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post #181 of 543

Boot Suggestion Wanted

BACKGROUND (Physical): M, 5’-7”, 180 lbs, age 49; 10 ½ shoe size; Mortons’ toe, flat feet and low arch, forefoot width about 100mm; moderate calves;

BACKGROUND (Skiing): Level 9 by PSIA, Level 7/7+ (on the scale that 9 skis well on all terrain in all conditions); Recreational racer, ski groomers fast, but also enjoy off-piste and some bumps, good carve skills on blues - get some chatter on steeper; ski all blacks and some doubles; ski 40 days per year

I think it’s time to replace my 4 y.o. Dolomite Sintesi 8.5’s (have over 160 days). These were bought from a boot fitter and had a good match to foot shape. Still needed a grind and punch in 6th toe area. Suffered from heel lift, mostly corrected with a tongue shim, but still bang my toes when get back (mostly in powder or ruts). Bruised nail on big toe last year but did not lose it. For stiffness I put the adjustment screw to stiff, but found the inserts to be too stiff. I’d like a high performance boot that will work in the race course but be good for the 30 days/yr I’m not racing.

1. What recommendations do you have for new boots?

Thanks
post #182 of 543

Help for Wide Calves

I am a female intermediate, skis mostly in the East, mostly blue and Green trails. I currently have a pair of Nordica boots that were custom-fitted at Snowcovers in Whistler. Before that , they were quite painful.

Questions:

1. I have very low and wide calves, wide feet and medium ankles. Any boot model suggestions?
2. What sort of flex index should I be looking for?

Thanks for your great service on this website.
post #183 of 543
Jeff,

Thanks in advance for your help!

Background:

48 y.o. male, 5'11'', 145 lbs. Very slim, narrow feet and calves.

Advanced-intermediate skier. I ski primarily out east (Ontario). I'm NOT an agressive skier.

Current boot is Rossignol Salto STS.

Shell fit seems OK (lengthwise), but they always feel a little loose and I'm always working the buckles to snug them up throughout the day.

Questions:
  1. Is there any point in taking the boots I have to a boot fitter, or am I better off replacing them with a lower-volume boot like the Lange Comp 120?
  2. Given my relatively low weight and non-aggressive style, will a boot like the Lange be too stiff?
  3. Any other boot recommendations or general advice?
post #184 of 543

Lost My Boots -- Need Suggestion on Replacement

Jeff, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions!

I'm a 47 y/o male, 6'4", 205 lbs, skiing about 11 yrs, mostly in the NW and usually get in 20-30 days/yr. I believe I'm a level 6-7 skier, like to go fast on the groomers, but also look for powder in the trees and other off-piste areas on occasion. My normal ski is the '03-'04 R:EX (184).

I have really ugly feet...large bunions that don't bother me unless the boot/shoe is too narrow. So I need plenty of width, size 13 (30 or 30.5).

I've had a pair of Salomon Performa 7.0 boots for 6-7 years that really fit pretty well off the shelf. My problem is that for the first day of the season last Saturday, I couldn't seem to find my boots! I haven't given up yet, but it's looking like someone took them from a closet at our ski condo. Not sure who would want an old pair of big boots, but I can't ski in rentals again, so I need to get something fast.

Question:

What boot do you suggest for my ability and that will have plenty of width for my problem feet?

Thanks.
post #185 of 543
Hey Jeff,

Background info: I'm 5'11, 185 lbs, level eight skier. I've been skiing for 15 years and never had feet problems with ski boots.

I recently bought a pair of Dalbello Krypton Pro's. When I tried them on at the store, everything felt great. After a couple of weeks of wearing them around the house for an hour here, an hour there; I noticed I could move my heels up and down. I installed heel lifts hoping to fill some space and it may have helped a little, but I can still move that heal up and down about 1cm.:

1. How the heck can I secure my heel better?

Thanks for your time,
Huck
post #186 of 543
Hi Jeff,

Background: male skier w/ narrow foot looking for a race boot. I have a narrow heel, a medium to narrow forefoot, medium instep and a skinny lower leg. I weigh 150lbs.
I do have some questions about plug boots. I need a boot for freeskiing. I am a non-racer. I am looking for a boot with a more upright stance.

