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post #451 of 543
Hi Jeff. Thanks in advance for the help.

Background: I'm 43, 6'1", 185. Expert skier, ex racer, workout/train every day. Still in very good shape. Ski very aggressively, bumps are my preference, if not, then I go off piste. Love the BC too.

A ski rack mishap last season forced me to re-stock my quiver. I demoed a bunch of stuff, and decided on Volkl superspeeds, 6 stars, and 724 exps. Couldn't decided, and I loved them all.

I got new boots this season as well. I have a funky foot, so when I get my boots tweaked the way I like them, I usually keep them for years. My last pair was Nordica Grand Prix R, and I had them for probably 10 years. This year, I got Tecnica Diablo Flames. They seemed pretty flexible to me, but the salesman assured me that boots are much more flexible these days, and it was a high performance boot. They felt like Ugg boots....extremely comfortable right out of the box. Researched them on the net, and they seemed like they would be a good match, especially since I'm not racing anymore. I was mostly interested in comfort.

I got out on the slopes, and they just didn't perform as well as my previous boots, but I'm not sure if that because of the boots, or because of the new skis, or both. I've been skiing on them the enitre season, so I really don't notice anymore. They are about 100x more comfortable though. I was hoping to increase the performance level a bit, and I have Sure Foot orthotics, which seemed to help a bit. What else can I do?

1. I've been thinking about getting Boosters. Have heard some great things about them. which ones should I get. I was researching the advanced/expert ones, but now they have a WC Booster. Any good, or not?

2. How about Foot Leveler skithotics. Are you familiar with those at all? I can get them from my doctor's office. They are a casted orthotic specially designed for ski boots.

3. Any suggestion for upping the performance level a bit would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
post #452 of 543

I can't find the right boot or good advice at shops

I am 25 5'10" 170lbs A/B width foot & I cannot find a boot to keep my heel down. I am a very aggressive 9/10 skier for over 15 years. I ski mostly steeps, glades & bumps but I also love to go very fast on the groomers (as I live in the east, grew up at Jay Peak VT) Now I mostly like to go out to Jackson & Snowbird. I have not been able to find anyone that says the same thing now. I have gone to over 10 different shops. Some say to stay stiff, some say to go soft. I was skiing an old pair of Lang 120's. I recently bought a pair of Tecnica Pro 130's this year but they were improperly fitted to large and I had to get rid of them. I have been told that I should get a softer boot so I have been looking at the Salomon Pro Gun model but I am not sure that I will like the softer flex. I have also been told to stay with a stiff boot and that no matter what stiffer is better, even if your freeriding or in the bumps. I am not to picky on comfort, I just want my foot to stay put.



1) What flex do you recommend, Is a stiffer boot always better (assuming you are good enough to control it)

2) Is the Salomon Gun a good fit for me (I hate gimmicks and I feel the hexagonal holes are just that)

3) Should I buy a properly fitted Tecnica Pro 130

4) Is there a better boot for me? Should I wait for next years models?



Thanks,



Nick
post #453 of 543
Hi Jeff,

Background: male skier looking for a race boot. I have two boots on my list: the Atomic RT Ti (2007) and Nordica Dobermann WC 150 (2007). I have a narrow foot with a medium to low instep. I want a boot with a more upright stance (the Dobermann) but i was told that it has a higher instep than the Atomic RT Ti. I want to use it only for freeskiing.

Questions:

1. In terms of fit, how does the Atomic RT Ti compare to the Dobermann WC 150?

2. In your opinion, which boot is a better choice for freeskiing?

3. If the stance of the Dobermann is better for me (i really want to be more upright), do you think i should go with the WC 150 (even if it has a slightly higher instep than the Atomic)?

4. Is the Dobermann visibly more upright than the Atomic? If it is just a bit more upright then i would choose the Atomic.

5. What would you do if you were in my place? Would you choose the stance or the instep?

Thanks in advance!
post #454 of 543
Jeff,

Background: male, 150lbs, with an average foot. I have a medium forefoot, relatively narrow ankle/heel and medium instep. I am looking at the Rossignol Radical Carbon and semi-plug boot. The Radical is the old Elite series (but the boot is orange).


