed if a boot that cost whatever a Strolz costs packed out enough to need a new buckle in 40 days.[/QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't every boot pack out eventually? I thought a linner normally lasted around 120 days, 300-400 days is impressive.
Rockskier - what manufacture are your liners?

The buckle on the toe box was on the last notch so I wanted to get a new shorter buckle cable before they were a year old. To be honest, I now wear much thinner socks than I did when the boots were moulded so I'm not sure how much is down to packing out or how much is down to the socks. Some people recommend wearing a very thin sock when getting the liner moulded.

Seen a lot of good skiers wearing Technica Icons and have read that they are a very good boot, but I doubt they go as wide as the special fit boots (i.e. Dale, Strolz etc). A friend of mine has Technica Icons and wide feet and has fit problems.

post #4 of 30
I have Dale boots. I switched from Lange L8 because I wanted a more comfortable fit and the ability to have canted heels and soles. They have the option of neutral, 1 and 1/2 and 3 degree cants. My boots fit great and the cants are just what I needed. They guarantee a good fit. It's based on tracings of the feet with arch detail. There are also key measurements included. I faxed my information to them and within two weeks my boots arrived. You can check them out on their website. Let me know if there's anything else you want to know about them.
post #5 of 30
Strolz and Daleboot are solutions!

I have had both in years past. Both companies will take care of you. My Daleboots (circa 1978) had minor annoying hardware problems, I learned to keep (like a Raichle guy )spare parts. The Strolz were beefier, but heavy as hell back (1973)then. Things have changed, the Strolz is lighter, and I bet Daleboots are sturdier...

Both companies made me a boot that fit very well, and I was comfortable. YAY!

How wide is your foot, coldfeet? Personally, I go a solid EEE, with a huge instep. The foot is wide even past the midfoot twords the ankle. Then, to add to the fun and games I have a fairly narrow ankle and heel. Hobbit feet?

I'm on my last pair of (early 90's) Nordica GPV's - the high volume version of the "Benneton" colored yellow and green Grand Prix. This is one of the few boots "off the shelf", no stretching, that I've ever owned. Purchased multiple pairs, on sale, and now I'm on my last pair, 10 days. Been getting 350+ days out of them, padding things a bit twords the "end".

The others were Dachsteins, but the heel was a bit big.
post #6 of 30
Thread Starter 

I tried the Technica and they were too small. I have heard the new Rival XL is even wider than the Icon.

But at this point and time I am ready to shell out the big bucks just to find something that will fit without having to deal with endless fitting sessions.
post #7 of 30
Thread Starter 

Hobbit feet? Yup,you have that right.

We have the same kind of feet. When I was a kid and racing the factory fit teams would just go nuts trying to fit my feet. I has gotten worse as I have gotten older. I have to buy Cole Hanns and Clarks just to have something to fit my foot.

I hate to spend $800.00 on a pair of boots but like I said before I am tired of the endless fitting session. :
post #8 of 30
The Rival XL is ridiculously wide.

Is there a shop near you that sells Strolz? I've seen the Strolz shop in Lech, and it's pretty impressive what they do there. They really do build the boot from the ground up.

DB - are your boots foam? Does Strolz even have a non-foam boot? My understanding is that foam pretty much does not pack out, but ALL non-foam boots do (although the higher the quality, the less packing).
post #9 of 30
Thread Starter 

We have a local shop that sells Strolz. It is the same shop that Kristina Koznick worked and skied for in Bloomington, MN.
post #10 of 30
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by epic:
DB - are your boots foam? Does Strolz even have a non-foam boot? My understanding is that foam pretty much does not pack out, but ALL non-foam boots do (although the higher the quality, the less packing).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes my boots have a foam injected leather inner, if you're right maybe it was just the different sock thickness.


PS Those of you with Dale/Strolz boots do you also have footbeds?

