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post #31 of 50
Is any terrain on the front four groomed? I know one of the trails (I forget which - Goat maybe?) has never seen a groomer and never will.
post #32 of 50
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Originally Posted by learn2turn
The blues on Mansfield though are a heck of a lot steeper than blues at most other NE mountains. If you rated Mansfield like Sunday River, most of those blues would be black. There would only be like three blues on Mansfield.
So would any terrain at SR be comparable to Stowe in difficulty?

Are doubles at SR like Icaramba and Shockwave equal to blacks at Stowe?

I have never skied Stowe but would like to head up there this winter.

Obviously the Front Four are some of the most difficult in the Northeast but I am talking about Stowe's other runs.
post #33 of 50
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RiDeC58
I think Stowe is a great place too, but I do have one criticism. There is very little terrain to challange an aggressive, improving skier who is not yet up to skiing "The Front Four". If you check the trail map, you will notice that there are VERY FEW single Black Diamond trails. Really only one or so on each section of the mountain and they only run the top half of the mountain then turn blue. There is sig more Double Black terrain and the majority is Blue. So if you are not really ready to swallow up those ultra steep bumps on Goat/Starr etc., there is precious little to challenge you. Its just "Blue Heaven" for the most part.
On a good day, if you ski one side of the Liftline it's like a black. … … BTW i read the wrong number of their website, its 2360' not 3600'
post #34 of 50
Thread Starter 
The Goat is most definetly not groomed its as I would say "all natural" and probably the most challenging trail on the Mtn. You are thinking of the Liftline, sometimes they groom it. BTW a Snow-Cat would not fit on the Goat.
post #35 of 50
Stowe is ok, I learned to ski bumps there so I have respect....
post #36 of 50
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Originally Posted by Scalce
So would any terrain at SR be comparable to Stowe in difficulty?
90% of the single blacks at SR would be blue at Mansfield. 50-75% of the blues at mansfield would be black at SR.

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Originally Posted by Scalce
Are doubles at SR like Icaramba and Shockwave equal to blacks at Stowe?
Depends on the double. The wide doubles at SR and Stowe are much closer in comparison than the blacks. The steep part on National at Stowe would be comparible to the steep part of White Heat. The two narrow natural doubles at Stowe- Goat and Starre don't really have direct comparisons at SR. The closest thing might be steeper double-black glades. The only narrow windy trails at SR are the little pieces on Locke like Upper Cut. Stare and Goat are steeper, much much much longer.


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Originally Posted by Scalce
I have never skied Stowe but would like to head up there this winter.
Scale hasn't skied Stowe yet????? You don't know what you are missing.
Go when the natural snow is good and it's not crowded (weekday or get out at 7:30AM).

Don't miss--

Starre, if it's not open from the top, head down National a bit and then bang a right thru the woods.

Goat, if it's not open from the top, head down LiftLine and where you have to make a right onto a wide trail, just go straight.

These are known cut thrus for when the very top is closed. I'm not giving away secrets (I wouldn't do that in a public forum).

For open steep, don't miss the other two on the Front Four, National and Liftline.

Off the gondi, don't miss Chinclip.

Then ski whatever suits you. Try a variety of the blacks and blues. Come home sore with a s$#-eating grin.

But don't believe anything I post. Like I said. Stowe sucks. Go to Okemo or Killington
post #37 of 50
Stowe is a great mountain, just not worth passing Mad Rver Glen and Sugarbush for. At least for me, it is not.
post #38 of 50
Don't like the gondola at Stowe. It goes to no where. Never skied Spruce.

I have a friend (one). He talks about the woods at Stowe and climbing. Anyone ski the woods at Stowe?
post #39 of 50
They often groom National and the other one (liftline?). Goat and starr are very narrow at the top... nice after fresh snowfall though. Top of Starr IMO is scary!
Single blacks... Nosedive is a treat, and there's a big fat run that goes right down the middle front of Mansfield that's black, sometimes groomed and sometimes not and I cannot remember the name! It actually gets steeper as it goes down (not the main blue, it's the black skiier's left of it).
Chinclip off the gondola is another worthwhile blackish run, it bumps up a bit which is why it's black. Not skiied a lot though, so often the snow's in better nick.
Spruce has some excellent skiing, and as they put in the new lifts it'll lose its seldom-skiied charm. When the cover's good, there's some really nice blues and blacks off there, and it's all treed and very pretty (and quiet).

