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upgrading skiis - could use suggestions

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I have skied the past 1 1/2 seasons on 175cm Fischer RX4's. I think they are great skiis. The problem is I have "outgrown" them. My skiing ability has overtaken these skiis. I am not ready for the RX8's or 9's and my concern is the RX6 will be great for me now, but not next season. I should have bought the RX6's from day one.

I have no true allegence to Fischer, I just like what I have now. I like the integrated binding - conceptually it makes great sense. Wheather this is true or not in general or at my ability is another story.

I am an east coast only skier. usual haunts are Butternut and Catamount, Belleayre, Jiminy Peak, etc.... 10% greens with the kids to warm up, 80% blues, and 10% blacks. I am not speed crazy, but rather enjoy wooshing back and forth and up and over the hills (not moguls) on the various runs. I like the feel of good edge control.

Could someone give some suggestions to a true intermediate ski that will let me progress without beating me up or making me fight all day to remain stable?


post #2 of 13

Please describe your height, weight and general fitness & condition. Do you take lessons from time to time? This data will determine how quickly you will develop and what kind of ski should be considered.

Remember, those kids will be making you better skier; faster than you might think!

Best regards,

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
My post was wrong. My skis are 165CM. I am 5'9" tall, 175 pounds, good fitness/condition. I take 2-3 lessons per season. I ski about 12-15 days per season. I have absolutely no desire to be a downhill racer. I am truly a speed wimp. I musch prefer wooshing back and forth and catching a little air here and there as I go over the terrain. I would catagorize my "ideal" turns as moderate. Long sweeping turns I do not make and short slalom like turns, while I do make on occation, are not the norm.

post #4 of 13
I'm thinking...METRONs! M9?

Also, check out the new Atomic IZORs. Maybe the 9.7.

Atomics rock in the EAST!
post #5 of 13
At exactly the same height / weight / physical condition -- and skiing exactly the same hills, also with kids in tow - I was real happy on my Dynastar Speed SX 63's (170cm). That is, until the "need for speed" kicked in. Now I'm on a shorter slalom ski most of the hardpack days, and a longer, wider midfat on any day there's more interesting conditions -- e.g., fresh snow, crud, mashed potatoes, etc. The Dynastars although billed as a race ski are their softest race ski, more of an all-around ski like Atomic 9.18. So if you're looking at new skis, I'd definitely recommend trying some of the mid-range Dynastars with the "autodrive" plate. Don't know this year's lineup but in last year it might have been Omecarve 8 or Omecarve 9.
post #6 of 13
I LOVE my m:9 metrons. I'm an east coast skier, maybe more blacks than you say, sunapee and loon are our haunts. I'm 180 5-10 and I demoed both the 164 and 157 (the 164 is what my metron index said) but the 157s are perfect for me -- fast, and FUN. Bought them at easter and enjoyed them on the last snow at Loon, couldn't have had more fun if I tried. You can get 04 m:9's for $450-ish and neox 412 bindings for $125. Nothing could be finer than Loon's walking boss, almost empty, and pushing off to make really wonderful turns on these ski's -- a rush.

My son decided on C:9's instead of the metrons and he loves them as well.
post #7 of 13
I actually think that the RX6 would be a great ski for you, and is likely to last you a couple seasons. Or, step up to the RX8; it's not an "unforgiving" ski, and would allow you to grow into all you want to. It is cetainly possible to ski it slowly and carefully as well as at warp.

In a Metron, a 9 or 10 would be good choices, too. Will you have the opportunity to demo skis?
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
This time around I plan to demo as much as possible. That is the reason I posted - is to get an idea shat I should demo.

Keep the suggestions coming.

post #9 of 13
Gear FAQ.

Check out the Elan S12. More use friendly than the RX8. Not as still, but still a very high performer. Does not require attention to ski on. There are also dozens of other models out there that would suit you just as well... so don't necessarily take my word for it.


post #10 of 13
Good catch, Greg, I agree about the S12s.
post #11 of 13
If you like the feel of the Fischer RX-4's as ssh suggested, you might think of moving up to the RX-6 or the RX8. See http://www.fischerskis.com/en/ which contains a range of abilities to which a ski model is suited. All the RX models have done very well in the magazine tests as well as in reviews posted here.

With the Fischer RX-8 it won't be a matter of whether the skis will overpower you but whether you can first get all of the performance the skis has from them. That is likely true about the RX-6 as well.

You may want to think of buying the less expensive model, likely the RX-6, and invest the difference in extra lessons. That's really the best way to get the most out of either RX model and ultimately have more fun skiing.

As others have suggested there are some other very good skis to check out. The only skis I've owned and can say I know a little about are Fischer skis.
Good luck.
post #12 of 13
It sounds like the RX6 is taylor made for you, but I haven't tried it, so I can't say for sure. Find a shop that will count the money you spend trying out skis towards a purchase. That way you can try the RX8s and if you don't like em you can get the RX6s.

As for the other possibilities, I didn't notice any difference in terms of ease of use between the S12 and the RX8. The S12s will feel more damped and solid and the the Fischers will feel more lively. The S12s will want to turn around every bump when straightlining and there is little you can do to stop it, but I found by shifting my weight back a little this tendencey was less annoying on the RX8s. I seem to recall a Solomon CROSSMAX 10 (ski not boot) being fairly easy to ski and it still being competent when pushed. Maybe you can find a deal on a left-over. A solomon Equipe 10 SC would be a good choice if your were into short turns. If you're worried about having the ski control you, don't bother trying an atomic sx10 or 11.
post #13 of 13
Originally Posted by Ghost
A solomon Equipe 10 SC would be a good choice if your were into short turns.
I'd second that and recommend a demo of the Equipe 10 SC (or this year's equivalent) after re-reading your comments about "wooshing" back and forth. I haven't really mastered the technical talk but can tell you from first hand experience this is one "wooshing", swoopy, carving ski. Loads of fun but not overly demanding. Plus, a short turner like this one definitely helps max out the fun at the smallish Berkshire / Catskill areas.

Edit: I checked the Peter Keelty reviews to find the tech talk on the Equipe 10 SC. His take on the 2005 / 2006 version: "rubber band rebound," and "A great ski to polish skills."
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