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post #331 of 543

Are Nordica Ski Boots renowned for letting in snow?!?

I bought some Nordica ski boots new in Apr 2003 and have used them for about 3 weeks in the years since. My feet have always been cold in them and I thought that was just my feet. However, in Chamonix this New Year I was virtually unable to ski because my feet were so painfully cold and I realised that they are letting in snow! Which then melts if I go into a cafe (which is necessary to warm my feet before my toes drop off), and then there's no hope with wet feet - the inners certainly aren't waterproof.

It seems to be coming in right at the front and possibly up the sides. If I tighten the boots it happens less, but then they're just extremely uncomfortable and cut off the blood supply making my feet cold anyway.

Clearly they shouldn't let snow in on any setting, but since they're almost 3 years old, I'd be curious to discover if there is a known problem with any Nordica boots before I take the matter to Nordica. Also, are inners supposed to be waterproof in case snow does get in? I can't take them back to the shop because it's the other side of the world.

Thanks everso much to anyone who can help or point me in the right direction.

Dawn Sellars
post #332 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by viking kaj
My ten year old Rossi racing boots have a buckle that is starting to go, so it seems I may finally have to break down and buy a new pair of boots.

I'm 6'3" (187cm) 220 lbs (100kg) and have been skiing for 43 of my 46 years. 25 years ago I did some racing and instructing, but it's pretty much just freeskiing these days. I try to do 25 days a year, mostly in the West, on everything from groomers to bumps to back country. My skis range from 193 Atomic GS:11 racing stock (which I ski very fast, 40mph plus) to short twin tips for back country powder, couloirs, tree skiing, etc. My feet are different sizes, one is an 11.5 d, with the other closer to a 12. I've pretty much been on Lange's or Rossi's for 30 years. They seem to fit my foot well and I like the way they work. I am also happy with something less than a plug boot, usually the top detuned racing model works well for me. I'm past the age where I like to unbuckle for the lift and rebuckle before every run.

1) So the boots I have been looking at are the Lange Comp 120 MF and the Rossi Race. To me, there does not seem to be a lot of difference between the two, at least in the shop. Is this right?

2) Also, given my different size feet should I be looking at a 29.5 or a 30 (i'm leaning towards the 29.5)?

3) I also notice that Lange makes an FR version of the 120. Is this anything to look into?

4) Finally is there anything else given my preferences that I should be looking at?

Looking forward to your feedback.

Kaj
Forgot to add that I have relatively flat feet/low arches.
post #333 of 543
Hi Jeff,
thanks for all the imput.
I have skinny calves and ski in Lange Comp 120 w Superfet insoles. They fit my foot well after minimal grinding over the right big toe.
I have been thinking about moving the upper buckles in the second set of factory drilled holes:
1- Is this going to stiffen the boot or change the forward lean?
2- is this better than tightening the buckles?
3- Will Booster straps improve fit over the calves without moving the buckles?
4- Do you reccomend Booster straps, generally?
thanks for you time
post #334 of 543
Hi Jeff,

I posted this in another forum and one of the forum members thought I should ask you this question:

I went skiing last weekend for the first time in about 8 years.....just like riding a bike! I had a huge issue with my boots. I used my equipment that I had 8 years ago...the boots felt fine at home but as soon as I got on the slopes they were rubbing extremely hard on my ankles. I actually had black and blue marks on my ankles from a full day of skiing. I chalked it up to the boots losing the contour of my foot but I am trying to figure out how to get the boots to fit comfortably again. The boots fit fine beside the ankle issue.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for the help!
post #335 of 543

Snow in boots

Quote:
Originally Posted by dawnsellars
I bought some Nordica ski boots new in Apr 2003 and have used them for about 3 weeks in the years since. My feet have always been cold in them and I thought that was just my feet. However, in Chamonix this New Year I was virtually unable to ski because my feet were so painfully cold and I realised that they are letting in snow! Which then melts if I go into a cafe (which is necessary to warm my feet before my toes drop off), and then there's no hope with wet feet - the inners certainly aren't waterproof.