Questions:


1. Which plug boots should i consider? I need something that will fit my feet well, have an upright stance and be freeskiing friendly.

2. what about the semi-race boots? I am thinking Dobermann Pro 130/110.

3. what other boots have a more upright stance and would be a good choice for me?

Thanks in advance!
rx-7
post #187 of 543
Hi Jeff,

I am not interested in buying a new boot. I think this is the first time you're reading this in your thread.
I would like to ask you one thing. In 2002, you made a list of the boots you liked. This list had three groups: boots for narrow feet, boots for medium volume feet and boots for wider feet. Could you update it please?

This is the old list:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Bergeron
Here are the boots I consider good.
Narrow feet- Nordica Doberman S and XS, Tecnica Icon XT (very different from the rest of the Icon series), Rossignol Plug boot (the boot that racers get, not a production boot and has no warranty), Head World Cup 97 (I prefer the softer version) and Lady WC 97
Medium to wider feet- Head World Cup 103, Tecnica Icon series (if you weigh over 130lbs), Lange 130,120, 100 and Banshee series, Salomon Course Series and X-Wave(wider), Raichle Flexon Series without the Thermoflex liner (if you can find them), Nordica Beast.
Wide to very wide- Tecnica Rival, Salomon XWave, Nordica Beast.

Here are some boots that I consider to be ok, but have some disadvantages. These boots are all basically workable.
Atomic, Dolomite Syntesi, Dalbello, Rossignol for 2003, the Nordica soft boot (I have forgotten its name)
So, could you made a new list for people to see? This would be better for all of us. Please include the boots you would avoid or have some disadvantages. Theoretically, this would eliminate many questions IMO. But it is up to you. Then, if dchan likes it, it would be good if it was shown as one of the sticky threads we have in other forums.

Thanks in advance,

Jamie
post #188 of 543
Background: 48 year old male, 6' 200 lbs. Haven't skied for three years (heart surgery), used to ski blues and the occasional black diamond. Prefer precision carving, stay out of the bumps, away from off-piste -- but ski in the East which means basically little/no powder. Size 12 - 13 feet, wide in the front (12 1/2 New Balance EE running shoes with SuperFeet Green G liners), narrow ankle, skinny calves. Flat footed, overpronate. Knockneed without significant fitting, I think, but I live near Philly and want to get boots here. Still have a pair of Salmon SX90 Equipes from my most aggressive days, but also a pair of four-year old Salomon Performa 6.0's (both sets sized 30.5) which I realized were WAY too soft. When I tried on both pairs of boots, I felt like my feet were being stuffed into sausage skins. I'll ski perhaps 10 days this year.

Questions:

1) Can I use either pair of boots I already have as a basis for properly fitting out, or are they a lost cause and I have to buy new?

2) If I can salvage a pair, which one (I would have thought SX90's)? EDITED: WENT TO SALTER'S SKI IN EAGLEVILLE. THEY SEEMED KNOWLEDGEABLE (THEY WERE CERTAINLY VERY NICE). SX90'S ARE OUT, AS IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO PROPERLY SEAT CUSTOM FOOTBED.

3) If I can, which footbed, given that I KNOW I'll need 'em, but don't have access to GREAT fitters (at least, none that I can find from the web) EDITED: BOUGHT CUSTOM FOOTBED AT SALTER'S.

4) If I can't (and it looks like the newest boots have things that actually help like adjustable cant and might be better suited for my foot and weight), which ones to look at? Atomic B9? Salomon XWave 10? Nordica Beast or Speedmachine?

Thanks in advance!

