Originally Posted by Ghost
I'm not so sure the original post was referring to ''you fall you die" terrain. I was trying to speak to the original post. However, I like the "you fall you die" part of your definition of "extreme".
BTW a chute that requires course corrections taken at high speed qualifies under that definition, whereas that same chute taken at slow speed with knowledge of self-arrest does not.
Where does "you fall - you get seriously mangled, but live " fall into your definitions of skiing?
Would the short video of the backflip 80-foot drop count as extreem? (probably not; it's survivable with that powder and slope)
Ghost, the "you fall you die" terrain is true extreme skiing. The risks are tremendous. This spring and summer, I skied steep terrain that terminates in talus and boulders, that would do a lot of damage if you fell. Steep enough that I could not walk up the snow fields without crampons, or digging in toe steps, and the rock at the edges was too steep to climb. (Ever slid down a scree slope?) To me, steep is OK, as long as I have my feet on the ground, and a good edge. But to risk life and limb for a skiing aerial stunt is beyond my ability and comprehension. I see it in the films and wonder...How? Why? Who would do this?
That was my original thought in posting this thread. There is something innate in my psyche that will not allow me to drop over an unseen edge, even though I know it is doable (is that a word?). I have launched the 10 to 15 foot drops onto soft powder where I am very familiar with the terrain, but I have trouble followng a buddy over an unknown edge, even though he makes it. So, I am a coward when it comes to free-fall.
I remember as a kid, my friends and I would climb a tree onto a neighbor's garage, and dare each other to drop off. The ground sloped from one end to the other. I remember it was pretty easy to drop the north end of the garage, but you just about swallowed your knees to drop the south end. That was about 15 feet on flat. The idea of launching a 20 foot air at my age is simply incomprehensible. So, I guess I started the thread to try and better comprehend how the average skier is working up to bigger challenges. As the thread progressed, I got comfortable with the idea that perhaps we can be extreme in our own mind; and let it go at that.