1. Could you compare the Rossignol Radical Carbon/Elite Carbon to the semi-plug in terms of fit?

2. Could you compare the Radical Carbon to the Tecnica Icon Alu Comp in terms of fit?

3. You stated in a post that the Rossi is heavy and too roomy. What does make it heavy? Does it move like an SUV?

4. How different is the Radical Carbon than the Elite? Only different graphics?

5. How does the semi-plug compare to the Radical Carbon in terms of fit?

6. How does the semi-plug compare to the R2005 in terms of fit?

7. Do the Radical Carbon and the semi-plug have high insteps? How do they compare to the full plug? The R2005 has a very high instep (IMO)

Thanks in advance!
post #455 of 543
Hi Jeff, great of you to offer up your expertise.
1)I am a 6' 205 lb fit male expert skier, ex whistler patrol.
Ski blacks aggessively, double blacks somewhat aggressive dependinging on conditons. Will not shy away from anything except 20' plus hucks.
20 Skiing on 172 B5 metrons this year love them in everything bumps powder trees, except closets. Last year on R11 20 pulse 180s thought they were the answer until getting my b5s now backup/rock ski.
3) wearing Technica icon x's the last 5? years size 10 1/2 (the orange tiger striped) street shoes are a size 12. icons fit reasonably well after a break in and a bit of forefoot punchout around "6th toe" area on both feet.
worked well for years , now finding that no matter how tight i cinch up power strap (on inside) the edge of liners now touch preventing furhther tightening

4) in your expert opinion can you reccommend a boot brand irrelevent

thank you for your time regards greg

probably to your area next feb. for annual trip
post #456 of 543
Jeff: I ended up getting the Beast 10s -- the fit is wonderful right out of the box and better with the liners heated to fit. Plus at 40% off -- $285.00 -- its a lot of boot for the money and a big step up from what I've been wearing.



Quote:
Originally Posted by skidad55
I posted this elsewhere but I know you're the expert on this.

Age:51
Weight: 175
Skis: metron XI 157's (I like them a tad short)
Most recent skiing: beaver creek -- blues such as harrier, redtail, larkspur bowl, raven's ridge. Normal skiing: loon in NH -- all blues and most blacks. Want to be able over time to ski less well groomed trails and more bumps/trees (subject to knees cooperating).

A while back you recommended Nordica Beast 10's which I demoed in BC (they are available as normal rentals as Gorsuch), and I liked them a lot. Very comfortable with extra room in the toes. My instructor also recommended Speedmachines. Given my age I'm not going to be buying boots every year or two so these should last me for 3-4 seasons given the cost.

Can you help advise on which boot to choose assuming that they are equally comfortable (which they appear to be unfitted).
post #457 of 543

Lange Comp 120 MF (04/05 model) - numb toes

Hi Jeff,

I appreciate your time and efforts to answer our questions.

I'm very happy with my Lange Comp 120 MF (04/05 model) except 2 issues - my toes are getting numb after 2-3 hrs skiing and I'm getting cramp in area around 5th Metatarsus when taking boots off. Numb toes does not happen always, and apparently it is related to position of feet inside the liner and liner inside of the shell - as the liner is moving inside the shell when unbuckled (at least much more than I'm used to from my previous boots). I feel 2 minor pressure points in foot sole - forefoot area.

My understanding is that numbness is caused by compressed vein/nerve somewhere in instep area of foot.

Questions:
1. Is my explanation for numb toes cause correct?
2. Can this boot be modified to gain additional room in instep area?
3. If yes, what modifications and their priority would you suggest?
4. Would custom footbed/orthotics help?

Thanks in advance.
post #458 of 543
Jeff are you working 3/12/06?
post #459 of 543
Hi Jeff,


1).. Info : - Male , 25, 5'11", 140#s.. Aggressive skiier.. .. Low volume feet and skinny shins and ankle.. I pronate while running. I ski anything and mostly groomed trails.. I like to carve .. I am not good at bumps and dont ski them much.. Got Fishcer Rx8s recently.. I currently use Salomon Performa 5.0, US size7 boots..

2).. I have to buckle my 3rd and 4th to pretty much max to get them tight around my heel and shin.. Even then I get some heel play when I skate ski.. I think I need low volume boots and preferably something more advanced as I have improved my skiing significantly.. Maybe freeride boots?..I know thats a bit too general, sorry..

3).. I am not sure if my boot allows me to get my weight forward enough.. I have long shins and long legs.. 35" true inseam.. Does that factor into the equation ?

4).. Would I need orthotics for skiing?.. I dont use them when for sports in general but I am prone to shin splint pain if I run/bike too much..

Thanks for your advice..

EDIT:-.. What do you know.. I walked into the loal ski shop and half an hour later walked out with a pir of Dalbello Krypton Cross.. I have not even skiied them but feels like we are a match made in heaven..
post #460 of 543
Jeff,

1. Stats: I am a 6 foot, 165 to 170 lb skier, age 45 and type 8 advanced carver on everything but the steepest of the steeps (double blacks) out West - skied for more than 20 years, mostly on groomed eastern hard pack. Regular club/council and nastar racer. About my foot- shoe size 10.5 med width D, narrow heel though. Skiing on a pair of Dolomite CYB-X Free Carve's in a 10.5, 320 mm fitted with a heal lift under the shell a few hot spots around the toes were popped out when new around the bone just behind the little toe and at the big toe and a custom Amfit foot bed too installed 2 years ago takes up some more volume now. Not sure of the flex I can easily buckle them to the tightest notch on the top 2 buckles due to a narrow leg bone, but the heel pocket is pretty good on this for my foot, but I still get small movement if I flex the boot to the max. Also, I do not want the stiffest race boot out there due to my weight, want to be able to flex the boot.