EDITED: P.S. I ALSO HAVE A PRISTINE PAIR OF ROSSIGNOL 4G EQUIPES, 205CM, WITH MARKER BINDINGS. WILL PROBABLY USE THOSE, THOUGH I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN BALANCING THEM BECAUSE I'M SO KNOCK-KNEED.
post #189 of 543
Me 6'4" 215 pounds. Ski anything, anywhere. Non-racer freerider. Prefer big heavy fat skis (Legend Pro) and charging pow and crud out West, but also ski East on 85mm.

My Foot: 28.5; very high instep, average to wide (D width) forefoot, big ankle bones, average heel, custom footbeds.

Been skiing Tecnica TNT Explosion 10.
Looking for new boot this year.
Picked up a 2004/5 Diablo Magnesium Hot Form on others recommendations and fact that I have a Tecnica foot. Fit is great, but boot flex is ridiculously soft. Haven't done hot form, only done room temperature flexing. But entire lower boot shell seems to deform when i flex. It seems way too soft. I'm sure it will stiffen a bit with hot forming and cold temps, but I dont think that will be enough.
100 flex index? I dont think so.

So, I am back to the drawing board.

1. Looking for high instep options for stiffer boots for freeride skiing. It needs to be stiff enough so that I can charge powder chowder at high speeds and not have tip deflections compressing the boot and affecting the ski trajectory.

I am not beholden to Tecnica, but need a boot that fits my foot and high instep.

Not really wanting a plug boot, for comfort and warmth issues. But still want a really stiff boot (by todays soft standards).

Thanks so much.
post #190 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by gapic skier
Me 6'4" 215 pounds. Ski anything, anywhere. Non-racer freerider. Prefer big heavy fat skis (Legend Pro) and charging pow and crud out West, but also ski East on 85mm.

My Foot: very high instep. 27.5 average to wide forefoot, big ankle bones, custom footbeds.

Been skiing Tecnica TNT Explosion 10.
Looking for new boot this year.
Picked up a 2004/5 Diablo Magnesium Hot Form on others recommendations and fact that I have a Tecnica foot. Fit is great, but boot flex is ridiculously soft. Haven't done hot form, only done room temperature flexing. But entire lower boot shell seems to deform when i flex. It seems way too soft. I'm sure it will stiffen a bit with hot forming and cold temps, but I dont think that will be enough.
100 flex index? I dont think so.

So, I am back to the drawing board.

Looking for high instep options for stiffer boots for freeride skiing. It needs to be stiff enough so that I can charge powder chowder at high speeds and not have tip deflections compressing the boot and affecting the ski trajectory.

I am not beholden to Tecninca, but need a boot that fits my foot and high instep.

Thanks so much.
WOW! How did you get the Mag? I found it soft too and i'm only 155lbs.

I'm not Jeff but i would like to make a recommendation. If you want to stick with Tecnica you could consider the Race Pro 130. It has a higher instep and is stiffer but i do not know if it is stiff enough for you. I have the Tecnica real plug w/ 150 flex index and i can flex it (i cut the lower but also put both bolts in).

You do not say anything about plugs so here is a great option IMO. Look at the Lange RL11 in ZB or ZC flex. This boot has a high instep and is wider in the forefoot. It also freeskis very well and is more forgiving than other plugs. So, if you want to ski your best and turn your Legends faster than anything else, get this boot. I am pretty sure Jeff would agree with me.

Good luck,
Jamie
post #191 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by sywsyw
WOW! How did you get the Mag? I found it soft too and i'm only 155lbs.

I'm not Jeff but i would like to make a recommendation. If you want to stick with Tecnica you could consider the Race Pro 130. It has a higher instep and is stiffer but i do not know if it is stiff enough for you. I have the Tecnica real plug w/ 150 flex index and i can flex it (i cut the lower but also put both bolts in).

You do not say anything about plugs so here is a great option IMO. Look at the Lange RL11 in ZB or ZC flex. This boot has a high instep and is wider in the forefoot. It also freeskis very well and is more forgiving than other plugs. So, if you want to ski your best and turn your Legends faster than anything else, get this boot. I am pretty sure Jeff would agree with me.