It seems to be coming in right at the front and possibly up the sides. If I tighten the boots it happens less, but then they're just extremely uncomfortable and cut off the blood supply making my feet cold anyway.

Clearly they shouldn't let snow in on any setting, but since they're almost 3 years old, I'd be curious to discover if there is a known problem with any Nordica boots before I take the matter to Nordica. Also, are inners supposed to be waterproof in case snow does get in? I can't take them back to the shop because it's the other side of the world.

Thanks everso much to anyone who can help or point me in the right direction.

Dawn Sellars
Dawn, this may sound like a trivial answer but try buckling the bottom two buckles of your boots a little tighter. The other thing you can try is putting some duct tape over the spot where the boots close near the toe. Snow in through the toe dam was a notorious problem in older Lange boots and you would see lots of Langes with tape on the front of the boot.
post #336 of 543

some boots for me...

hey jeff,

Background: I have been skiing for 2 yrs. now, and went ~10 times last year, this year I have seaosn passes here in Wisconsin to Sunburst Ski Area and have went 10 times already! I am absoulty obsessed with skiing now and amd getting into every aspect of it. So i bought some Tecnica Entryx 7's last year and they have served me well. I noticed this year and towards the end of last season that my left ankle hurt, on the outside, not surface but internal, right by the bone, like the muscle or tendon. I thought it might be my technique but after asking an instructor, they said everything looked great as far as form went, AMAZING since i pretty much taught myself! So he suggested new boots since i guess mine were really more for a beginner and he considered me an upper intermediate already!

Well i was very greatfull for his advice and very happy to be consider somethign other than a beginner, so i went out and bought some Salomon Scream Pilot Xtra hot's. I wanted an all mountin ski. I ski mostly here in the midwest, but i want a nice ski for anything as i really like skiing powder if its avail. and will be traveling to Fernie, BC over spring break(CANT WAIT).

With these new stiff skis, both my ankles are hurting, the same for the left, and the right just the same on the outside. So im looking for boots now.

I am just under 6foot and ski 175cm skis. I weight ~170 and ski as agressive as my abilities allow. I ski mostly groomed as that is all that is avail. but would like to learn moguls and trees, and love powder when available. I consider my feet to be narrow but the tecnicas i have tried seem to be for wide feet?

Question 1: I have been looking at Tecnica Vento 10's, Tecnica Rival X8's, and Nordica Beast 10's. What are some boots that will give me the support i need but will offer good perfformance and still be confortable?

Question 2: Im trying to do this on a budget, which will be hard...would you advise buying a pair of boots i have tried on local from ebay?

Question 3: Is it true, if the boots fit really confortable in the ski shop, they will be to big on the slopes in a few weeks?

Question 4: What can i do to get my ankles to stop hurting?

Question 5: What boot will be confortable and angile enough to allow recreational skiing but also stiff enough to allow me to be really aggressive down the realy steep runs and through moguls and trees?

Question 6: Of the boots i mentioned above, and any that you have added, which would you ultimatly go with and why?
post #337 of 543

I need HELP

Good Eveneing Jeff,

I hope you can help. I am 37yo, 6'-3", 260 lbs, with a size 13 foot (I believe that it is actually a 12.5 long and 14 wide), and ski predominantly at Alta, Utah, and try to stay off trail (powder), snow permitting. I have been skiing the same equipment since 1991, until two years ago when I upgraded my skis. I still use my 1990 model year Tecnica TNS, black with green. I am looking to upgrade, and was considering the Tecnica Diablo Magnesium, or maybe the Vento 10. I have not tried anything on yet. I have hit a snag though. Nobody locally has the Diablo Mag in a 30.5 or 31.o in the HotForm liner, and not many have the Hiperfit. Do you have any suggestions for other options? I have considered getting a custom fit as well.

Any help would be appreciated.

"B"
post #338 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawnsellars
I bought some Nordica ski boots new in Apr 2003 and have used them for about 3 weeks in the years since. My feet have always been cold in them and I thought that was just my feet. However, in Chamonix this New Year I was virtually unable to ski because my feet were so painfully cold and I realised that they are letting in snow! Which then melts if I go into a cafe (which is necessary to warm my feet before my toes drop off), and then there's no hope with wet feet - the inners certainly aren't waterproof.

