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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
Are you as disappointed with the way publications such as SKI and SKIING rate ski areas as I am? Here is your chance to rate your favorite 5 (or so) ski areas. Please rate them for:
Challenge
Terrain
Steepness
BC Access
Snow
Access
Crowds
Amenities.

Here are mine:
ALTA: Challenge=7; Terrain=9; Steepness=7; BC Access=9; Snow=10; Access=8; Crowds=9; Amenities=4
SNOWBIRD: Challenge=9; Terrain=7; Steepness=8+; BC Access=9; Snow=9; Access=8; Crowds=8; Amenities=6
THE CANYONS: Challenge=7; Terrain=8; Steepness=7; BC Access=7; Snow=7; Access=9; Crowds=8; Amenities=7
PCMR: Challenge=6; Terrain=6; Steepness=7; BC Access=6; Snow=7; Access=10; Crowds=7; Amenities=8
DEER VALLEY: Challenge=6; Terrain=6; Steepness=6; BC Access=6; Snow=8; Access=10; Crowds=10; Amenities=10.

I realize that a lot of this is subjective and limited to your personal experience, but I have to think that this survey will be more informative than the publications mentioned above.
post #2 of 28
who cares?
post #3 of 28
ALTA: Challenge=8; Terrain=9; Steepness=8; BC Access=9; Snow=10; Access=8; Crowds=9; Amenities=7
SNOWBIRD: Challenge=9; Terrain=7; Steepness=9; BC Access=8; Snow=9; Access=8; Crowds=8; Amenities=7
THE CANYONS: Challenge=6; Terrain=6; Steepness=6; BC Access=7; Snow=4; Access=7; Crowds=8; Amenities=6
PCMR: never skied there
DEER VALLEY: never skied there

What about SNOWBASIN? Challenge=8; Terrain=9; Steepness=8; BC Access=9; Snow=7; Access=6; Crowds=5; Amenities=8
post #4 of 28
Thread Starter 
I care. I want to see what the people of this forum think about ski areas in this country. To me, it is a better indication than some publications. I may rely upon some of the info. learned here when deciding where to travel.
post #5 of 28
Yeah, but really, who cares?
post #6 of 28
Canyons- wouldn't it be a better idea to have people post detailed reviews rather than ratings? Or at least make it a poll. No one is going to read through this and say "hey, Alta got a "9" for challenge according to someone, so I think i'll go ski there this winter"
post #7 of 28
Plus reading through all the posts and writing down the scores and getting the averages is time consuming. I don't think numbers tell you as much as descriptions anyway.
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 
Yes. I don't care how people do it. Really, I only want to hear what people think of whichever areas they want to talk about. I'm not good at creating poles. I like Utah. I chose to "rate" the areas that I am comfortable with. I could have rated my top 5s in challenge, terrain, snow, etc. It's all fun. I would like to hear from the knowledgable people who are part of this forum. Rather than just rate (for example) ALTA/SNOWBIRD #1; JH #2; MRG #3, I would like to hear why areas receive top marks.
post #9 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canyons
I care. I want to see what the people of this forum think about ski areas in this country. To me, it is a better indication than some publications. I may rely upon some of the info. learned here when deciding where to travel.
Guess you haven't been anywhere but Utah huh?
post #10 of 28

Utah rules

Canyons, people are being mean to you and I don't know why! I skied in Utah last year for the first time, and it was awesome. Here's what I think, based on my skiing experience in the Northeast U.S., Austria, and Utah.

Alta is god. Notice how if you add an "r" to Alta, it becomes altar. Coincidence? I think not. Folks on this forum have suggested that mere intermediates (like me) cannot take full advantage of Alta, and thus should not go. They are just plain dumb. Alta is the most beautiful place I've skied, you can choose easy, groomed stuff, or go for the ungroomed, off piste, stuff I can't ski yet. As I've told my boyfriend, if Alta were a man, I would marry him. Every skier must ski Alta.

The Canyons and Deer Valley were okay. I skied DV one day and I won't go back except for the food. Canyons was great. But why would you ski the Canyons when you could ski Alta???????

I skied in Lech, Austria a couple of years ago and it was beautiful and I plan to go back. But I have to say that aside from the lack of European ambiance, I liked Alta better.

Do you, Alta, take this woman, Ice Queen, as your lawful wedded wife?

I do.