The Dolomites have worked but are starting to pack out and some cracking of ski boot plastic material right at top of the instep, between buckle 2 and 3. This boot also is probably 6 years old and I have averaged 30 plus ski days per season but still works. I have never been measured for cant or had the plumb line dropped from the knee to the toe but did play with the 3 settings on the Free Carve when new, they are set for the middle/neutral setting. They still are usually warm enough.

2. Based on the above, what do you recommend to give a try for my next pair of boots. Flex rating would not be in the race category, but a high end all mountain boot or where to start?

Thanks for any advise you may have.
post #461 of 543

thanks up front for your great service

I'm buying new boots this weekend. I'm hoping you may have some suggestions or helpful pointers.

MY PROFILE:
49 y.o. female. Black diamond/double black skier, 10 days per year, mostly Whistler. I ski fast "downhill" runs well. Moguls and off-piste challenge me more, but I still enjoy them.
Height/weight: 5'8" 135 lb.
Boot size: mondo 25.
Feet: high arches, high dorsal "bumps" (benign), med width toes, somewhat narrower at heels. Also, I have really skinny ankles and calves.
Skis: K2 Merlin IV about 5 years old. 177cm. I love them, but will probably upgrade within a year or two.
BOOTS I'M REPLACING: Tecnica TNS AVS Womens model, about 10 + years old.

THE PROBLEM: The boots are worn out. If I get them tight enough to keep my feet from sloshing around, my foot falls asleep quickly. If I put them loose enough to be comfortable, my foot can move around way too much. The last straw is that my left foot dorsum (top) has been numb since skiing 3 days last weekend. (I have had medical attention, it will be okay, but I don't want to put that boot on again.)

MY QUESTIONS:
1) I want a fairly aggressive boot, but versatile enough to be comfortable. I'm considering the Salomon Rush 9.0, Nordica Beast 12, and Tecnica Attiva Flame (women's models). Any comments on these?

2) Are there any other boots you think I should be looking at, or anything else I should be thinking about?

3) Can I take the ski-specific "superfeet" insoles from my old boots and use them with the new ones?

THANKS so much for any advice you can give me. If I were in Breckenridge I'd definitely be coming to see you in person.
post #462 of 543

Valgus Knee Deformity

Hi Jeff,

I started a separate post on valgus knee deformity. If you have any experience could you possibly take a look and comment?

Thanks, Si
post #463 of 543
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for taking the time to answer all our questions.

Background: current boot Tecnica Rival X7 (wide/very wide). I am a male skier and i improved my technique since i got the Rival. The boot i am conidering is the Nordica Dobermann Pro 110. I have a relatively narrow foot with a relatively narrow heel, medium forefoot and medium instep. The Rival, as you know, is wide and has a thick liner. The problem is that i will have to order the Dobermann Pro.
I have read that the Pro is medium-narrow especially in the heel and it runs a bit longer.

Questions:

1. I know it is impossible for you to recommend a size for me, but, in your experience, when a customer goes from a wide boot (Rival) to a medium to narrow one (Dobermann Pro), is it better to stay in the same size or get it one size bigger/smaller? What do you do in these cases?

2. Do you think that if i order the Dobermann Pro in one size smaller than the Rival, it can be too tight?

3. IMO, if i go from a wide last to a medium to narrow one, the boot should be tighter and should stay in the same size. What is your opinion?

4. Theoretically, if i get the Dobermann Pro in the same size as the Rival, do you think there is a chance that the Dobie is too big?

Thanks for all your help!

rx-7
post #464 of 543
Hi Jeff.

My Profile: At best guess I am a level 8 skier, 6'1", 205 pounds, working on mogul techinque in particular but skiing the whole mountain. I have a new set of posted footbeds in my Lange RRS 80 boots.

My Problem: I suffered a re-injury of my left ankle at the end of last season, probably due to a type II sprain from two summers prior. As a result, I have a pronounced medial malleolus. The doc has cleared it, and for the most part, the ankle works well.

When skiing, certain days cause the ankle to become irritated at the protruding ankle bone. This irritation is most common when skiing on hard snow/icy/bumpy conditions. No problems in softer snow, non-icy bump runs, moderate cornice drops or on small jumps with good landings.

I can almost always tolerate the discomfort and ski the whole day. The malleolus looks fairly normal at the end of the day (no excessive redness). The irritation subsides quickly and does not affect walking or operating a clutch pedal. No added discomfort skiing multiple days, and no similar discomfort when snowboarding.

My Questions:
(1) Any thoughts on what to do to decrease this irratation?