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 14, 2002 08:43 AM: Message edited 1 time, by DangerousBrian ]</font>
post #11 of 30
I'll 2nd That Dale boot recommendation.Daleboot is more then a Bootfitter They are the only custom bootmaker in North America.Not only is the fit guaranteed The boots also proform.You'll pay about what it would cost for any high end boot,between $500 to $600 But you'll have a boot that will fit, proform and last for many years.Dale made some liners for my old TNT's The liners are great. Now that the TnT's are about to give up the ghost. I'm getting Daleboots.Check them out i know you will be happy.
post #12 of 30
I would think a professional could get any boot on pro-form. Well, maybe not Strolz, but I didn't get the impression that our friend here is a professional skier.
post #13 of 30

I have had Strolz boots for just over a year now. Bought them for comfort/performance and not because I have unusual shapped feet. Put about 40 days skiing on them, they have padded out a little but the shop just changed the buckle to a shorter one (at no cost) and all was fine again.

Strolz (distributed by Donovan, George D., and Sons), (508) 475-5062

post #14 of 30
Daleboots on my feet = no more clampcramp, no more black toenails.
Where I'm at, there is one of the few shops that retails Daleboots (He's been selling only Dale for over 20 years now. Brags that folks get 1 or 2 fittings and then he never hears another complaint till they come in after 10 years for another pair)
He got one of thier off-the-shelf units and custom ground the liner thickness to fit my only slightly odd feet and pressure points.
They have a tweekable arch support with 3 screws instead of the typical 1 (if any) so I'm using them this season without a footbed. Might get one next year.

Daleboot has an online web page with order forms. Check 'em out. http://www.dalebootusa.com/
post #15 of 30
I tried taking the orthotic arch support out of my Dale boots and replacing it with my custom foot beds but all that did was to throw off my balance. I replaced the plastic adjustable piece with the screws, took out the footbeds and found that my balance returned and my arch support was just as good, if not better.
post #16 of 30
Hey, coldfeet! Would that shop be Pierce Skate and Ski?

I grew up in Bloomington, learned to ski at Buck Bump and Hyland Hole. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Got my Strolz boots from the old Alpen Tram shop at the Southtown (Wards) center. Long gone.

Ever ski at Wild? I used to teach there...
post #17 of 30
Thread Starter 

Ya sure ya betcha. Which means yes for you who haven't seen Fargo yet.

I have skied Buck Hill or Yuck Hill as my 10 yr old calls it. After moving here from Ca. it was the first ski hill I saw. Talk about depression.

We ski either Lusten or Spirit mt. I just can't take the tudes from the knuckledraggers and jibbers at Buck.

I haven't skied Wild yet but am thinking about being a patrol there next year.

I went to Pierce last nite and of course they are out of my size in the Strolz. Sooo, it looks like I will be buying the Dale instead. It seems to be the best choice anyway.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 15, 2002 09:06 AM: Message edited 1 time, by coldfeet ]</font>
post #18 of 30
I had a pair of Strolz boots made in Lech in 1982. (BTW with the exchange rate at that time from Austrian schillings to dollars, they cost under $200.) I went into the shop in the morning and they took all of the measurements of my feet and noted potential hot spots. Then I went back in the afternoon and the leather inner boot was ready. Next, the foam was injected. The boots still fit today. My foot is narrow over all, but it is disproportionately wider at the ball of the foot than at the heel. Consequently, when a shoe or boot is wide enough at the front, it is often too wide at the heel and vice versa. Even though far more expensive today than 20 years ago, Strolz boots can be quite cost effective if you factor in having to replace boots because of poor fit. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #19 of 30
Thread Starter 
I just looked at the Dale website and I see that boots from Dale are about $200.00 cheaper than the Strolz.

I am wondering how the fit would be considering that they are mail order? I just have a hard time believing that the fit would be correct.
post #20 of 30
In both cases, (daleboot & Strolz) it would be better to be there in person, but...