Do you, Ice Queen, take this mountain, Alta, as your lawful wedded ski area?

I do.
post #11 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Queen
Do you, Alta, take this woman, Ice Queen, as your lawful wedded wife?

I do.

Do you, Ice Queen, take this mountain, Alta, as your lawful wedded ski area?

I do.
You may now carve the groom!
post #12 of 28
Miss the groom?

My list is simple:

Alta - 10 in everything that matters.

All others - less than 10.
post #13 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnarlito
You may now carve the groom!
that was awesome, gnarlito. Thanks for the laugh.
post #14 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquidnails
that was awesome, gnarlito. Thanks for the laugh.
Hey, my hat goes off to any gal who takes Alta as her lawfully wedded ski area. Too much!
post #15 of 28
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lars
Guess you haven't been anywhere but Utah huh?
No. I grew up, and currently live in the East 300 days/yr. I have skied Stowe, MRG, Jay, Smugglers Notch, Killington, Hunter, Whiteface, Gore and some areas in NJ and PA. I have had my fill of boiler plate, fog and sub zero skiing. I no longer ski in the east. I have also done my share of skiing in CO (Winter Park, Vail, Beaver Creek, Aspen and Aspen Highlands) and Europe (A, CH, D). I chose to render my opinion regarding areas in Utah because I consider it to be the best skiing in the country. Using my system above, I will rate what I consider to be the best areas in the east as follows:

MRG: Challenge=8; Steepness=7; Terrain=7; Snow=4; BC Access=N/A; Crowds=5; Access=5; Amenities=5

STOWE: Challenge=7; Steepness=7; Terrain=6; Snow=5; BC Access=3; Crowds=4; Access=6; Amenities=7

JAY: Challenge=7; Steepness=7; Terrain=8; Snow=8; BC Access=7; Crowds=5; Access=2; Amenities=3
post #16 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Queen
Canyons, people are being mean to you and I don't know why! I skied in Utah last year for the first time, and it was awesome. Here's what I think, based on my skiing experience in the Northeast U.S., Austria, and Utah.

Alta is god. Notice how if you add an "r" to Alta, it becomes altar. Coincidence? I think not. Folks on this forum have suggested that mere intermediates (like me) cannot take full advantage of Alta, and thus should not go. They are just plain dumb. Alta is the most beautiful place I've skied, you can choose easy, groomed stuff, or go for the ungroomed, off piste, stuff I can't ski yet. As I've told my boyfriend, if Alta were a man, I would marry him. Every skier must ski Alta.

The Canyons and Deer Valley were okay. I skied DV one day and I won't go back except for the food. Canyons was great. But why would you ski the Canyons when you could ski Alta???????

I skied in Lech, Austria a couple of years ago and it was beautiful and I plan to go back. But I have to say that aside from the lack of European ambiance, I liked Alta better.

Do you, Alta, take this woman, Ice Queen, as your lawful wedded wife?

I do.

Do you, Ice Queen, take this mountain, Alta, as your lawful wedded ski area?

I do.
My feelings exactly. I like to go other places, and enjoy any day when I am skiing, but I always feel like I missed a day at Alta if I ski anywhere else. There is just something that feels right about it that I can't describe.
post #17 of 28
the fact that you care about this obnoxiously pitiful subject and its ridiculous numeric presentation while people are dying in New Orleans and the Gulf area is reprehensible.

but please,

go ahead and ignore your fellow humans' suffering, since it's not affecting you directly.
post #18 of 28
Thread Starter 
It's a ski forum, you idiot. Some people actually visit to take their mind off of the rigors of the world. Why, do you think that you are better than everyone else? You are such a condescending bastard. You leave a bad taste in my mouth. No wonder why you were suspended last year!
post #19 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canyons
It's a ski forum, you idiot. Some people actually visit to take their mind off of the rigors of the world. Why, do you think that you are better than everyone else? You are such a condescending bastard. You leave a bad taste in my mouth. No wonder why you were suspended last year!
and you?

what is your point here?

oh you haven't one, have you?

since when is it condescending to ask for compassion for your fellow human?

man,

you are one egocentric ******r.
post #20 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
the fact that you care about this obnoxiously pitiful subject and its ridiculous numeric presentation while people are dying in New Orleans and the Gulf area is reprehensible.