Good luck,
Jamie
Thx Jamie. I am trying to avoid plug race boots. I still want some comfort and warmth. Maybe one of the consumer friendly plugs would work.
I obviously had not heard how soft the Magnesium was, even though I did read lots of reviews. It has an alleged flex of 100. It is also the stiffest boot in the lineup other than the "race" named boots.
After reading further, the Tecnica Race Pro 130 seems pretty soft also.

One option I am eager to try on is the Nordica Speed machine 14. Supposed to be the same stiff flex as the dobie 130, but with a bit more civilization.

Otherwise, I am not sure which other boots will have enough room for my instep.
post #192 of 543
the race pro110 (labeled 130 last year) is by far stiffer and more responsive than the MAG. give the 130 a try. it's comfy, too.
post #193 of 543
Jeff, thanks for giving your time and expertise here.

I have a few questions about fitting a pair of Atomic "B-Ride" or "Beta Ride" 9.50 boots that I picked up in new condition at a recent ski swap. Size = 27.5. Here's a link to a site showing the boot: http://www.outdoorreview.com/cat/ski...3_1544crx.aspx

My info: 5'9", 175 lbs, 44 y/o male skier. Street shoes: 9.5. Current boots: Technica Rival RX9 in 27.5, about 4 seasons old (70-80 ski days). Wide forefoot, high arch; typically wear New Balance EE running shoes. Ski mostly east coast groomers / crud; advanced but not expert skier; prefer fast, aggressive skiing but also turn it down when skiing with my kids.

Questions:

1 - am I correct thinking the B-Ride is a good choice, based on good results with the Rival RX9 (after a little tweaking of buckles and adjustments at the local shop)?

2 - am I correct thinking the B-RIde will be a higher-performance boot - a little stiffer and more aggressive?

3 - Here's the big question. B-Rides seemed perfectly comfortable walking around for 1/2 hour with crappy stock footbeds. Then I transferred my "zip-fit" footbeds from the Rivals to the B-Rides, and walked around for 1/2 hour in the house with much arch pain and cramped little and 2d toes. Yuck. Painful, can't imagine skiing like this, thought about grinding out the front of the boot, or getting a custom footbed. So as I was pulling the Atomic apart to put the footbeds back in the Rivals, out popped this black plastic insert that went beneath the Atomic's liner. It was on the bottom of the boot, above the shell and beneath the footbed, and is probably 3-4 mm thick, flat on the top with little ridges underneath. Just to experiment, I kept that black plastic out of the boot, then put back in the liner and Zipfit footbed, and voila! It feels PERFECT now. Now I'm thinking no grinding, no custom footbeds, it feels just right without the insert under the liner. So my question is, what's wrong with this picture? Does that plastic insert under the foot, between the shell and liner, do anything so important that I ought to keep it in, and go to a real bootfitter to grind out the forefoot or get custom footbeds? Or can I save a little money here and get what I think will be the higher performance of the Atomics, without spending extra bucks?

EDIT - did a little searching and have found -- DUH -- that these inserts are called "footboards" or "base boards". And there are several posts that talk about grinding / modifying the footboard to create additional space. So my big question - perhaps a stupid question - is, more precisely, what if I just take out the footboard altogether? And if that's not advisable, how much should I expect to pay and how long would it take for a competent bootfitter to grind down or modify the footboard to give me the space I need?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
post #194 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by gapic skier
After reading further, the Tecnica Race Pro 130 seems pretty soft also.
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Exactly. I tried both the Mag and the Race Pro and i have to tell you that the difference is not a lot. Stiffer, but not a lot more. These numbers are made up!
post #195 of 543
Jeff,
hoping you can answer my post #190 regarding very stiff boots for high insteps.

In searching your threads and other posts for info, I have seen a few folks describe a hot knife stabbing pain in the metatarsal area.
Mine was like a red hot knife being inserted (and twisted) between my 2nd and 3rd toe bones, right behind the ball of my foot.