Did you look at the fitting instructions on the Daleboot website? Those measurements cover it pretty well. I did these same measurements when I ordered mine, via Snail Mail, before the internet days.
post #21 of 30
i have the strolz boot, and love it.  they have over 200 days on them.  they are pretty well packed out, but still fit, with a slightly thicker sock.  i need to get a new pair, but i want the same boot, and am afraid not to go back to Lech to get them.  i may try the local dealer, but, it would stink to not have them fit as well as the pair i got 6 years ago at the original store.  i guess my point is i like them so much i could ever go back
post #22 of 30

I think the OP has gotten new boots by now.


Sorry, couldn't resist!

post #23 of 30
8 year bump..............gots ta be a new record.

post #24 of 30

I'm late to the game here but would like to chime in with my Strolz experience.   I've been skiing over 30 years, worked in a shop for 10.  I've never had luck with boots fitting me without pain.  I've tried 3 custom footbeds, one was even made my a product rep another was made a a reputable shop in ski country.  No matter what I did, I still had tons of pain.  Was known on several occasions to stop in the middle of a trail, sit down and rip my boots off on the mountain.  At the very least I would always have to unbuckle boots in lift line or lodge then stop at the top to buckle them.  A major pain in the arse for anyone skiing with me.  "Wait a minute guys, I have to f***with my boot!"  Finally decided to bite the bullet around 5 years ago and try Strolz.  I don't live too far from Strand's ski ship in Worcester, MA and have heard good things.  I have zero regrets!  I've never had any pain whatsoever.  I buckle them in the morning and leave them buckled all day even through lunch.  Leif (at Strands) really impressed me with his skills, I wouldn't hesitate to go back.  He's a wee bit eccentric.  Looks more like a Hell's Angel than a ski boot fitter.   But what an artist!  My only complaint is they could be stiffer.  But I'm 6'1", 240 lbs.  If you're having trouble with your boots,  treat yourself and go Strolz.

post #25 of 30

Had Strolz boots back in the early 90s.  The plastic buckles would break daily and the boot was fairly soft.  Also, they were never as comfortable as I thought they should be for being custom foamed.  It was the the buckle problem that led me to stop using them.  I would have to carry duct tape to keep the boot together!  I had bags of spare buckles but they just kept breaking!!!


Needless to say, I've had several pairs of boots since then and have finally settled on Nordica Dobermann WC plug boots with the lace up liner.  Apart from occasional cold feet(mostly solved by boot heaters), these are the most comfortable boots I've ever worn.  My feet hurt only once in a while and then I usually loosen them up for a few minutes and then tighten them down again and can leave them for the day!

post #26 of 30

Well, since we're bumping ancient threads...


I'm in a newer pair of Strolz boots (also from Strand's in Worcester, MA), and IMO they're plenty stiff.  Probably not as stiff as Doberman WC plug boots, though.  Very comfortable when they're fit properly.


I was told they can adjust the density of the foam somewhat in the liners.  Some of the Strolz shells also have a compression spring system that can be swapped out to change the flex to a certain extent.  But they're probably not going to be as stiff as a super-high-end race boot.


The buckles are still kind of crappy.  I've had a couple of them break (to be fair, in 3 seasons of heavy use), and the lower ones will sometimes pop open if they get snow jammed in them.  They have this overly clever ratcheting thing that is very adjustable, but not as reliable as the buckles most manufacturers use.  The good news is they're easily replaced.

post #27 of 30

This is all news to me about the buckles.  I haven't had one problem and I think the ratcheting design is genius!

post #28 of 30

The buckles are terrible, I had several fall apart. Replaceable, but a pain if you are far from a Strolz dealer. The ratcheting system makes you figure out the setting every time you buckle your boots, you can't "lock" your preferred position.


I tried to replace mine with other boots, but the fit is just not the same.

post #29 of 30


The ratcheting system makes you figure out the setting every time you buckle your boots, you can't "lock" your preferred position.


How so?  Strolz buckles are all about holding your last position.  We must have different models

post #30 of 30

The ratchet does lock in the direction that makes the buckle more loose, but slides freely to make the buckle tighter. After unbuckling the ratchet typically ends up sliding to a tighter position. The lock mechanism tends to ice up and unlocking with gloves on is not easy.

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