It seems to be coming in right at the front and possibly up the sides. If I tighten the boots it happens less, but then they're just extremely uncomfortable and cut off the blood supply making my feet cold anyway.

Clearly they shouldn't let snow in on any setting, but since they're almost 3 years old, I'd be curious to discover if there is a known problem with any Nordica boots before I take the matter to Nordica. Also, are inners supposed to be waterproof in case snow does get in? I can't take them back to the shop because it's the other side of the world.

Thanks everso much to anyone who can help or point me in the right direction.

Dawn Sellars
Hey, Dawn!

I don't have this problem too much myself, but you might want to look into the bootglove. It's a neoprene sleeve that fits over the front of your boot. It looks a little cheeseball, but it keeps toes warm, and has the added benefit of keeping snow out. I used to duct-tape my boots sometimes on powder days, but now I just slide the bootglove on and I don't have to worry about tape adhesive residue or anything, and no snow gets in. I also use it on cold days to keep the heat in my boots during the first few lift ride. Check it out at www.bootglove.com.

Mollie
post #339 of 543
Jeff,

I have taken way too long to thank you for your kind response. I have been looking for the Dobermans, but I don't think it's going to happen anywhere near Nelson. I was skiing with a CSIA 4 clinician last weekend, and he also suggested I might like Dobermans.

I drove to Kelowna several weeks ago, where the salesperson said they didn't sell Dobies because they're too stiff and nobody would buy them. I'm heading south to Winter Park next week. I suspect they'll be available there. I'm coming into Colorado on Highway 40 because it's much shorter for me. If I was coming in on I-70, I'd stop at Breck for a visit, but I don't think I'll get the chance.

Ah, well. Life in the boonies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
1. You mentioned you prefer boots that are more upright, but Lange's (except for the new plug boot) generally have more forward lean than Tecnica. (Although the Lange's are flatter in ramp angle.)
Absolutely correct, of course, which is why I have tongue blocks and a top buckle ladder that I've moved over. I also do up the strap inside the shell. All this helps the shaft at least seem a little more upright.

Anyway thank you, and I'll keep looking!

John Cooley
post #340 of 543
Hello Jeff,

I am 20 years old, my height is 186cm and my weight is 67kg. I am an experienced skier on all terrains and under all conditions. At the moment I own a pair of nearly worn out Tecnica TNT Icon X which are now 6 years old. My other skiing hardware are Rossignol T-Power 9S (167cm long), Salomon Teneighty (181cm long) and different big mountain skis like the Salomon Pocket Rocket. I would say that I ride 40% of time on piste, 40% in the park and 20% in the backcountry. Since 11 years I wear orthopedic soles in my normal shoes, not in my skiing boots, because my feet bend to the inside of my legs. Due to some weight loss caused by endurance sport my feet also seem to have lost a bit of their volume. I should also mention that me left foot is three fourths of number bigger than the right one and has a slightly bigger volume.
My current boots are at least half a number to big I would say. My toes touch the front end of the boot only slightly when I try to stand straight in the boots.
In the not well sorted shops here I tried the Salomon X Wave 8 (27.0) and Atomic B9 (I think) just to get feel for their fit. Both have way to much volume for my feet. I also tried Head S8 and Nordica Speedmachine 8 which fit much better. My financial possibilities are a bit limited and because of that I don't want to buy a boot with a custom foamed liner. But I am searching for boot with glove like (narrow and snug) fit which can handle all the different terrains I am skiing in. So here are my questions:

1. Which boots would you recommened for me? I saw the Tecnica Diablo Race Pro 90 in shop but had not the time to try them on. I search for a boot which is stiff enough to have a good control while carving on piste but is also soft enough to jump around with.

2. Can I use plug boots for my application area or would you say I should use something else?

3. I have always the problem that my feet get cold when they are not in action. I hope you know what I mean. Are these Thermic soles from Comformable a solution for my problem and can they be used in plug boots?