(2) Your thoughts on experimenting with reducing liner volume around the ankle? I have no reason to suspect this is the problem, especially since my right ankle does not suffer a similar problem. However, gut reaction thinks this might be the result of "ankle bang", if there is such a thing.
post #465 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skidaddyT
Hey Jeff,

Great advice here. I posted this in the other forum, but thought I could get your comments too. Thanks

Hey folks!

Just wanted to get some preliminary info about new boot models to look at for my dad. Great skier, 60 yo 5'10 190, probably an 8-8.5, smooth as silk. Loves the performance from the Tii's, but needs my help to get into them. 20-40 days a year (think those liners are packed), one foot is one full size larger, looking for an all mountain boot that is a little softer. On old Bandit X's (1999 maybe) 191's, but is getting new skis next year.

Thanks for the advice!

Brent
Brent,

Since he has done well with the Tii's, perhaps he should try a modern version of a Lange. The CRL100 might work, and should certainly be easier to put on.

You did not give me enough info to be more specific than that.
post #466 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adviljunky
Jeff,
Stats: 155 lbs, 5'7", 38 years, Level 9+, Off-piste freeskier, low volume foot. 30-40 days/yr at Whistler.
Boots: Solomon X-2 Labs, punched & softened, Conformable footbed, standard XWave 8 liner

Status: The original liner was brutal. I'm getting close to comfort and performance with the XWave8 liner, but I'm ICE COLD, and the boots leak on powder days (from the liner stretching the seal on the shell. I use epoxy and tape which helps the sealing somewhat.

Question #1: Which replacement liner would you recommend? I want something that is soft enough to be comfortable, performance oriented, yet warm. Snowcovers recommends Conformable foam liners.

Adviljunky
I would not expect anything to work much better than what you have already tried.

I suspect the coldness is from having too much liner in the shell, not from leakage. (Basically, the front half of the boot is too tight.) Unfortunately, the only thin but warm liner is a thermoflex type, but they are not known for holding up well to overlap race boots.

Sounds to me like you need a boot (possibly still a full race boot) that has more room in the forefoot and/or instep area. The Salomon X2 is unusually tight here, IMO.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #467 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by c2ski
Hi Jeff,

This is "the king of chicken skiers" again with a follow-up to my original post and your response (copied above) a few months ago (post #44). Here's my background info again:

Background: Male, 27 years old. Height: 6'0" (long legs). Weight 150 lbs (yes, light). Expert (Level 8/9) skier. Typically ski ~25 days/yr, mostly soft snow (west coast), off-piste, steep terrain (i.e. not racing on hardpack). EXTREMELY narrow foot, 11 AAA (especially narrow in forefoot), low arch, chicken legs. Current boots: Salomon Integral Equipe 7.0, size 28.0, circa 1994, with standard superfeet insole in addition to stock insole.

In summary, I am looking for a freeskiing boot to fit a very narrow, low-volume foot. I was recently able to get a pair of Dobermann WC 100 boots in a size 8UK/9US, so I figured I'd give them a try. After trying them on for an hour or so (but not skiing on them), they seem to hold my foot quite well. I'm amazed at how small they look compared to my old salomons!

Questions:

1) I noticed some pain on the outside of my ankle bone - can this area of the shell be ground like the main foot area?

2) As you know, the WC 100 has a lower cuff and liner height - is this likely to be a problem (for freeskiing) for someone like me with long legs?

3) I have to crank down the buckles pretty good for them to feel very tight. As you mentioned in your previous response, I may want to get a different (thicker) liner. If the low cuff height isn't a problem, what do you think about trying the liner from the Dobermann Team 70 Junior boot?

Thanks very much!
All hail Our lordship, His Majesty the King of the Chickens,

1. Yes, it is not difficult and can greatly help.
2. It is not ideal, but perhaps you could work a trade. Basically, keep the narrower lower shell of the WC, and replace the liner and upper shell with something like the Pro 110 or Hot Rod. Hey, it could happen.
3. Yes, chickenman, you will have to buckle the top buckles tight. Replacing the thin stock liner with a thicker one should fix this.


Perhaps if you send me a little more info, I could use this to evaluate it to next years boots. Here is what I would like to know.

Do you have a high instep?
Do you prefer a boot with a lot of forward lean, or more upright?
What is your favorite boot color? Oops, bad question...

Talk to you again, Our Lordship,
Jeff
post #468 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vlad
jeff- what do you know about the phil mahre gold-winning skiis being volkls with K2 topsheets?
Nothing- what do you know about it?

The only rumor I heard about their racing days is they often preferred skis that could only be laid out by hand, which were impossible at the time to make for widescale production. I trust these sources, but have never confirmed these rumors myself....