but please,

go ahead and ignore your fellow humans' suffering, since it's not affecting you directly.
Come on Gonzo. Lighten up. Do you realize how hypocritical you are by logging on to this board, reading this post, and replying to the post? Shouldn't you be worrying about those folks down in the bayou instead of selfishly wasting time on a ski forum?
post #21 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
the fact that you care about this obnoxiously pitiful subject and its ridiculous numeric presentation while people are dying in New Orleans and the Gulf area is reprehensible.

but please,

go ahead and ignore your fellow humans' suffering, since it's not affecting you directly.
You're right, it is ridiculous that we spend time on a frivolous web forum while people are suffering and dieing. Iraq, Sudan, the Gulf Coast, and many other places are in horrible states. We need to do what we can. If I could, I would get in there and help in any way I could, but I can't. New Orleans is 2800 miles from me, so the best I can do is go to work, make money, and give to relief efforts. After that it's part of the human tragic comedy that I will have time to write meaningless drivel to post on the internet while feeling helpless to make a specific contribution.

Where do we draw the line? Is it not OK to yak about what we think of ski areas but it's good to sit in front of the TV watching images of destruction over and over again dwelling on the tragedy of life? I say do what you can to help and then live your life.

Here's a challenge to all of you out there in cyberland. Give up one ski trip this season. Go to a local place instead. Donate what you would have spent on that trip to flood relief. I plan to do this today or tomorrow.
post #22 of 28
And I thought there was too much bitching in my fantasy baseball leaugue.
post #23 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbgarrett
My feelings exactly. I like to go other places, and enjoy any day when I am skiing, but I always feel like I missed a day at Alta if I ski anywhere else. There is just something that feels right about it that I can't describe.
Funny, I feel the same way about Mammoth.
post #24 of 28

Warning!!!

this is a skiing forum.
you run the risk of seeing ski-related questions and comments here. do not be alarmed.

repeat: this is a SKIING forum.

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____________________

In my limited experience...

Challenge: Mammoth

Terrain: Mammoth

Steepness: Mammoth

BC Access: N/A

Snow: Alta

Access: Utah ski areas

Crowds: Grand Targhee

Amenities: Deer Valley

post #25 of 28

Back to the point...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnarlito
Hey, my hat goes off to any gal who takes Alta as her lawfully wedded ski area. Too much!
Thanks! And I have carved the groom, he actually encouraged it, and he's so into it that he wants it all the time. This is usually just great with me, but sometimes I'm a little tired, or I have a headache. He's very understanding though...

If Cbgarrett feels this way about Mammoth, then I darn well need to go to Mammoth soon. Just don't tell Alta.
post #26 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesB
Funny, I feel the same way about Mammoth.
Everyone should feel that way about some place in the world. I have heard mammoth is great. Hope to ski it someday.
post #27 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
the fact that you care about this obnoxiously pitiful subject and its ridiculous numeric presentation while people are dying in New Orleans and the Gulf area is reprehensible.

but please,

go ahead and ignore your fellow humans' suffering, since it's not affecting you directly.

GONZOSTRIKE:
Clout = 2
Sanctimoniousness = 8
Political Acumen = 7
Skiing Knowledge = N/A (Insuffient Data)
Decorum = :
Verbal Incontinence = 10 (to the 8th power) *
Pharisaicalness = 9
Vitriol = 10 *

*ratings may vary with %B.A.C or recent successful bowel movement.


Quote:
Originally Posted by xdog1
No, it's time to stop being such a tool.
XDOG:
Relevance = 8
Demureness = :
Perspicacity = 10
Skiing Knowledge = 9
Banality = 1
Cogency = 10

(Thesaurus.com was consulted for occasional spelling accuracy only)


post #28 of 28

Ratings

Quote:
Originally Posted by carvemeister
GONZOSTRIKE:
Clout = 2
Sanctimoniousness = 8
Political Acumen = 7
Skiing Knowledge = N/A (Insuffient Data)
Decorum = :
Verbal Incontinence = 10 (to the 8th power) *
Pharisaicalness = 9
Vitriol = 10 *

*ratings may vary with %B.A.C or recent successful bowel movement.




XDOG:
Relevance = 8
Demureness = :
Perspicacity = 10
Skiing Knowledge = 9
Banality = 1
Cogency = 10

(Thesaurus.com was consulted for occasional spelling accuracy only)


Carvemeister:

Vocabulary: 10
Jocoseness: 9
Opprobrium: 10
Aplomb: 10
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