Stowe has a lot of good trees. Some nice open ones around the Tollroad side (bushy ones at the top and then opening out as you go down), and off Nosedive heading towards the Gondola has some more good ones. They are marked on the map, too.
And if you are lucky you will see Ermines.
post #40 of 50
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Originally Posted by ant
Nosedive is a treat, and there's a big fat run that goes right down the middle front of Mansfield that's black, sometimes groomed and sometimes not and I cannot remember the name! It actually gets steeper as it goes down (not the main blue, it's the black skiier's left of it).
Would that be Lookout?

Stowe is great but I need someone to show me some more tree runs. Any volunteers out there? I'm not asking you to tell your secrets online, just meet me for a tour this winter.
post #41 of 50
yeah, I think it was lookout... my memory is woeful sometimes. I can visualise the whole lot... there's two of them from the top, and then you can head down onto the really wide steep bit, or veer right onto Lord/north slope.

Get someone to you up onto the Nose or the Chin! then you get all sorts of excitement (and even the odd dead moose).
post #42 of 50
"He talks about the woods at Stowe and climbing. Anyone ski the woods at Stowe?"

I skied at Stowe for three days last march. Skied on marked/groomed/inbounds trails about 30% of the time. There are great inbounds tree runs all over the place. There are great out of bounds tree runs that don't require much more than a short traverse. And there are great tree and above treeline runs that require climbing and or longer traverses. Check out some pics at http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...hlight=stow e
post #43 of 50
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Originally Posted by Springhill Crazie
Would that be Lookout?

Stowe is great but I need someone to show me some more tree runs. Any volunteers out there? I'm not asking you to tell your secrets online, just meet me for a tour this winter.
Springhill, I think the trail they are talking about is Hayride, it is to the skiers left of the main cruiser run that runs down from the top over to the triple chair side. I'd be glad to give you a tour of the woods if you'd like just can't do weekends and don't want to be there during them anyway. I don't care what type of conditions to ski on, ice probably would not be the best in the woods some are out of bounds with mild traverses, and hikes out i.e. skiing down along route 108 but there is some real interesting stuff. P.S. to others who have posted I believe Starr is at least 2-3 times as wide as Goat is ,but the top is a nice steep one to get into! PM if you want a tour some time.
post #44 of 50
Hayride, that's it.
post #45 of 50
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post #46 of 50
We got a bunch of that stuff in December 2003, before the Big Cold struck. it was waist high on me sometimes, but I'm short. magic.
post #47 of 50
Starr:

great shot. Send it in!
post #48 of 50
Gotta love Stowe. 1. It's a pretty mountain and town. 2. gets decent east coast snow. 3. Great trees to the left of Chin Clip (!) 3. Great bump runs all over. 4. Uninterupted 2000 ft verticle runs (and when they're bumpy-that's serious excercise). 5. Like most of Northern Vermont/ NH-a very high ratio of good skiers on the mountain (like Canon, MRG, Sugarbush, jay Peak etc).

Get's a little tight on a saturday-but that's par for the course. Stowe is part of that ring of great eastern places (the aforementioned MRG, 'Bush, Cannon, Smuggs, Jay Peak)--they're all good-frankly, as good as it gets this side of the States.

Go Stowe!

Liam
post #49 of 50
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Originally Posted by Springhill Crazie
Would that be Lookout?

Stowe is great but I need someone to show me some more tree runs. Any volunteers out there? I'm not asking you to tell your secrets online, just meet me for a tour this winter.
Hayride

Lookout is just as steep as Starr and constitutes the 5 in the "Front Five".

Wanna see some trees? Anything for a fellow Steelers fan.
post #50 of 50
Anything for a steelers fan?

Epic you might be my new best friend when i hit stowe again this year.
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