It was cured for me by a pedorthist bootfitter putting a metatarsal arch into my footbed. He said the pain was from my bones crunching together as they slid past one another due to insufficient support in that area.

Worked for me.
May work for someone else.
post #196 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by sywsyw
Exactly. I tried both the Mag and the Race Pro and i have to tell you that the difference is not a lot. Stiffer, but not a lot more. These numbers are made up!
the old 130 (now 110) race pro flexes just right for my 160lbs for hard snow. very probably you will feel less of an improvement compared to the Mag than i feel, at your much higher weight. for me, there is quite a bit of stiffness difference. the mag felt soft as an AT boot in the shop...if at least it had had anything like heel hold...
post #197 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowdan
the old 130 (now 110) race pro flexes just right for my 160lbs for hard snow. very probably you will feel less of an improvement compared to the Mag than i feel, at your much higher weight. for me, there is quite a bit of stiffness difference. the mag felt soft as an AT boot in the shop...if at least it had had anything like heel hold...
Funny you say that, since I had a Diablo Mag on one foot and my Garmont G-Ride on the other. I swear they felt the same stiffness.
post #198 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowdan
the mag felt soft as an AT boot in the shop...if at least it had had anything like heel hold...
Very well said! I don't know why Tecnica makes these models. This is exactly what happened with the XT vs. the rest of the Icons. They only built one boot IMO.

With the newer models, history is repeating itself. The only difference is that they now make 3 models (based on the same mold with minor differences between them) and the plug (which is probably the same mold). I finaly said it.

Jeff, if you're reading this, i am pretty sure you agree!

Diablo mag, fire, flame owners: no offense, all this is IMO.

This is why i asked Jeff for a NEW list of boots he likes. I am pretty sure the rest of the diablos will be on that list, but if we made a list of boots that are flawless, that list would be very short b/c we would have only semi-race and race boots. Why? Because only they provide a really good fit in the ankle, heel and instep. Why? Because these areas are critical for performance. If the boot does not fit well in these areas, the boot will never work well. oh, one more thing: these boots flex. No wonder why some people find them soft. It's because they never had a boot that flexed. There's a big difference between the XT and the Icon Alu Comp. One really flexes, the other doesn't. So...

Sorry Jeff, but i wanted to say it. Please tell me what your opinion is on this subject. Can't wait for the new list!

Jamie
post #199 of 543

Best All Purpose Boot for me?

Hello,

I am planning on buying a pair of boots within the next few days and I need some advice. I am 22 (male), 165-168 lbs, 5'9"-10", I consider myself an expert level skier. I wear around a size 27.5 boot. I recently purchased a pair of '06 177 Volkl karmas. I ski everything, 60% of the time all moutain (trees, moguls, cliffs, powder, groomed, etc) 40% Park (jumps, some rails), in both I like to get a lot of airial. The boots I am looking at:

Technica Flame Hot Form and Ultra fit
Salomon Wave 8 and 10
Salomon 1080 Foil Boot
Nordia Beast 12
Lange CRL 80

Based my physical characteristics, skiing ability, and the type of skis I'll be riding, which of those would you recommend? Why? Is there any other models I should look at?

Thanks,

pray for snow,

Alex
post #200 of 543
Hi Jeff,

Background: male skier who is looking for new SKIS (don't laugh) I am interested in the '06 Volkl Racetiger SL WC and the Rossignol 9S WC. I weigh 155lbs. and i want the ski to be soft logitudinally.

Questions:
1. What do you know about these skis? Anything you know from the race coaches is good for me. I have to pick one. I was told that the new 9S is stiffer than the '05 version.

I hope you can help me.

Thanks in advance!
xt-17
post #201 of 543
Jeff,

Background: i am looking for a boot for an intermediate skier. She has a narrow foot (narrow heel/ankle and a medium instep). She is currently looking at the Nordica Dobermann WC 100.

