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post #31 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
what color duct tape?

traditional grey?

new neon?

camo tough guy?

fashion pastels?
Hmmm,

Traditional grey, with a few splashes of blood red (tape, not natural) would make a perfect slopeside fashion comment for me.
post #32 of 52
EMS Gore-Tex xcr Summit Parka -- it's big and burly, good for northeast freezes, but sadly no longer made.
post #33 of 52
Arc'teryx Sidewinder and Theta shells.
post #34 of 52

soft shell vs gore tex - breathability?

I second nomination for Patagonia White Smoke soft shell - it is UNBelievably breathable. It is not a laminate or membrain type soft shell providing it the great breathability but still has great water repellency and wind protection. Take it from a guy whose elbows sweat in his Hyvent or Goretex jackets. :-)
I agree it should have larger zippers to grasp, and possibly a pit-zip for the really warm days where you don't want it's insulating properties closed around you (not to be confused with breathability).

With that said, from my perspective, Goretex is just like a garbage bag with respect to being breathable, even the latest 3rd generation is still something like <8% breathable (ie: 92% waterproof).

What are other peoples experience with other softshells and their breathability? I would be especially interested in those that are the WindStopper (I believe use a membrain/laminate) or other similar ones. What other brands are non-membrain?

thanks.
Guy
post #35 of 52
Soooo.

Not one of you (except wbroun?) use a looong coat, one that stretches to below the bum, with integral powder skirt?

Looking to replace my ~2000 HH Equipe (Schoeller with the Keprotec shoulder pads).

It needs to be insulated enough for Quebecois cold; not down fill but perhaps just short of it.

I have shells already.
post #36 of 52
Somewhat unrelated, but has anyone tried soft shell or hybrid soft/hard shell pants for skiing? A lot of the climbing / backcountry stuff looks good but some of it doesn't seem like it would be suitable for even lift serviced skiing.
post #37 of 52
I use a Volkl Team jacket.
I also have a Fila softshell. It's the same model used by the the Italian ski team. Those guys are using it almost all the time (except for very cold days).

The difference between the jacket and the softshell as far as breathability goes is big. the latter is far more breathable. In July i was on a glacier in Austria and on the first day i used my jacket and i overheated and on the second day i used the softshell and it was a dream. It's probably true. A softshell can be worn in 80%of the weather conditions encountered in outdoor sports.

Yes the Windstopper is a membrain. My Fila softshell jacket is made from Schoeller fabric so it does not have a membrain/laminate.
post #38 of 52
DNA Shell. Bombproof with great pit zips and venting. Great at -25 F on Whiteface with 50 MPH winds with a 200 weight fleece underneathe, and great at Squaw with pit zips open when its 35 F and sunny (and feels like 70 F to an eastern skier).

Onley negative: The durability adds a bit O weight to the shell.
post #39 of 52
I mix it up Patagonia Primo Gortex XCR Shell and North Face Pamir WindStopper Fleece jacket.
post #40 of 52
Interesting posts. Not ot hijack, but what soft shells are you using. I have an Arc' Gamma SV and love it but I was wondering what others may have?
post #41 of 52
Finndog, is the Gamma SV warm enough to use over just a base layer? Or do you need to use an outer shell over it?
post #42 of 52
My groovy new Marmot soft shell is coming apart. First it was the drawstrings, then a zipper went. Seams are probably next- very dissapointing after only two months!
My seven year old Patagucci Storm- from the outlet store, $120,- is still bombproof. I replaced the velcro on the cuffs last year. It's faded and stained, but hell. And now, pumpkin orange is back in fashion!
post #43 of 52
Wow surprised to hear that your Marmot fell apart so fast. I have a Marmot vest that I love. It is my favorite. It has been good to me so far. It is warm and attractive.

As for my ski jacket I have both a Colombia jacket and shell. I never get cold.
post #44 of 52
Mr Crab,

Send it back! That is total bull$hit.

If they don't fix it, call your congressman.
post #45 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex
Soooo.

Not one of you (except wbroun?) use a looong coat, one that stretches to below the bum, with integral powder skirt?
My Rossi jacket is below the bum. I prefer those. They just work better in rain, and rain's when you really need all that functionality that you've paid for.
post #46 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Crab
My groovy new Marmot soft shell is coming apart.
yes, after wearing a Marmot goretex shell as a uniform, I sure wouldn't be paying the big bucks for that brand. At all. It was like wearing a wettex, and it was coming apart badly.
In fact, some instructor felt so strongly about these dilapidated old wrecks, that they regularly went through the locker room and cut the cuffs off them (we didn't have lockers, so they were hung up on one big rack).
post #47 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris719
Finndog, is the Gamma SV warm enough to use over just a base layer? Or do you need to use an outer shell over it?
I can ski in it down to 25F or so. I wear a Arc' base shirt and thin mid-base. Wear it under a shell and your good for real cold weather.
post #48 of 52
http://www.hellyhansen.com/SS05/index_flash.html this is what i use here on the East Coast. I have fallen in love with HH stuff. good with under armor, and mid layer to about 0. and with nothing(t-shirt) i have worn is up to 40.
post #49 of 52
Does anyone ever look at www.trailspace.com for gear reviews on these items? If yes, what do you think of their usefulness?
post #50 of 52
Elk, great site, thanks!
post #51 of 52

clarification

So, is WINDSTOPPER Goretex - and thus not as breathable as other non-membrain soft shells?

-Guy
post #52 of 52
Marmot ignored my e-mails. I guess they were very good once and they're cruising on their rep. Patagonia, on the other hand, has offered more than once to replace a beloved piece that I legitimately wore out, but as long as I have a needle and thread and duct tape, it's my baby.
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