Thats all for the moment. Thanks in advance for the answers and sorry for my english
post #341 of 543

Help with Technica XR

Hi Jeff,

I'm 5'11" 215 lbs, fairly athletic and have been skiing for about 10 years. I am an aggressive upper intermediate, low expert skier and prefer to ski off-trail. I ski Atomic R:EXs and Atomic Stomps. My boots are Technica ICON XR Ultra-fits with Sole semi-custom footbeds. I have relatively thin ankles compared to my calves, a wide foot, a bit of an arch, and a high bridge. My problem is heel lift and too much space (hence movement) in the top of the boot, resulting in a lack of control transerring to the ski. I can eliminate this by cranking down on the buckles but then I suffer from massive pain in the arches of my feet and calves because now the boot is binding too tight. My questions then are:

1. Is a good fit possible with the boots that I have and if so, any recommendations?

2. If new boot is a better option, can you recommend a boot that would best suit my needs?

Thanks for your help!!!
-Javier
post #342 of 543
Jeff;
Many thanks for your good advice here. I think I speak for everyone.
male, 40yrs old, 5'10''. 190 lbs. Level 8+ skier. Started very young , snowboarded for a few years thru 1990's. back at skiing as we tend now to only ski 1 week per year out west.
Last went to Deer Valley and rented all, skiis were great, boots so-so, kinda hurt my shins after a good hard day.
Am coming to Jackson Hole in a month and will be renting. Struggling whether I should be investing in a really good pair of boots, that are specifically for me.
I have a very high instep and have troubling fitting many shoes so Im not sure whether most rental boots will be that satisfying.
Any suggestions on make model ?
thx so much in advance
post #343 of 543

fix knock knees?

Jeff-

36 years old
5' 11'' 185
Level III+
Boots: Strohlz with custom footbeds

I moved from a Nordica GP to Stohlz this year and seems like I show more knocked knee in my skiing then year past. I feel very little effect to the ski and have got feedback that the ski's are not showing negetive effect but the look is damaged by the knees tracking towards each other. The cuffs do not move. My footbed is slightly posted on the inside to move my knee out. I don't want to do cant strips under the bindings as I have 6 pair of skis and give them out to demo often.

I want to look into grinding the boots but just looking for more info on a correct fix. My lower leg has curvature that I think causes the look more then the foot.

Any comments or thoughts on this are appreciated. Thanks
post #344 of 543
Hi Jeff,

BACKGROUND:
height= 175 cm or 5 feet 9 inches
weight= 154 lbs.
Thin complexion.
Foot size: right is almost 25, I would say 24 and 4/5th, left is slightly smaller, something like 24 and 3/4th. I measured foot size in shop ruler. I have wide feet compared to the length.
Ski level is high intermediate.
Ski preferences: Medium pace, relaxed not too aggresive.

INFO: As you can see from my feet size, my problem is that I'm between sizes, closer to 25 though. I have difficulty to find boots that fit right in length and width. I just bought a pair of Rossignol Intense 1, size 25.5. That was the smallest size they had on that boot. The right foot seems to fit right but the left one (the shorter one) feels a little short, I can barely touch the front of the boot when standing. I tried size 24.5 in different boots (some advanced tecnica's) but they were too narrow and hurt in the curvature where shin and foot join and/or along the top part of the feet. They didn't have a size 25 on any boot for me to try. They told me that the only difference between size 25 and 25.5 was really the insole (same shell) and adviced me to buy a new one.

QUESTIONS:
1. Is that really the only different between a size 25 and 25.5?
2. What can I do to make the fit a little tighter on my left frontfoot or just the whole foot (since it feels a bit too roomy in my toes)? an insole? if so, what should I look for?
3. Should I return the boots otherwise and try to find a 25 somewhere else? or keep looking for 24.5 that don't hurt?
4. What's your opinion on this boots?