PS- I used to race on Atomics with Olive Garden graphics. I hear they are a restaurant chain now.... Just kidding....
post #469 of 543
Stats: 155 lbs, 5'7", male, level 8ish skier. I have slightly less than medium foot width with a narrow heel and an outstep protrusion (see issue 2) and low calves. I Like steeps, powder, chutes, and trees and fast groomers too. I tend to ski medium-stiff skis (Volkl Mantra and Volant Machete Sin). I use a Rossi Carve ZX boot from 2001-2002 season (I got them as a leftover in fall 2002).

Issues

1. When I got the boots the fit was good (I could hardly breathe, but there weren't any pressure points, or hot spots while walking around for 20 minutes). At the beginning of the season they fit plenty tight. Now though, my heel lifts quite a bit in crud, and that's with the top buckles on the 5th hook (out of 6). I can hardly buckle them at that hook.

2. I got footbeds to relieve a couple problems: a) balls of feet going numb on flatter terrain and b) the bone on the outside of my foot, halfway between my little toe and my heel sticks out some (not sure if that's abnormal); that spot really bothers me when I have to steer (bumps, trees, etc) and when I'm on traverses. I had the footbeds worked 3 times and that helped a lot. Enough that I didn't need to go back a 4th time, but 2 years later, things seem to be worse (but not as bad as before the footbeds). Mostly it's an issue with the outstep area.


Questions

-Ideas on my issues (why and what to do)?
-Would you start from scratch or go back to where I got the footbeds done first?

Thanks a bunch. Your help is greatly appreciated.
post #470 of 543

Differences in 2003-2005 atomics?

Hey Jeff,

My Info:
Im female, 135lbs, 5'8", 22 yrs old, and an aggressive, expert level skier (level 8/9). I raced for a few years, am on the US National Ski Patrol, and am currently instructing part-time. I can ski everything, but prefer off-piste steeps, powder, trees, etc, and bombing the pistes (if the snow off-piste is no good). Bumps and terrain parks do very little for me. I wear size 24 boots, but have very short toes and wider fore-foot (so my feet are like wedges).

What Im looking for:
My dearly beloved 2003 Atomic R:9 boots recently melted in a fire, much to my dismay. With my wide foot, I expecially liked those boots' wider toebox. Im currently looking for replacements, but as a student/ski bum my budget is limited. Instead of buying the latest, more expensive, boots, Ive been looking at past models of atomic boots, which are considerably cheaper. Unfortunately, information on older models seems to have been purged from the internet. Since I liked my R:9s so much, Im looking mostly at similar models, but am willing to try something else if it might be better. Id be especially interested in good womens boots, but as an aggressive expert skier I find that most such boots arent quite up to par.

My Questions:
1) How do Atomics other Ride-series boots from 2003-2005 compare to my R:9s in terms of fit - ie, does the fit of the Ride line (wider toebox, etc) change at all between boots and/or years?
2) How does the flex index change between R:9s, R:10s and R:11s over those years?
3) If you can find out, what were the flex indices of my old 2003 R:9s (the flex index printed on the side of the boots melted beyond recognition)?
4) Ive found a 'womens R:11' on ebay, but I wasnt aware atomic ever made womens boots in the ride series. Is the seller honest (they look exactly the same as the mens version)?
5) If the womens R:11s do exist, whats their flex index, what year(s) did they make them, and how do they compare to the mens versions?
6) Are there any other womens Ride-series boots?
7) Do you have any general advice/suggestions concerning Atomic boots for me?
8) If you know of anywhere online that I might be able to find some of this information let me know - Im more than willing to do my own research, I just havent been able to find anything yet (and Im living in Bulgaria for the season, so online info is my only resource for the next few months).
9) Finally, are there any other boots (from different companies) that I should check out?

I know this is a lot to address, but any help at all would be greatly appreciated! Thanks very much!
post #471 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeemm
I am 17. I can classify myself as Expert (started when i was 4) size 28 and 1.80 m. This year I have started racing and gotta change my boots (my feet grow). I used to have Lange F7 and now I have bought CRL70 ( I was thinking that they will be great) but I really hate them because they dont let my legs to curve, so I am just standing there and also they are so high and heavy. Right now I am thinking of Nordica Doberman 110 or Rossignol Elite Exp 1 ...... I am also open to any other suggestions. ***One last thing CRL70 doesnt also have any tuning oppurtunity so I hate it one more time...

Pls and Pls try to reply me asap cauz I have gotta buy my new boots soon to get ready for my next race...
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post #472 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hearts_ease
Dear Jeff,

I am a 38-year old woman -- hadn't skiied in 20 years due to a non-skiing
hubby and living overseas. We're back in the States for good and I FINALLY got him to take a vacation in Beaver Creek w/a daily
private lesson. He loved it -- can't wait to go back! I'm an
intermediate skiier, probably now just a 5-6, and hoping to quickly improve back to a 7-8. I'm 5'3", 120 lbs, bigtime pronator w/little to no arch at all, size 9B. Big calves since I bike, but skinny ankles and generally a very small frame.