Questions:

1. Is the Nordica WC 100 a good boot for a female intermediate skier? It seems the cuff is lower.

2. What are the differences between the 150 and the 100 in terms of fit? Does it have the same last and liner? This would not be good for her. I think the 100 is small womens/jr boot. The WC 100 costs a lot less $ than the 150.

3. What is your opinion about the Pro 100? I think it is too wide in the heel.

4. Any other options? From Dolomite, Atomic, Tecnica etc?

5. She weighs 115lbs. (i think). Do you think that she can flex the WC 100? I know that the WC 150 has lines for cutting the lower. Does the 100 have them?

6. I have a question about sizing. Nordica says it is available in 3UK. This would be 4 US. This is aprox. MP22 (they are built in the UK sizing). What i would like to know is this: does Nordica make a real 22?

Thanks in advance!
XT17
post #202 of 543
Background Info: 5'9", 160lbs, 31 year old female skier. I ski 90% off-piste at Alta, typically ~100 days/yr and am just getting into the backcountry. I've been skiing for 21 years.

I'm currently skiing Salomon X-wave 9.0 women's boots and 160 SX:9's (for icy days), 167 Phat Luvs (alpine for trees, etc.), 174 Phat Luvs (AT), 178 Hippy Stinx (tele, with T-1's for boots), 178 G41's (rock skis) and 183 Gotamas (powder). I have a wide-ish forefoot, relatively narrow heel, narrow ankles and lower calves, but muscular calves. Medium to high arch, and I have custom footbeds in my boots.

Questions:

1. I've been debating with friends who just use their alpine boots in Freeride bindings and wondering if it would be adviseable to buy separate AT boots if I plan to tour 1-2 days/wk. My main concern is that I will pack out my alpine boots faster, and they fit wonderfully right now. Is this a valid concern or is it primarily a weight and comfort thing?

2. Do you have any AT boots that you'd recommend? I'd like to get something lighter, but don't want to be flailing around on the way down. To me, touring is definitley more about the down than the up. But I'd sacrifice a little performance for something lighter on the slog up. And I anticipate touring mostly for good conditions anyway.

3. I'm currently skiing alpine in a Women's Salomon X-wave 9. Do you know of anything in similar boot fit in an AT boot that would be a good starting point?


Thanks!!
post #203 of 543
Hi Jeff,

About me: Ability High 8/Low 9/Racer, Height 5 foot 9, weight 155lbs, 50-days per year approximately, long legs (especially tib/fib: my measured inseam (floor to pelvic bone) is 85.5cm). Foot is a C-width, I ski with semi-pliable orthotics (I don't have natural arch support without them), and other than that, I am pretty neutral (I like to cant my left leg out with 4 strips of duct tape to bring it flat on the snow). My ankle flexibility range is somewhere around 80 degrees Boot size is 25.5 with 1-finger width behind the heel for a shell fit. I ski the whole mountain, and run gates occasionally as well, so I want a responsive, but not overpowering, boot.

Questions:
1) I am currently skiing in the Head RD96 boot-it is much more upright than others I have tried recently (2000/2001 Sollie Course, Technica XT17, and Dolomite Pro Z130). I have been skiing the Head for about a year, and it feels quite balanced. I have yet to need modification on this boot, as I find it quite comfortable width-wise. Is a shallow forward lean in a boot such as the Head desireable for someone of my build? I am not sure of the ramp angle on the Head either. If the Head is not the best choice for my body type, can you recommend some boots that may work better? So far, I really like it, but there are many boots that I don't have access to demoing.

2) If I keep the Head, I would like to soften it up a slight bit. It is fine for hard snow, but just a little stiff for off-piste crud. I can ski it, but would prefer a little more forgiveness in these conditions. How much material should I cut out initially (I have already removed the rear screws, and it is still stiffer than the Z130 boot). Thanks for your time!
post #204 of 543

Boot advice please

Hi Jeff, and thank you so much for offering your expertise.

