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Randonnee vs Tele

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
To those who keep repeating the refrain "Randonnee is French for can't tele" ...

... I tell them that "Tele" is Norwegian for "can't alpine" ;-)

--- Jens
post #2 of 23
Yep, this pinhead I was skiing with asked me how do I do those parallel turns? I told him don't telemark, just remain standing, but he didn't get it. That was strange because I thought parallel turns were easier on all kind of skis. Telemarking on alpine skis is hard but it's the latest thing. See the thread about "waisteering". Very good stuff.
post #3 of 23
I get that question too. One of the things I love about skiing freeheel is the option to do any style of turn I feel like. After carving some nice big parallel turns and letting them run on a mid-week day, I was asked by an onlooker, "you can do that (ski parallel) on those things?".
post #4 of 23
Onlooker (gaper) yes, but this guy was an advanced telemark skier on fatties. Probably all hopped up on granola and pine cones.
post #5 of 23
At least he didn't shun you for NOT dropping your knee for every turn.
post #6 of 23
I hated myself for not doing it but it was late in the day, I was tired and sore . I couldn't have kept up with these guys unless I "cheated". Maybe he was just being nice by feigning interest.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by telerod15
I. I couldn't have kept up with these guys unless I "cheated". .
I did a back country tour with some decent tele-skiers. We had one early morning descent on frozen corn and I did parallel turns the whole way down. When they caught up they finally admitted that they have their time and place.
post #8 of 23
Tele turns and tele skis are great, but they definitely are not the best tool for every job in the backcountry.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Jens
To those who keep repeating the refrain "Randonnee is French for can't tele" ...

... I tell them that "Tele" is Norwegian for "can't alpine" ;-)

--- Jens
Troll? On your 1st post?
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by mudfoot
Tele turns and tele skis are great, but they definitely are not the best tool for every job in the backcountry.
Did you have to use the j word? Dude, you're harshing my buzz!
post #11 of 23
For some lucky people, going into the backcountry on skis is their job.
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Powdr
Troll? On your 1st post?
I think trolls are common in the folklore of Norway. My mom brought me back two little troll dolls when she went to Norway. One was on skis. I was young then and didn't understand the importance of Norway to skiing or skiing to Norway. I think Jens is a Swede.

And he blew the punchline. Jens, search the forum, I think John Sheffitz said tele was Norwegian for "hey, wait up!' or something like that. I think John quit posting here after a flame war with me on the very same subject. Search forums for can't tele french wait.
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by mudfoot
For some lucky people, going into the backcountry on skis is their job.
Well, I'm a messenger so unless they need someone for Snowshoe Thompson's route, skiing is just for kicks and grins for me. For professional skier, guide, patrol, I think they should use the best "tool for the job".

I'm not a pro BC skier or even an amateur one, so I don't have strong feelings about it. I do have negative feelings about use of track bikes in my profession but the fixie kids are getting the job done. I think track bikes are a lot like telemark. More demanding of skill and strength for no good reason except to enhance the experience. For me it's already too demanding with road bike, we are on commission, so efficiency matters.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by telerod15
And he blew the punchline. Jens, search the forum, I think John Sheffitz said tele was Norwegian for "hey, wait up!' or something like that. I think John quit posting here after a flame war with me on the very same subject. Search forums for can't tele french wait.
I got that line from a former tele friend (still friend, but now AT, although none of my doing). If you search on all posts by me, you'll find that thread toward the end of my second page and throughout my third page. (But I don't think you'll find any drop off in my posts after the time period of that thread.)
post #15 of 23
Hey John! Trolling, I hoped you would bite. You were posting more frequently during our "flame war". I'm glad you are still here. Your knowledge is an asset to EpicSki. I'm glad I didn't chase you off. I reviewed that thread, and I think I won. When I said 7tm tour was free hinged for climb and safety release for descent, your weak answer was not active enough. How active are your naxos? Active bindings are for losers, wannabe fixed heelers!

Have a great winter! Are you still coaching the MIT ski team?
post #16 of 23
Hmmm, so if I tele and ride a fixie (not exclusively, I am not nuts...) is there something wrong with me or am just being consistent?
post #17 of 23
Hmm, what I actually wrote regarding the 7tm was:

"As for the Karhu 7tm and its new Tour version, I applaud such innovations in tele gear. (I also think the K2 tele platforms that accept the Dynafit AT ski crampon are a *great* idea and look forward to more of my tele partners being able to use ski crampons.) Unfortunately, many skiers do not care for Karhu’s downhill performance. But other imitators are bound to follow. (The Silvretta adaptor plate is also intriguing.)"

By contrast, all AT bindings ski the same in relatively soft snow. (For firmer stuff, see Lou Dawson's test over at wildsnow.com for difference in boot coupling rigidity.) And with the Silvretta Pure now apparently a success, AT skiers have yet another lightweight binding option (with of course a resistance-free pivot for the ascent). Looking at the figures in the Couloir pre-season gear guide is quite striking: no tele bindings match the Dynafit weight, and now the Pure falls roughly in the middle of the tele binding range. Meanwhile, the Couloir folks continue to advocate the benefits of a resistance-free pivot and a safety release (for avy terrain). And our fearless AT leader has infiltrated ttips.

This coming winter will be my third coach-free in a row (after two seasons of a bit of coaching and twelve seasons of far too much coaching), though I did have a tempting offer to coach nights at WaWachusett when I'd be there for the night league anyways). And in January we (i.e., Mrs. AT and I) will be moving to western Mass, where I will join the Northfield Mtn nordic patrol, which seems like a great way to learn more about outdoor safety. (The xc training is more like mtn search & rescue, even though it's a medium-sized groomed area.)
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by telerod15
You were posting more frequently during our "flame war".
I count about two dozen posts by me on AT that fall after the conclusion of that AT vs. tele thread -- you guys sure have high standards for frequent posting!
post #19 of 23
Great! Glad you admit it! "many wankers don't care for the Karhu's perforamce". There is AT for those losers.

"meanwhile Couloir advocates free pivot and safety release". OK, WE HAVE THAT!

HaHA, nordic patrol! Justice! Have a great freeheel winter!
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by TeleCarve
Hmmm, so if I tele and ride a fixie (not exclusively, I am not nuts...) is there something wrong with me or am just being consistent?
Oh yes you are nuts and there is something consistently wrong with you. Thanks for asking.
post #21 of 23
Thread Starter 
In response to "POWDR", I say lighten up!
post #22 of 23
Post number 3 and he is aleady going for lighten up:
post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by TeleCarve
Hmmm, so if I tele and ride a fixie (not exclusively, I am not nuts...) is there something wrong with me or am just being consistent?
I'd say you are on the right track!
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