I rented Atomic boots while out in BC and they sucked. My heels kept
sliding up in the back and I had MAJOR (and very painful) shin bang. -- On the plus side, my toes had plenty of wiggle room and stayed toasty warm.

#1. SO -- I am thinking I should just take the plunge an purchase a pair of
boots. Should I go to Surefoot in NYC which is near where I live, or wait till I'm back out West?

#2. Any advice you can offer on brands, models and proper footbeds would be most welcome since it's been about 24 years since I bought ski boots!

Thanks so much.
1. I recommend getting your boots where you will be skiing, preferably for a week vacation. This way you have time to fix any problems that show up. As an owner of a mountain shop, I probably am a bit biased.
2. I recommend you put some work into finding the best shop to wherever you are going on vacation.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #473 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sywsyw
Jeff,

A friend of mine needs your help.
Background: female, intermediate. She ordered the Dobermann Pro 100 to hold her relatively narrow foot. The stance is good for her, too. She ordered the boot one size smaller than her current tecnicas. The problem is that she does not have access to a good bootfitter. The 100 could be a little tight. She is thinking of ordering the Dobermann 150 lace up liner if the Pro with the stock liner is too tight. She wants to know a couple of things before she orders the lace up liner.

Questions:

1. The Pro liner is obviously better padded than the 150 lace up version. What is wants to know is where exactly is the Pro better padded?
2. Is the Pro significantly thicker than the 150?

Thanks.
Jamie
Jamie,
1. Forefoot and heel/ankle areas.
2. Yes.
post #474 of 543
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RiDeC58
Jeff, thanks in advance.

Background: 175lb aggressive level 8/9--improving
Ski: 30 days per year. Prefer steep and flat, but now trying to get into bumps.

My Feet: Size 10 1/2 EEEE street shoe. Foot wide and FLAT as the Mississippi. Though wide, it is not a "High Volume" foot. I have a very low/arch and instep but very flexible non-rigid foot. I also have an unusual amount of dorsiflexion. I can flex from standing to 60 deg or more without my heel lifting. People say "wow can you touch your shins to your feet?"

Current Boot: Technica Rival RX with yellow stiffeners in (stiffest one) and both screws into the flex adjusters to further stiffen boot. I use an Intuition Liner for the custom fit but also for help with some painful bumps/spurs etc.

This boot has been "OK", but is too high volume vertically for my flat instep. I had to have the forefoot expended. This has been fine. The boot just doesn't "cradle" ny foot the way I feel it should.

Questions:

1) I have tried on a pair of Atomic B11. The "WideBody" shape seems quite well suited to my foot. I have much better vertical fit over the instep than with the Technica. I will still need to have the 6th toe punched a bit, but I have no problem with that. In fact, it seems like this boot will fit with much less modification than it took to get the Technicas skiable. My concern is that this boot strikes my as VERY SOFT in the store, much softer than my stiffened RX. Should this boot be laterally stiff enough. It seems like a noodle to me. The Atomic flex rating places it on par with the T/M-10 not with the T/M-11. I am concerned that I may be going backward in terms of performance.

2) If this boot is too soft, what other boots might you reccomend for my wide, flat forefoot. Oh yes, I also have very low reaching muscular calves, so I do better in boots with less forward lean (built in muscular spoiler) and wide cuffs.

Thanks,
RD
RD,

1. IMO, the B11 is likely to be the best possible boot for you. IMO, the flex pattern should be reasonable for you, but perhaps there are more issues (such as excessive forward lean) that have not been mentioned. You could have the boots riveted to make them stiffer.
2. I cannot think of anything I expect would work better.

Good luck,
Jeff Bergeron
Boot Fixation
post #475 of 543
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Originally Posted by deliberate1
Background: 49 yo, skiing for all but 9 of those. East coast. Level: 8-9. Confident on steep, less so in bumps, but still ski all over mountain. 165lbs and 5'9. Ski appx 15 times per year. Expect to ski more if we get any snow.
Skiis: 168cm Elan 666's.
Boots: Used XT 17's I just got. Skied them for first time, four out of five days last week. Fantastic upgrade from my Alu Icons. Responsive, powerful and very comfortable - even without any shell work. Excellent shell fit - one tight finger behind heel. Toes just brush shell. Liners are packed out, or just are not formed to my feet. Some heel lift. No lateral movement, but not the blood pressure cuff sensation of the XT's I tried with the new stock liner. Toes in liner/boot pretty good - large toe just pressures shell when upright and less so when flexed. Use Chilly's low volume sock and three strand Booster Strap. Green Superfeet footbed.

Problem: After two days, developed sore shins - anterior tibia. After four days, open sores and bruising on L greater than R. On R, sore slightly to right of tibia crest, appx 3/4" long and 1/3" wide. Begins appx 3/4" below top of tongue. On L, sore same size, but slightly off to left of crest. And some scattered lesions within three inch diameter. On L, some swelling in shin contacting left half of tongue. Tried Moleskin - ineffective. Tried loosening top buckle and tightening Booster - ineffective or just too late.