I am an intermediate skier. I have a narrow heel, but a wider forefoot (87 mm). I tend to get very cold feet (poor circulation? or perhaps the Tecnicas are not very warm?). I'm rather small-framed (140 lbs, at 5'9"). I'm in the Ottawa region, in Canada, so this isn't Wistler... mostly hard packed granular and lots of ice.

Last year I upgraded from very low end beginner skis (Head Cyber 20x) to Volkl V3's, and my skiing improved immensely. I am still a little awkward on the slopes, my equilibrium is not the best, but I have little to no fear and ski relatively aggessively for someone who's only been skiing for 4 seasons.

Now, I'm finding that my boots are limiting my abilities and my skis' capabilities. They are Tecnica Innotec T1 6.1 (a model that probably doesn't exist anymore). These served me well, as they took me from a complete beginner to a moderately good intermediate level... but now I need to upgrade.

1-) I need a boot that will take me from my current level to more advanced, yet be a little forgiving of my current limitations. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

For now, I have been looking at the Nordica Speed Machine 14 or GTS 12.0 and the Salomon X Wave 10.0 Fast... but only in magazines (haven't even been to a ski shop yet).

Thank you so much!
post #205 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgcatching
I want a responsive, but not overpowering, boot.
This is a very accurate description of the XT.
post #206 of 543
Quote:
Originally Posted by sywsyw
This is a very accurate description of the XT.
True, but the dawg'd want to put in a gas pedal to decrease the ramp/lean, I suspect. That's what Jeff did for me...
post #207 of 543
Jeff,

In addition to my request of a new list of boot you like, i thought i asked you a couple of questions. You will notice that i did my homework.

Background: male skier w/ a narrow foot, i weigh 155lbs, 5 foot 9, skinny lower leg and a low instep. I have the XT-17 and i use the Tecnica Race R lace-up leather liner. This liner changes the fit dramatically. It is very different than the standard liner. The fit is phenomenal: very tight in the heel/ankle area and fantastic over the instep. On the other hand, the fit of the forefoot is very different. What i mean is that the boot is still snug, but offers more room for the forefoot and the toes. The lace-up super thin liner makes me feel these things which cannot be felt with the standard liner.
I read your statements about race and semi-race boots and from what you had told me i think we have a problem. There are very few boots which fit like the XT and freeski just as well. I looked at thse boots:
Atomic RT Ti - very similar heel/ankle hold (IMO) and wider in the forefoot. The problem: a race boot which is unforgiving off the groomers. As you said, it can be a handful off groomers.
Atomic RT Cs - wider forefoot. The problem: too wide in the forefoot, even if it is easier to live with than the Ti.
Nordica Dobermann WC 150: narrower forefoot but a high instep. Same issues as with the RT Ti.
Nordica Dobermann Pro 130: as you said, it is not tight enough in the heel.
Tecnica Diablo Race R: i had this boot (i am using its liner). Same issues as with the Dobie 150.
Tecnica Diablo Race Pro: as you told me, it fits medium to higher volume feet and is not tight enough in the heel.
Lange RL11/R2005: this boot is roomier than the R2004 and you already told me that the XT is lower volume than the R2004. High instep.


These are just some examples. You were the one who told me that the fit in the ankle, heel and instep is critical for performance. The closest match is the RT Ti. I remember your answers. But it is too wide in the forefoot for me. And is very unforgiving compared to the XT as far as freeskiing performance is concerned.

Questions:

1. What boot fits like the XT (which holds my foot perfectly) and freeskis just as well? Is there any real option? The liner is not an issue here b/c i am using the lace-up liner. So my only concern is the shell. I do not want a boot with more forward lean than the XT.

2. If there is no real option, i think i should get another pair and relax for a couple of seasons. What do you think? Will anything new appear or should i relax and use the XTs?