Thanks in advance.
- Jose -
post #345 of 543
hi jeff.

background:

i have the pictured bone spur on my heels. much more on the left than on the right foot. right foot is generally OK, left spur swells once in a while when pressured. not always painful. this spur leaves holes in the padding of my sneakers. obviously the ski boot shell is more durable than that and provides some firece opposition...

boots fit extremely well otherwise and i have conformables in them. the spur issue arises in any boot or shoe with a hard shell.



so my question:

1. is it possible to grind out some material from the boot shell? boots are technica race pro. will this affect heel hold?

2. other possible remedies?


thanks in advance. one may excuse my double posting.
post #346 of 543
Hi Jeff

This is a fantastic resource so hope you can help – wish I lived closer.

BACKGROUND
age 50, 5’6” (168cm), 148llbs, boot size 25.5MP, ability level 8 on a euro scale of 1-10 (just turning advanced – expert). Ski mostly in France on a seasonal pass.

Boots are 2003 model Tecnica ICON Ultrafit DPs. Overall fit good. Overpronate right ankle slightly, left quite a lot (so pressure and pain on left medial malleolus). Boots originally fitted with custom footbed, new much more supportive orthotics 6 weeks ago.

PROBLEM
Thighs burn, stance looks and feels squatty, tails slide and comments about back seat driving. After reading and experimenting with plumb bobs etc penny dropped that I have too much forward lean (despite adjustable forward lean on boots set max upright). Reason may be because I have relatively short femur so when I squat down head and shoulders move much further forward than arse backwards and CofG moves too far forward, so have to lean back to compensate. However it feels wrong even when standing. Softish flex of boots may exacerbate the problem.

Boot fitters round here look at me as weirdo when I suggest this is the problem with comments like “All boots have same forward lean of 14degrees” so I will have to resort to DIY.

My temporary solution last week was 6 thin trail maps between tongue and shell and this worked well – surprisingly so much better for what looks like small change.

Questions:
1. what do I use instead of trail maps?
2. I am picking up suggestions that Tecnica boots have high ramp angle. Would it be better to lower the bootboard instead? I have plenty of flex in my ankles.
3. anything else I should look at?

Many thanks
Norman
post #347 of 543
Jeff-

It looks like I'm not going to get my Diablos back.

Anyway, I need to find some boots for March.

I weigh about 198, am 6'2", and race (not this year, but w/e). Skill level is 9, I like to go very fast on hard snow and race. I have a left foot that measures an 11.5, and a right foot that is between a 12 and a 12.5. Both are mid-C width. I have a VERY low instep, almost a right angle, and narrow heels (unsure of how to quantify this). Arches are low, and I have a tendency to overpronate, rolling the foot over. This will require footbed correction.Toes are of a wedge shape, as opposed to sqaure, and I have no foot injuries or other abnormalities. I tend to like stiff boots, and have not yet encountered one that I cannot flex.


1. I have formerly been in boots that had substantial forward lean. I am able to get a good deal on some dobermann 150s. Others have described them as upright, so just how upright are they, compared to say a head rd 96 or a racetech?

2. What is your general opinion of the Dobie 150?

3. Which would you reccommend: RL11 or Dobie 150?

4. Sywsyw has shown me previous posts of yours in which you say that the dobie has a high instep. After looking at the pictures below, do you think they will work for my foot?

(I can get a hell of a deal on them)

Thanks,
Greg
post #348 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublediamond223
Jeff-

It looks like I'm not going to get my Diablos back.

Anyway, I need to find some boots for March.

I weigh about 198, am 6'2", and race (not this year, but w/e). Skill level is 9, I like to go very fast on hard snow and race. I have a left foot that measures an 11.5, and a right foot that is between a 12 and a 12.5. Both are mid-C width. I have a VERY low instep, almost a right angle, and narrow heels (unsure of how to quantify this). Arches are low, and I have a tendency to overpronate, rolling the foot over. This will require footbed correction.Toes are of a wedge shape, as opposed to sqaure, and I have no foot injuries or other abnormalities. I tend to like stiff boots, and have not yet encountered one that I cannot flex.