1. Suggestions to address this problem?

2. Does the offcentered location of the lesions suggest alignment issue (rather gruesome test)?

3. Suggestions for replacement liner?
Considered Zips, but too far from dealer to get shop fit. Considered buying another pair of XT's for cheap to get new stock liner, but would have same packing issue. Dobie lace-up liner highly recommended by others is first on list, though actually costs more than new pair of boots. Heard that the lace up neoprene toe box is better than stock. This is important for me because I had issues with the stock toe box. True? Is tongue configuration better for my boney shins?

4. Suggestions for shell mods: Would softening/cuff adjust help, or is it more a matter of a better tongue/shin fit and less abrasive clothing? I find the progressive flex commanding, but find myself pushing less as the pain increases. Big problem. Technique definitely suffered. I could stand to have these a bit softer, especially towards the end of the day.

I plan to make the trip to Green Mountain within the next two weeks and would like to go with some suggestions.
Jeff, I only have $75 into these boots. But in the three good days I had in them, my technique went from old school to new school. I never skied with more confidence or control. I hate to give these up without a fight. By the way, I also had the same problem with the Icon Alu's the XT's replaced. But they are a far less impressive boot and did not merit resussitation. Many thanks for all your kind assistance.
David
David,
1. Just a guess, but it sounds like the liners are wearing out. Some common issues are....
a. lateral cuff misalignment (likely)
b. boots are too stiff (less likely)
c. long underwear in boot instead of folded above the boot (surprisingly common).
d. need to shave your shins (less likely)
e. too much friction- spray with silicon spray (might help)
f. replace the power strap with a Booster (works very well, and may redistribute the pressure)
g. this is tiring me out.....

What size are these. I have a pair of brand new liners in size 26 you could buy. Let me know if this is your size and you want them.

2. Yes, the stock setup has the cuffs pushed quite far to the outside.
3. IMO, Zipfits are fairly thick (including the plug model). Stock liners or race liners should be better. Another option might be to replace the tongue, though it may be impossible to find a replacement.
4. Sure, soften them, but your lateral alignment may be an even bigger problem.

Jeff
post #476 of 543
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Originally Posted by JZM
Hi Jeff ,

Info : 6'4'' 300 pound male , Intermediate / aggresive skier
foot = 280 mm long ( size 12 shoe )
= 115 mm wide
= 76 mm heel
thick ankles , very thick calves , high instep

Do to my size and large foot I can really flex/ stress the boot so what top 3 boots do you recomend that I try ?

Thanks jeff M
Jeff M,

You might want try the Nordica Beast 14, Nordica Easy Move, Salomon Performa (high volume but quite soft), Salomon 1080 (same, high volume but quite soft), Salomon XWave 9 or 10.

Next year's Nordica Gran Sport might be worth checking out.

Most likely, the key to success is to make a good choice and work with a shop that can do modifications to the boot.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #477 of 543
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Originally Posted by Docjoque
Hi Jeff. Thanks in advance for the help.

Background: I'm 43, 6'1", 185. Expert skier, ex racer, workout/train every day. Still in very good shape. Ski very aggressively, bumps are my preference, if not, then I go off piste. Love the BC too.

A ski rack mishap last season forced me to re-stock my quiver. I demoed a bunch of stuff, and decided on Volkl superspeeds, 6 stars, and 724 exps. Couldn't decided, and I loved them all.

I got new boots this season as well. I have a funky foot, so when I get my boots tweaked the way I like them, I usually keep them for years. My last pair was Nordica Grand Prix R, and I had them for probably 10 years. This year, I got Tecnica Diablo Flames. They seemed pretty flexible to me, but the salesman assured me that boots are much more flexible these days, and it was a high performance boot. They felt like Ugg boots....extremely comfortable right out of the box. Researched them on the net, and they seemed like they would be a good match, especially since I'm not racing anymore. I was mostly interested in comfort.

I got out on the slopes, and they just didn't perform as well as my previous boots, but I'm not sure if that because of the boots, or because of the new skis, or both. I've been skiing on them the enitre season, so I really don't notice anymore. They are about 100x more comfortable though. I was hoping to increase the performance level a bit, and I have Sure Foot orthotics, which seemed to help a bit. What else can I do?

1. I've been thinking about getting Boosters. Have heard some great things about them. which ones should I get. I was researching the advanced/expert ones, but now they have a WC Booster. Any good, or not?

2. How about Foot Leveler skithotics. Are you familiar with those at all? I can get them from my doctor's office. They are a casted orthotic specially designed for ski boots.

