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post #31 of 49
This is scary. The predictions today -- from oil and gas industry insiders -- in that retail gasoline will reach the $4.00 per gallon range before prices start dropping. That's definitely going to make me rethink where and how often I ski.

On a positive note, I can see the ski areas that are normally crowded mob-scenes on the weekends being a lot less crowded with far fewer day trippers due to high fuel costs. These are usually the areas closer to the big cities. So, what once was considered a no-go because of crowds might get a second look from me if it's close by.
post #32 of 49
Nice of checkraser to defend our primitive driving culture here in Europa. Here in Finland we pay about 6USD/Gallon. I try to drive as little as possible and I usually get away with only one refill/week. Thats about 80-90USD. My car is also a very economical little car with only a 1.4 ltr engine.
post #33 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdk6
Nice of checkraser to defend our primitive driving culture here in Europa. Here in Finland we pay about 6USD/Gallon. I try to drive as little as possible and I usually get away with only one refill/week. Thats about 80-90USD. My car is also a very economical little car with only a 1.4 ltr engine.
As Americans we're used to the 5 ltr and bigger motors. Lot's of boats, horse trailers, race cars and stuff to tow... We're going to have a hard time adjusting to to the smaller cars, but it makes sense. It's crazy when you look over and see kids driving around in Hummers.
post #34 of 49

Driving in Europa

Look at the future of driving: http://www.smartcar-owner.co.uk/brief_model_details.htm
post #35 of 49
Ill take mine with a 120 hp lol(to bad those cars will never pass USA safety standards).

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...rDetected=True I wish i could get this with AWD,in a wagon, with a 6speed manual.
post #36 of 49
back on thread,

This might be the final straw to bridging the gap between Ski Instructors being paid "piecegoods" versus "Hourly".

For fifty years or more the instructor's split on a lesson was such that teaching one or two lessons each day at a decent % still meant you made more than 8 hours at minimum wage.

Currently many ski areas still pay only for the actual lesson teaching hours, but are paying at minimum wage for those hours. Meaning if you only taught one two hour lesson you would only get paid $10.30 (New York and some other states have even higher minimums than $5.15 /hr.)

Federal wage hour labor law dictates that if you are scheduled to work and you show up, your employer MUST pay you the equivqalent of fours hours at minimum wage.

I live an equidistant trip on the other side of the mountain from Ron White and at the current IRS rate of $.39/mile $20.60/day would not cover my trip after taxes.

80 miles @ 27 mpg x $4.00/gal = :

Hey Boss, you gotta guarantee me more than two lessons a day or I can't come to work.
post #37 of 49
I'm with you there, Stache
post #38 of 49
I had already cut my personal fuel consumption by 80% over last year. I have now canceled my labor day driving plans. All of this will probably mean that I teach only two days a week.

I will teach at a resort slightly further from me. The close resort will have more skiers and fewer instructors. The ratio of students to skiers is already 20:1 at that resort. I just don't feel like teaching under those conditions. I know real wages adjusted for inflation have gone down 200% at that resort. I have no reason to believe that they will increase wages to get more instructors. Many instructors are bailing now not because of wage but because of teaching conditions. The price of gas along with a cheap seasons pass price can only mean fewer instructors this year.
post #39 of 49

Cheap Gas Websites

Here are 2 good cheap gas websites:

www.GasBuddy.com

* Seems to have more frequently updated prices and a broader selection but this may vary depending upon location so check both websites.

* Shows trends in Unleaded Gasoline Average Prices section which compares your city to total U.S. or Canada for Today, Yesterday, One Week Ago, One Month Ago, One Year Ago.

* Also trends shown graphically for up to 3 areas in Price Charts/Pump Price Graphs section with charts for 1 months, 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 1 year, 18 months, 2 years, and 3 years

* Search by Area, Station or Prices in last 60 hours, 48 hours, 24 hours, 12 hours, 8 hours, 4 hours.

* Shows only Regular or Diesel not Mid or Premium gas prices


www.GasPriceWatch.com

* Shows Regular, Mid, Premium and Diesel gas prices

* Gas Gap section shows U.S. Highest Price, US Average and US Lowest Price

* Search by Intersection, Zip Code, Station, Latitude/Longitude



As of 9/1 the highest price was $4.50 in Chamblee, GA; the US average was $3.05 and the lowest price was $2.35 in Buffalo, WY
post #40 of 49
Nothing will kill the love affair with internal combustion transportation. Nothing.
post #41 of 49
Anyone in Denver know if the Commerce City refinery is still open? Last I heard the new owners were shutting it down.
post #42 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by oboe
Nothing will kill the love affair with internal combustion transportation. Nothing.
you got that right, br'er oboe. absolutely.

the most positive thing our culture can do is to move toward greater efficiency on average, and toward biodiesel where feasible.

I'm already working on figuring out how to start making more $$ so I can get a diesel vehicle to convert to biodiesel. so what if I'm only one person among millions. at least I'll be contributing to the solution and not the problem.

meanwhile,

I'm driving a whole lot less and just cancelled my weekend plan to drive to Fernie BC for some lift-assist MTB riding. that hurts, baby. hurts bad.
post #43 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
I'm already working on figuring out how to start making more $$ so I can get a diesel vehicle to convert to biodiesel. so what if I'm only one person among millions. at least I'll be contributing to the solution and not the problem.
I have a diesel and they are very expensive to maintain. So much so that I am not convinced on the true viability of bio diesel yet.

The only real source at this point seems to be converted vegetable oil. In our area those sources are already totally spoken for as a bio diesel source. Your conversion will certainly cost you more than a gas burner.
post #44 of 49
Pierre, I was watching a report on BBCWorld yesterday about an oil (animal and vegetable) conversion plant in Scotland which, when mixed with diesel will run in unconverted cars.
Here's the company...
http://www.argentenergy.com/
post #45 of 49
lots of articles here in the US (including a mention on Paul Harvey news today) about bio diesel conversions running on restaurants old deep fry oil. Gives new meaning to stopping at McD's to eat and get "gas".
post #46 of 49
We export lots of refined oil products to the US so this will be a big boost for our refinerys.

Gas prices are pushing way over 6USD here and are predicted to brake 7USD by sunday. However, since the gas price was high to start with, 5,5USD, we are not so devastated.
post #47 of 49
Petrol has been hovering at around a dollar a litre for quite some time. Since the barrell prices started to climb, it's gone up to 1.30. And it's going to keep it up.
post #48 of 49
I just thought I'd revive this old thread and say, Paul Jones called it in August, 2005 when $4.50 seems like an extravagant price for fuel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron White View Post
8-31-05
Gas went up from $2.69.9 to $3.18.9 during the day with $2.99.9 at lunch time. Glad I filled up yesterday, but next time, ouch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Prices are going to go a lot higher. The ski areas are going to have a problem with energy costs as well. In 18 mo, maybe $4.50 per gallon. I won't be surprised. Then there is the ripple effect as businesses get the squeez. We're all gona die and then we won't be skiing.
post #49 of 49
new reality time, its a matter of adjustment. It will be interested to see how resorts that are using wind/solar fare with others who are not.
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