1. I have formerly been in boots that had substantial forward lean. I am able to get a good deal on some dobermann 150s. Others have described them as upright, so just how upright are they, compared to say a head rd 96 or a racetech?

2. What is your general opinion of the Dobie 150?

3. Which would you reccommend: RT Ti or Dobie 150?


Thanks,
Greg
Sent you a PM.
post #349 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
Atomic Race Tech- fairly similar setup to XT, but better hold, flex and even comfort. Not for everyone, but probably the best skiing race boot on the planet. Again, in my opinion...
Lange Plug Whatever- do you mean the old one or the new one. The old one is a great race/ freeskiing boot. It is not as low volume as the newer boots. Forefoot shape does not seem to match human feet very well. It skis well, but does not provide the hold that the newer boots do. The new boot fixes these issues, but does have a high instep. The Rossi Plugs should be the same... In my opinion, these boots seem to crack more than the other plug boots...
Nordica Dobermann- Great boot, more upright than the others, fairly high instep.
Salomon X2- Good boot, but harder to fit. Usually sqeezes the toes withough providing exceptional hold in the heel. Make friends with a boot guy
and

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
most boots that are high in the instep tend to be big everywhere. There are two notable exceptions.

A. The Nordica Dobermann WC soft and xs (extra soft)
B. The Rossi Plug boot (not a production one, but the "real" race model.
The Rossi plug he is reffering to is the old RL1, so the new RL11 continues the "tradition".

Jamie
post #350 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublediamond223
Jeff-

It looks like I'm not going to get my Diablos back.

Anyway, I need to find some boots for March.

I weigh about 198, am 6'2", and race (not this year, but w/e). Skill level is 9, I like to go very fast on hard snow and race. I have a left foot that measures an 11.5, and a right foot that is between a 12 and a 12.5. Both are mid-C width. I have a VERY low instep, almost a right angle, and narrow heels (unsure of how to quantify this). Arches are low, and I have a tendency to overpronate, rolling the foot over. This will require footbed correction.Toes are of a wedge shape, as opposed to sqaure, and I have no foot injuries or other abnormalities. I tend to like stiff boots, and have not yet encountered one that I cannot flex.


1. I have formerly been in boots that had substantial forward lean. I am able to get a good deal on some dobermann 150s. Others have described them as upright, so just how upright are they, compared to say a head rd 96 or a racetech?

2. What is your general opinion of the Dobie 150?

3. Which would you reccommend: RT Ti or Dobie 150?


Thanks,
Greg
I'll add some pictures of my foot to give you the best idea of my anatomy.




This way, you can make your own evaluation of my foot size, relative to others. Thanks again Jeff.
post #351 of 543

Vlad The Impaler is alive and well.....

Jeff- what th' Sam Hill are you doing, doling out advice to these fine folksesses?
Best galderned Footbitter I've ever know'ed.....
post #352 of 543
[quote=RadRab]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
...First of all, the type of footbed you use is rarely as important as who makes the footbed for you. While I set most of my clients with semi-rigid footbeds (they allow articulation but are still supportive)...

My question:
(Since I already blew having you yourself be the fitter because I went and made reservations at Vail instead of Breck) Who's footbeds would you recommend from these Vail shops where I will be in 10 days (or any other Vail shop not listed)...

Although the footbed may be the variable that is greater or more crucial, if you have a preference in the foaming and/or fitting job between shops, please also advise.

Thank you very much
Vail isn't that far from Breck. Why not take the drive and see one of the country's very best?
post #353 of 543
rigid footbed bad?
I've been on a pair of Jeff Rich's for 10 years. Thought they were pretty good...
post #354 of 543
Jeff,

A tip of the hat to you for providing this thread. After 12 pages of reading still not sure of what new boots to gander at to replace my ageing Solomons.

Background: Male, 140 pounds, 5'6", on the cusp between wide B to C forefoot with very narrow heel, skinny calfs and legs, pronate, and have low arches. Advanced skier mostly off piste on steeps, and love high speed GS turns. Ski about 35 days per year. Current boots are old Solomon Equipe racing 9.1 w/Thermoflex liner and orthotics, sized 293 boot sole length.