3. Any suggestion for upping the performance level a bit would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Doc,

1. Booster work very well. IMO, the Race/Expert (three layers of elastic) should work well for you.
2. IMO, it will depend on what you need. If just a bit of support, could be ok. If your alignment is more complex, maybe not.
3. You may be having issues with the increased forward lean in these boots. Not easy to fix- is often expensive IF you can find someone who can.

Good luck,
Jeff
post #478 of 543
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Originally Posted by Nic fc
I am 25 5'10" 170lbs A/B width foot & I cannot find a boot to keep my heel down. I am a very aggressive 9/10 skier for over 15 years. I ski mostly steeps, glades & bumps but I also love to go very fast on the groomers (as I live in the east, grew up at Jay Peak VT) Now I mostly like to go out to Jackson & Snowbird. I have not been able to find anyone that says the same thing now. I have gone to over 10 different shops. Some say to stay stiff, some say to go soft. I was skiing an old pair of Lang 120's. I recently bought a pair of Tecnica Pro 130's this year but they were improperly fitted to large and I had to get rid of them. I have been told that I should get a softer boot so I have been looking at the Salomon Pro Gun model but I am not sure that I will like the softer flex. I have also been told to stay with a stiff boot and that no matter what stiffer is better, even if your freeriding or in the bumps. I am not to picky on comfort, I just want my foot to stay put.



1) What flex do you recommend, Is a stiffer boot always better (assuming you are good enough to control it)

2) Is the Salomon Gun a good fit for me (I hate gimmicks and I feel the hexagonal holes are just that)

3) Should I buy a properly fitted Tecnica Pro 130

4) Is there a better boot for me? Should I wait for next years models?



Thanks,



Nick
Arial,

Hard to read your post on the response page. Not sure if I will find all your questions.

Flex- go medium, soft enough to have a good range of motion, stiff enough so they go upright again once you stop flexing them. IMO.

Salomon Gun- An excellent boot, but IMO not likely to be narrow enough for you. Next year's Salomon Falcon could be much better.

Tecnica Diablo Pro 130- not likely to be narrow enough for you. VERY different stance (more forward lean) than the Salomon Gun.

Better Boot?- Very dependent on stance (and you did not cover those issues), but for fit I recommend you try the Atomic Race Tech TI Soft (130) or XSoft (100) or possibly the Dolomite Z series. The Atomic will not be narrow enough in the forefoot, but the heel hold is the best of any boot. IMO, heel/ankle hold is the most import fit area in a boot.

Good luck
post #479 of 543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alu
Hi Jeff,

Background: male skier looking for a race boot. I have two boots on my list: the Atomic RT Ti (2007) and Nordica Dobermann WC 150 (2007). I have a narrow foot with a medium to low instep. I want a boot with a more upright stance (the Dobermann) but i was told that it has a higher instep than the Atomic RT Ti. I want to use it only for freeskiing.

Questions:

1. In terms of fit, how does the Atomic RT Ti compare to the Dobermann WC 150?

2. In your opinion, which boot is a better choice for freeskiing?

3. If the stance of the Dobermann is better for me (i really want to be more upright), do you think i should go with the WC 150 (even if it has a slightly higher instep than the Atomic)?

4. Is the Dobermann visibly more upright than the Atomic? If it is just a bit more upright then i would choose the Atomic.

5. What would you do if you were in my place? Would you choose the stance or the instep?

Thanks in advance!
1. Again? Atomic- Great in flex, heel/ankle hold; roomier in forefoot. Best skiing boot in the world, IF it works for you. As always, IMO. Nordica- relatively narrow fit throughout, good response; flex pattern is adequate, stance is more upright.
2. Both are good freesking boots for skiers with narrow feet.
3. Only you can decide this (especially since this is not in person).
4. The difference is visible. Still, you have to try them on to feel the difference.
5. If I were you? (and had access to good boot fitting) I would go with the Atomic and change the forward lean (not easy). This is no guarantee that you should go this way.
post #480 of 543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by race
Jeff,

Background: male, 150lbs, with an average foot. I have a medium forefoot, relatively narrow ankle/heel and medium instep. I am looking at the Rossignol Radical Carbon and semi-plug boot. The Radical is the old Elite series (but the boot is orange).


1. Could you compare the Rossignol Radical Carbon/Elite Carbon to the semi-plug in terms of fit?

2. Could you compare the Radical Carbon to the Tecnica Icon Alu Comp in terms of fit?

3. You stated in a post that the Rossi is heavy and too roomy. What does make it heavy? Does it move like an SUV?

4. How different is the Radical Carbon than the Elite? Only different graphics?

5. How does the semi-plug compare to the Radical Carbon in terms of fit?

6. How does the semi-plug compare to the R2005 in terms of fit?

7. Do the Radical Carbon and the semi-plug have high insteps? How do they compare to the full plug? The R2005 has a very high instep (IMO)

Thanks in advance!
race,

IMO, I think you should only consider the semi-plug boot. The instep is high.

Just my opinion.
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