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Andrew McLean on tele vs AT

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http://www.telemarktips.com/AlpTouring1.html

Funny stuff. Disclaimer - I go both ways
post #2 of 23
Well this actually intrests me in getting an AT set-up. How exciting, a whole new realm of gear to collect.

I think I'll print this out and make copies to distribute during the tele races at Snowbowl this year.
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Thanks for the link.
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He can write.
And I agree with his premise (which is a long-held one!). I like light touring skis for touring. For big climbs and turns, AT. In a land with big mountains, it's gotta be AT.
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by ant
... For big climbs and turns, AT. In a land with big mountains, it's gotta be AT...
We've got plenty of big mountains around here and most of us use Tele. Just a matter of preference and ability to genuflect
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Originally Posted by LeeLau

... I go both ways

How yooo doin....
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you go up ...you go down.

It's not the meat, it's the motion.
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by ant
He can write.
And I agree with his premise (which is a long-held one!). I like light touring skis for touring. For big climbs and turns, AT. In a land with big mountains, it's gotta be AT.
If you don't have the skill or strength to telemark, it's gotta be AT.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Powdr
We've got plenty of big mountains around here and most of us use Tele. Just a matter of preference and ability to genuflect
at the altar of either Luddism, or the "core soul brah" sentiment, I would imagine.
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by telerod15
If you don't have the skill or strength to telemark, it's gotta be AT.
fix the heel, fix the problem. ta ta!

(sorry, I didn't know McLean closed with the same comment)
post #11 of 23
I guess nowadays, with the ultra-heavy tele gear they wear in the US, the main difference is heels free or not. McLean likes his heels secure, then again given the nature of what he does, it's not that surprising.

And many who prefer AT can and do also telemark (I learned to ski as a kid on teles, cable bindings and leather lace up boots). For big mountain skiing, I reckon AT is the better tool.
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
fix the heel, fix the problem. ta ta!
Who has a problem?
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by telerod15
Who has a problem?
unfunny easter bunny.

"free the heel, free the mind" happyhippie nonsense is the trigger. you read the reply.
post #14 of 23
Come on ant. we all learned with leather boots and cable bindings but those ancient set-ups weren't intended for telemarking and we didn't know about telemark or try to telemark on old alpine leather boots / cable bindings.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
at the altar of either Luddism, or the "core soul brah" sentiment, I would imagine.
No, both! It's great that we can be Luddites and "counter-culture to alpine skiing's consumerism" to quote Mr. McLean and still ski the same high tech skis and lifts on the same pass as the "commercial" skiers. Pass the bong.
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by gonzostrike
unfunny easter bunny.

"free the heel, free the mind" happyhippie nonsense is the trigger. you read the reply.
OK sorry, I'm not as witty or wise as alpiners. Help me. What do you mean by trigger and what reply did I or should I read? If it was just a good joke that everyone else got, nevermind.
post #17 of 23
eh rod,

it's a joke commonly heard among those who have gear for backcountry, especially when the crowd is mixed with tele and AT users.

tele chick: right arm, brah... free the heel, free the mind.

AT slug: left arm, chica. fix the heel, fix the problem.
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Yes ok, you aren't funny either, but I never heard both clich├ęs at ther same time before. No MVP points for left/right arm bra chic spin.
post #19 of 23
Thread Starter 
Whether or not i go out into the snow as a knee dropping tree fairy or as a unsoulful locked heeler; I usually seem to enjoy myself

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Originally Posted by LeeLau
Whether or not i go out into the snow as a knee dropping tree fairy or as a unsoulful locked heeler; I usually seem to enjoy myself

that's one of your most endearing qualities Lee.

also your place of residence

your choice in condo locations

the fact that your wife rips it HUGE on a MTB

and the fact that you are doing what many would like do to -- running your own business as well as recreating in great places.

bastidge!
post #21 of 23
I rode the lift this past year with a tele skier who told me about how he and a friend had gone to, I think, Norway or wherever telemark skiing originated (as he told it), expecting to return to the roots of it all. What they found was that no one had plastic telemark boots. They were all wearing leather boots and skiing on AT set ups.
post #22 of 23
Leather AND AT, wow! Like the old gear ant and a lot of us started on? Wooden skis also?
post #23 of 23
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Originally Posted by telerod15
Leather AND AT, wow! Like the old gear ant and a lot of us started on? Wooden skis also?
Well I don't think so, but he didn't say. At this point I can't even remember who it was, though I'm pretty sure it was one of the regulars at MT Snowbowl. Snowbowl has a pretty close to equal thirds of alpine, telemark and snowboarders.
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