Beta on GT
Originally Posted by spindrift
Next time you are there, check out the model in the main motel lobby. The physical characteristics of the base area will change completely over the next 10+ years. Just about every single building will end up being bulldozed (many should already have been put out of their misery....). They will be building a large pond, real base village, muliti-story parking structure, and many, many condos & houses. Virtually all units will be ski out/in courtesy of access lifts on the low ridge crests. I seem to remember an on-mountain restaurant as well. New lifts will serve what has been the cat-skiing area - good thing if you ask me. Actually, anyone know when those lifts will open for real? Targhee is family owned (by the former owners of Vail) and at least so far, the resort claims they will keep the current family oriented atmosphere and friendly pricing intact.
I'm surprised at the comments about Targhee only being worth a couple day stay. Some things are limited/quirky, but there is plenty of fine skiing to be had. I'd definitely ski a week at Targhee before I'd spend a week at Sun Valley. Just me though...
Another thing that has surprised me - no mention on their website of the expansion plans. Anyone know why? My understanding is that all the land swap and initial permmit stuff cleared a year ago.
Yes the land swap went through. I wouldn't hold my breath for any big changes real soon. I'm betting on 4-5 years from now we'll see some new buildings.
Yeah the future of Targhee's base looks somewhat similar to Pig Sty or the CanYawns. Fire pits, courtyards, 800+ rooms (hotel and condos), trophy homes, underground parking, etc. I believe that every existing building will be torn down and replaced (with the exception of the wastewater treatment building). Yes, catskiing will end with the addition of the new lifts over on Peaked. Currently the build-out plan is at the Teton Co. WY P&Z for review, comment, and (hopefully for GT) a recommendation for approval. It then goes to the County Commisioners for approval. Several issues need to be addressed: employee housing, height restrictions, "dark sky" requirements, impact on Teton Co. ID, open space, etc.
So, in the mean time several things will probably happen prior to the bulldozers coming in. It has become painfully obvious that something needs to be done with the Shoshone lift. Rumors are that GT will pull out the fixed grip quad and put in a detachable quad, moving the base of the lift another 75 yards down the hill, to be at the same elevation as Parking Lot #3 and to get a much better skier traffic flow. Also they are looking at replacing the Blackfoot double chair with a detachable quad that would run to the very top of Chief Joe Bowl, slightly to the "climbers right" of the existing lift, but they are having siting issues with the winds. They are also looking a putting a lift in out in the "North" area. The lift would run from Rick's Basin (where the existing cross-country trails are) and run up to somewhere above the Lost Warrior run. Lastly, (and probably the last lift on Fred's Mountain), there will be a lift from the bottom of the Patrol/Instructor Chutes area to somewhere below the Summit on Teton Vista Traverse (the top of the "Happy Hunting Grounds"). All of these are in the Master Plan that has already been approved by the Forest Service, so there's no issue with putting them in, other than money, and cost effectiveness. Look for the new Shoshone lift prior to any build out.
Most of the runs have already been cut over on Peaked and quite a bit of grading has been done, all in accordance with the Master Plan. No foundations have been placed for the lift towers though.
Yes there will be a mid-mountain resturaunt over on the top of "Lightning", which is currently in the catskiing area, south of the "Northern Lights" run.
Also, keep in mind that management is probably not going to want to spend too much money on buildings that they are planning to tear down. So look for very few, if any, upgrades to the facility infrastructure.
When the condo's and trophy lots do go on sale, look for a land rush similar to when Tamarack made their first offering. I believe they sold $32M of real estate in 4 hours.
Lastly, none of you really want to come to "Grand Foggee". The sun never shines, the views suck, they only groom 10% of the hill, it's considered a fogged in bunny hill by most, it has very little expert skiing, no night life, the skinniest ski they rent has a 77mm waist, it's hard to get to, their snow moisture content averages around 8% so it's very hard for the groomers to mash it out and make corduroy out of it, and all the locals are on Explosiv's or Gotama's. You really want to go to Summit County or Lake Tahoe.