3. Should i wait until the 2007 season?

4. In your opinion, is the XT good enough to stand up to the challenge of the newer freeskiing race boots like the Lange plug?
Thanks in advance!
Jamie
post #208 of 543
Hello, Jeff,

Background: (First post - I hope I'm doing this correctly)
Male
165 lbs
53 years old
decent skier (PSIA level III alpine cert - You know that merely means I might be painfully aware of some of my shortcomings!)
Current location: Nelson, British Columbia
Most training: Winter Park, Colorado (Obviously, I should have visited Breck!)
50-70 days/season
Preferred terrain: Bumps, trees, powder
Current ski boot: Lange Banshee 110, 323 mm sole
The boots are sized tight, with slightly less than 1 finger of space between my foot and the shell.
The boots ski well (I passed my exam in them a couple of years ago), and my stance is much better in them than it is in Tecnica boots. I need a more upright shaft and less ramp angle than the Tecnicas, I think.

I usually ski on Salomon bindings.

I have two issues with the boot:
A. I have a small shin and calf. The fitter in Winter Park (Blake Peterson) added closed-cell foam to the tongue, which took up some space and made the shaft more upright, all of which was good, but in about 60 days of skiing, I ran out of travel on the buckles anyway. There is a dimple in the cuff overlap to allow another hole to be drilled for the hooks, and I relocated them, so now I'm in the middle of the hooks when comfortably buckled. I realize this may compromise the boot - it certainly makes it stiffer, but the 110 is not a particularly stiff boot in the first place. The lower boot fits well, and with decent custom footbeds, I don't have to buckle up super tight. The middle of the range works fine on the lower boot.
B. The boots are miserable to remove when cold. I have actually cut the top of my foot on the shell a couple of times when removing them.

So I'm considering new boots. As you might guess from my background, I have a bias towards precision. The local preferences (the Kootenays in BC) run more towards softer boots to go with the softer snow. The only Lange carried locally that I might be interested in is the Comp 120 FreeRide. I think I might prefer a Comp 120 Low Fit. I'd have to go to Vancouver or Whistler to try on a pair.

Sooo, here (finally!) are the questions:
1. Given all the blather above, does the Comp 120 Low Fit sound like a reasonable possibility?
2. And, considering the same bunch of verbiage (small calf; want centered, upright stance; the last on Lange boots seems to work well for me), what other boots do you think I should consider?

Thanks.

John Cooley
Nelson, BC
post #209 of 543
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Originally Posted by Scott K
Hi Jeff,

Welcome back!

I am strictly a recreational intermediate skier, skiing the groomers on typical eastern ice and hard-pack. Blue runs are the typical for me. 40yo, 175# in good condition, 5'9". I currently have Dalbello 6.6 boots (very entry level) and I am going to purchase a mid-tier boot, but I have a problem.

1. Do I buy boots that fit my big foor or my smaller foot?
I currently have a size 26 boot. My feet are small relative to others of the same size. The problem is my left foot is larger in width than the right. The area that gives me problems is just behind (medial) to the ball of my foot - the area where the arch and ball meet. It is not a boot issue, I have similar problems with ice skates and loafer style dress shoes....the right shoe/boot is perfect, and the left one sqeezes the bageezus out of my foot.

I am in need of new boots. Should I get a boot that fits the right foot but is tight on the left and have it stretched (attempts of having my recent boots done was mediocre - better, but not quite a "fix") or should I get a boot that fits the left foot well and is slightly too large for the right foot.

2. Do certain styles or brands run wider than others?

Thank you in advance,
Scott
Scott,

1. If you have access to a good boot fitter, the best solution would be to buy boots that fit the smaller foot well and grind/punch the boot for the larger foot. It is not a difficult job, it just takes someone who has experience and wants to do a good job.

2. Of course. A few boots you might look at are the Nordica Beast, Tecnica Vento or possibly even the Diablo, the Salomon XWave or the Atomic B9.

Hope this helps,
Jeff Bergeron
post #210 of 543
Thread Starter 
Readers,

I am back after some time away (working 10 to 14 hours a day) and am responding to the posts. If I miss your question, please feel free to repost it if you still want a response.

Thanks,
Jeff Bergeron
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