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Light Bindings

post #1 of 23
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Im trying to make one of the lightest pair of skis I can get. I was jsut wondering what type of bindings are light. I know the Rossi Axium are light but I dont know what other bindings arent heavy. thanks
post #2 of 23
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Originally Posted by LINEskiah
Im trying to make one of the lightest pair of skis I can get. I was jsut wondering what type of bindings are light. I know the Rossi Axium are light but I dont know what other bindings arent heavy. thanks
I think Tyrolia's SL (super light) series are pretty light, but I don't know how good they are.
post #3 of 23
The Salomon 912 Ti binding is very light. That is what I've put on my skis I plan to hike with.
post #4 of 23
You asked for weights:
Look PX14 Ti Lifter-2600g
Look PX12 Ti Lifter-2550g
Look PX 12 Lifter-2520g
Marker Comp 14-2800g
Marker Ti 1200-2616g
Tyrolia FF14-2520g
Tyrolia FF11-2345g
Salomon s914-2350g
Salomon s912Ti-1980g
Atomic NEOX514-3260g
Atomic EBC412-3688g
Atomic Neox412-3260g

you will note the difference in most cases is barely a bag of chips, and as we are talking about bindings there is a reliability/preformance factor that you may want to think about...the bike guys always say "do you want it light/strong/cheap? pick any two...

i know which ones i would ski on...
post #5 of 23
The lightest Look is Nova 10: 1,500g/pair.
The same for Tyrolia: SL 100: 1,590g/pair.
The lightest Salomon is S710 TI: 1,670g/pair.
They are all basic 2-piece designs, no lifters, DIN 3-10.

Is there any special reason why you want the lightest binding available?
Without your DIN requirements it´s just a "contest" of recreational DIN 10 bindings.
post #6 of 23
While I was looking up the lightest models waxman posted some examples of high-end bindings. They make an interesting comparison.
post #7 of 23
Powder magazine just stated that the Marker 14.0 or 12.0 free bindings are some of the lightest out there.
post #8 of 23
Find some Americana's, plastic fantastics . Or even some Spademans
post #9 of 23
Wow, are the weights for the Atomic NEOX bindings the values for the new 2005/06 line that is supposedly 1.1 lbs. lighter per pair? If so, they are still "fat pig" bindings. It probably doesn't mean that much on snow, but it sure makes that hike (on the mountain or through the parking lot) a little tougher.
post #10 of 23
I've got the Tyrolia SL's on my Dynastar Twisters - makes for a very light pair of skis (if I remember right, total weight of each ski + binding is under 3.5 lbs), but they're only good in bumps and er, bumps. Never had any performance issues with the bindings, and I'm a relatively big guy (6'0" 200) - of course the DIN's are maxed .

J
post #11 of 23
Bear in mind that the swing weight of the Looks is less than most others because of the way it wraps around the heel of the boot, they feel lighter on snow than they really are. If you are talking about carrying weight though...
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Rio
The Salomon 912 Ti binding is very light. That is what I've put on my skis I plan to hike with.
I did the same thing with my pocket rockets. I use alpine trekkers with the setup to gain back country access. Definately heavier than a AT setup but it gets the job done nicely.
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by Noodler
Wow, are the weights for the Atomic NEOX bindings the values for the new 2005/06 line that is supposedly 1.1 lbs. lighter per pair? If so, they are still "fat pig" bindings. It probably doesn't mean that much on snow, but it sure makes that hike (on the mountain or through the parking lot) a little tougher.
Yup, that bit of extra weight is tough to take. Maybe get your wife or girlfriend to carry both your skis to the lift and you carry the poles.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by jake75
I've got the Tyrolia SL's on my Dynastar Twisters - makes for a very light pair of skis (if I remember right, total weight of each ski + binding is under 3.5 lbs), but they're only good in bumps and er, bumps. Never had any performance issues with the bindings, and I'm a relatively big guy (6'0" 200) - of course the DIN's are maxed .J
The weight of the Twister is 1600g, most Exclusives and two Drivers are slightly lighter, 1360g is the minimum.
The lightest Pivot (P12 Ti) has 2430g/pair, the lightest new PX (12 Ti) 2370g.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Betaracer
Yup, that bit of extra weight is tough to take. Maybe get your wife or girlfriend to carry both your skis to the lift and you carry the poles.
Real nice - I certainly got a chuckle from your comment, but if I have my choice of using "energy" for turns on the mountain or using it to lug gear through the parking lot, I think I'll save it for the mountain.
post #16 of 23
For those who are taking notice though, I certainly am a hypocrite talking about the weight of some bindings when the majority of my quiver is currently Volants which are known for being incredibly light - yeah right.
post #17 of 23

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LINEskiah
Im trying to make one of the lightest pair of skis I can get. I was jsut wondering what type of bindings are light. I know the Rossi Axium are light but I dont know what other bindings arent heavy. thanks
if you're willing to consider AT bindings......(/pair)

Dynafit TLT models:.17-27oz
Fritschi Freeride:.....73oz
Naxo nx21:............80oz
Fritschi Express:......61oz
post #18 of 23
i am with u lineskiah, to my knowledge the 2002/3 and 2003/4 tyrolia sl 100
weigh 1490gr. approx. same as look/rossi axium 100.

can anybody elaborate on the twister and the mentioned 1360 gr binding?????
post #19 of 23
Tyrolias *are* generally the lighter bindings out there, and IMO very good in terms of performance.

Atomics...wel lets just say that they are at the other end of the spectrum though this years are supposed to be a lot lighter.
post #20 of 23
Fritschi Freeride:.....73oz=2071g
Naxo nx21:............80oz=2270g
Fritschi Express:......61oz=1730g

please keep in mind that the light look and tyrolia bindings are entry level bindings for less aggressive or lighter skiers and respond poorly to abuse...
post #21 of 23
I'm with Rio and Huckingfellers on this one.

I have a pair of 1080's (The previous model) mounted with Salomon 912Ti which makes a really light combination (especially if you pick them up after a pair of race skis with plates and bindings!) but also has plenty of capability in the binding. .

Must admit I don't hike much tho!
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by crudcrusher
i am with u lineskiah, to my knowledge the 2002/3 and 2003/4 tyrolia sl 100
weigh 1490gr. approx. same as look/rossi axium 100.

can anybody elaborate on the twister and the mentioned 1360 gr binding?????
The binding isn't 1360 gr - that's the low end weight of the exclusive skis.
As for elaborating, what do want to know? I've got the twisters with the tyrolia sl 100's. They weigh nothing, won't cut through anything, are skittish on groomed stuff, no fun in powder, basically, the realskiers review has these skis nailed: "zipper line moguls and nothing else." I haven't had any prob's with the bindings releasing/not releasing (although, as mentioned, the DIN's are maxed).

All that said, the combo has three real problems with it: 1. They ski so well in moguls that you realize just how poorly your "all-mountain" skis really do perform in moguls, 2. They ski so well in moguls that all you want to do is ski moguls, and 3. Your girlfriend gets pissed when your excuse for hitting Palavacini for the 10th straight time instead catching the last of the new tracks on the East Wall is "but I'd have to go get my other skis."

Trust me, the last one sucks.

J
post #23 of 23
sorry jake 75, got it wrong just thought the twister to be a binding but thanks for the elaboration. in terms of skis i am on a 162 cm edelwiser 125/80/115 its only 1550 gr. and performes at least as good as the b5.
for this winter i am biased to test wide 140ties, if you go fast enough on them they
turn like hell in powder. they really suck!!!!!
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