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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hello all!

Today I received a pair of Volkl Racetiger GS ,180 cm, R21mts ,and I want to make you a couple of questions.

1) In the tail I see the following words
P291 #516 Race Department.
Are this really Racing Stock? or it is just marketing bullshit?

2) I saw the same GS Racetiger model with the same cosmetics except for the rugged surface, that has a totally different construction with two longitudinal structures.My ski seems to have a more traditional construction.

3)Have anyone tested both?.Can you tell me the differences?

Thank you in advance
post #2 of 16
The one's you have are the race stock. The "longitudal structures" you saw on the retail version are what Volkl calls "double edge grip construction." That, as well as the rugged surface, are both essentially marketing. The retail version of your ski has a different shape as well. The 180 would have a tighter turning radius than yours.
I have no idea what the writing on the tail means....
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by streif

1) In the tail I see the following words
P291 #516 Race Department.
Are this really Racing Stock? or it is just marketing bullshit?
It sounds like you got one of the race stock models made towards the end of last winter. The "P291 #516 Race Department" refers to the construction and the sidecut of that particular ski. It is a true "Race Stock" ski. It should also have something like "Radius > 21m" or something like that on the tail. Remember, for Race Stock skis, several versions of the same (topsheet) ski are made and then tested, trying to find the right combination of stiffness, torsional rigidity, sidecut, etc. They are then skied in late Winter, the Spring, Summer & Fall.

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3)Have anyone tested both?.Can you tell me the differences?
The RaceTiger race stock demands much more from the skier than the RaceTiger GS w/ IPT. I skied the 190 RaceTiger with an '06 Marker World Cup Piston Plate and Marker M1800's. It's not for the faint of heart. I thought the 182 Superspeeds were stable (they ski similar to the RaceTiger GS) until I skied the 190 RaceTigers. Sure the 182 Superspeeds are stable, but the 190 RaceTiger set up was just a step above.

HB
post #4 of 16
Harkin,
You ski when there isn't powder???
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer
Harkin,
You ski when there isn't powder???
I ventured down to UTAHHHHHHHH.

Q: Why does the wind blow in Idaho?
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A: 'Cause Utah sucks!:


OR

Q: What's the best thing to come out of Utah?
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A: Interstate 15!


HB
post #6 of 16
Harkin, there is one thing i would like to ask you about the Marker WC Piston Plate. Is it different than the '05 model? I am interested in the SL plate. If the GS plate is the same, the SL plate is probably the same.
post #7 of 16
Okay, I find the VOLKL expert thread. Can you please advise a guy who has skied for 40+ years but hasn't bought new stuff in 15 years?

I need boots to go with ProStar 6 GSs, 185's and market AT's. I am told to say I am an all mountain skier, 180lbs. I am alos told I cannot ski on these skis with my favorite boots, which are old Nordica rear entry things I really like.

I ski almost exclusively in the East, never been West, and in view of the jokes in this thread about Utah, probably I've been right so far in my choice of geogrpahy.

So what boots do you VOLKL experts think are best for me and my new skis, making lots of turns, liking moguls, 58 yrs. old?
post #8 of 16
ProStar? Are we talking Mastercraft boats, now? I assume you are talking about 6 stars.. Great skis, but by all means, get rid of the Rock Hudson boots. They will impede your progress. That would be like driving a Porche with a set of knobby ATV tires with 15 pound of pressure..... not much point to it. The Liberace boots offset any performance built into the skis.

And by the way, there is nothing wrong with the skiing in Utah..... Just the state itself. Look at Gary Dranow, for instance.... he lives in Utah.

The best boots for you are the ones that fit your individual foot best. Try several pairs on before deciding. Once you think you have the right pair, try the next smaller size. The #1 mistake, far and away, when buying boots, is buying them too big.

Good luck and post back with your decision.
post #9 of 16
Yes, SuperSport 6 Star...that's the one.


Funny, you're the 3rd person to say the same thing about the Nordicas. Even the same performance car anaolgy...driving a Porsche on bicycle tires one friend said.

Must be time to move on to new ones...

Yes, I like boots that fit very tight, like hockey skates, so I'll probably end up with a 9.5 M.

But I am just starting, trying to come up with a short list of boot brands to try on. Is Lange still a good choice to try? How about Salomon and Raichle? Do any of you find a particular brand that performs better/best with the 6 Stars?

Thanks for the feedback. It's very helpful.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by sywsyw
Harkin, there is one thing i would like to ask you about the Marker WC Piston Plate. Is it different than the '05 model? I am interested in the SL plate. If the GS plate is the same, the SL plate is probably the same.
The differences are mentioned in the latest issue of Ski Racing. The most notable one is a metal section on the sides. From I remember, the primary reason for change was ease in manufacturing more than anything else.

-T
post #11 of 16
Solomon and Lange boots are still around, and both are excellent boot makers. Raichle, I don't believe, exists. As many others will tell you, don't pay as much attention to the name on the boot as to how well the shape of it's shell matches the shape of your foot. As you already like a snug boot, you shouldn't have a problem, in performance, with most any competitive boot maker in the market.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by real9999
The differences are mentioned in the latest issue of Ski Racing. The most notable one is a metal section on the sides. From I remember, the primary reason for change was ease in manufacturing more than anything else.

-T
Thanks for the info. What were the other differences? From what you said, it appears that the new plate is not better than the old one. I saw some pics of the new plate and it seems the metal section is replacing the rubber section on the sides. Looking at the pictures there is no way you can tell that is a metal section. Any other changes?
post #13 of 16
You need to go to a local ski shop and get fit for a set of boots. It is hard to say what is going to work best for you without looking at your feet and trying different corectly sized boots on in the store. No one makes a bad high performance boot, but only a few will work for your foot shape and size.

No one will be able to tell you any more, unless you try some boots on for yourself and find out what works best.
post #14 of 16
Those Volkls are race stock. very similar to what they are using on the World CUp.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your comments.Excellent as usual
post #16 of 16
Thanks for the boot fitting advice. I have been researching several boots that I will try on next weekend. The Salomon Course Spaceframe and the X Wave 10, the Rossignol Elite Exp1 Carbon, the Atomic M 10, and the Lange 2005 Comp 100. Prices are all over the lot, so I will decide by fit and let you know.

Thanks again.
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