Boots I have tried on so far:
* Solomon Pro- too wide in the heel
* Dalbello Krypton - too wide forefoot and heel, and too much volume above the instep
* Nordica Hot rod - Too much volume all over
* Lange comp 120 MF - getting better but still too wide in the heel
* Lange comp 120 LF - It took me 5 minutes just to get one boot on let alone buckling up. jeez this thing was too tight and painfull all over.

All boot shells were length size tested with between one to two fingers space.



Help.

1. What other boots would you suggest I try out?

2. If my current boot fits perfectly, what do you feel I am missing from upgrading to a new boot? Is there a distict performance advantages from the new crop of boots?

3. Can you give your thoughts on Daleboots for someone with my requirements? I.E. Am I better off with a mainstream manufacturer for performance?

Thanks in advance for your help.

.
post #355 of 543
Jeff,

I am an 18 year old, male, 6’1, 160 lbs. Feet (cm) L/R: length 28.5/28; forefoot 10.5/10; heel 6/6. Very low instep. Long lower leg, thin at bottom, medium calves.

I have skied for about 20-25 weeks, and am a level 7/8 in ability. I mostly ski on piste (80/20) - no racing, but am looking to develop my off-piste skills.

I have been skiing in a 2003 Salomon X-wave 8.0 - size 29. The boot is too big for me around the leg, and I have to tighten the top two buckles to the last or penultimate notch to get a snug fit. Even with this there is too much room around my lower leg just above the ankle.

Additionally over the last two years I have grown quite quickly, and this seems to have increased my bowleg angle (almost 2 inches between my knees when my ankles are touching). I tend to pronate due to low arches. I have noticed that I have lost some edge grip in the last year, and now find it much easier to turn left when at high speed. I turn when standing on one ski.

I have booked an appointment in London with Profeet (I gather they are the best boot fitters available in the UK) for next week. They the same for fitting new or adjusting old boots.

Questions:

1.Is there any point in trying to salvage my current boots (good condition)?
2.If not, which models would you suggest?
3.What would be the best approach to correct my leg/foot imbalance?
4.Are there any additional insights or suggestions you could provide for my situation?

Thanks, I truly appreciate the time you take for this forum.

Tim
post #356 of 543
Jeff,
I appreciate you sharing your expertise. I'm 5'11", 207lbs, an advanced-level skier and have a 9.5 C foot that fits in low-volume boots best. I have a high instep, more on my right foot than left and get pain in my right instep from the skiboot/ski hanging on it going up a chairlift unless I use a footrest. The main thing I want to find is a great fitting boot that won't cost a fortune to modify and hopefully will suit me with minimal tweaking. I have Superfeet footbeds that feel fine to me. I'm using Rossignol Race1 27.5 boots which aren't very packed-out but are slightly loose around the heel and a bit roomy in the toebox. I have Lange L10's and Head WC Ti N97's to work with but I want to try something first...I just bought some Tecnica Icon Carbons that came with brand-new foam injection liners complete with the liquids/bottles/tubes. I didn't pay a lot for these and would like to give it a shot.

1) Do you (or any other reader) have a copy of the old Tecnica technical literature/instructions brochure for the Ergo Foam injection procedure?

2) If not, can you describe to me how to do it?

3) I found an old post in archives that suggested skiing in the liners a bit BEFORE injecting the foam to pack them slightly and get a better end result with the foam. Should I do this?

Thanks in advance. I'll be working with the Head N97's too as these feel pretty good and are supposed to be plugs but I want to see what the foam-inject liners feel like. DAW
post #357 of 543
Ok Jeff, I'll play

my boot question ...

BACKGROUND: I ski the Rossi Power 9.1j on the stiff setting. This is my fourth season in the boots (average of 40-50 days per season). Last year I moved the buckles to a looser setting and I ski my boots relatively loose, in general. I am a L7-8 skier (less agressive, confident in bumps and bowls).

PROBLEM: Wet feet. The reverse overlap thing seems to let a LOT of snow into the boot. I love the boots, they are comfortable -- but the wet foot thing is getting really old.

It's also time for new footbeds ...
post #358 of 543
Hey Jeff, thanks for helping all of us bears, I'm sure you've put countless hours in just typing on this thread alone.

I'm 26y.o., 6'2", 170lbs, little calves, level 8 skier on the 10 scale, generally ski at a resort but only 20% on the groomers the other 80% is a mix of pow, crud, and bumps. I have EXTREMLY flat feet. When I walk with wet feet on cement instead of my footprint getting skinny at the arch my footprint actually bulges out almost 3/4". I'm a size 12 Nike running shoe with orthotics in (foot is 295mm long). Needless to say I've got a very low arch and a 110mm across my BOF and I don't think my heel is really that big. I always wear my 3/4 length orthotics in all shoes, boots, and skiboots... and they help a lot. The problem up to this point has been finding a boot long enough and wide enough that would still get tight around the top of my foot without crushing it side-to-side in the arch area. With both my previous two pair of boots I've had to run the buckles clamped all the way down and they still weren't tight enough, which I now know they were 1-2 sizes too big but anyways, it seems that you reccommend the B9's for somewhat similar situations but I'd like to hear what you think.

I took some pics of my feet to give you a better idea of what we're working with. You don't have to look if you don't want, they're not the prettiest...:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...de_natural.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...e_orthotic.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nt_natural.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...t_orthotic.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...op_natural.jpg

1) What do you think?
2) Refer to #1 :

p.s. I live in Kenai, AK and I don't know of a decent boot fitter in the state let alone within 3 hours of me. Thanks again.
post #359 of 543
Hi Jeff,
Need some boot help, first background info:
6'0", 155 lbs, skier type (blues/blacks, just no heavy bumps), pref terrain- mostly groomed with mild terrain/bumps, 34 years old, and skinny feet, ski about 7 to 10 in a good year, have been skiing for about 13 to 14 years, would say I mostly like a little bit of speed where you can feel the turns, just do some minor local ski racing, and ski on a pair of x-scream series skies (and am probably going to be looking for more a carve/gs ski soon).
1. Other than hand me down boots, the only boots I have owned, and still own, are some Lange Mid Max 6s. It seems like I’m either too loose or too tight. Loose, meaning when I get into some hairy stuff I don't have as much control as I would like, and if I tighten them down to make them stiffer (and they are stiffer this way) they kill my tendons (I think I’m saying the right body part). In other words they feel like they are over tightened, and put pressure around the back part of my ankle and arch. I basically can't find a good in between. But who knows, because each time I try and talk to a shop about them I get the "you should get rid of those old carburetor versions and get the new fuel injecte version" (actual quote). Any recommendations? Does it sound like I need a stiffer boot or just try and better adjust the ones I have? How do you know if what you got is still working?
3. The carburetor shop did recommend a Dolomite Pro Z 110, and a Lange CRL 90. But I think they only brought out the Langes because that is what I was wearing. The Langes felt extremely flexible, almost like I was wearing an old pair of hightops. Of the Doloimites, the lowest models they had were the 110s, they didn't have the lower Rage models. The 110 was nice and fit well, but without a shop that could give me an accurate comparison of the lower models I wondered if I needed this high of a model. Any thoughts on any of these boots?
Thanks again for your help, Matt
post #360 of 543
Hi Jeff

My feet have a couple of questions for you.

I currently ski in a pair of tecnica tc3 avs. I have a very wide front foot and a boot that is to narrow, so by lunch time i cant feel my feet anymore.
and if its a really good day i cant walk when i take my feet out (no lies)
they did preform well and in a way wether right or wrong they became my feet.

here is were i need your help.
I just tried on a pair of Atomic SX 9 they fit well and were priced even better but seemed to have to much flex or more than i am use to.

with the above being said:

i hear there is an after market screw i can add to the boot to make it stiffer any truth to this?

I also looked on the atomic web site and was wondering if the B11 would fit the same way and at the same time provide more stiffness? (yet to find a local store that carrys it)

thanks in advance for your work here.

happy skiing
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