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Best SKi Binding

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
What would you folks say would be the best ski binding for the best value that can fit a ski with a 76mm waist? Heres a list of just a couple:

Rossignol Axium 200 X-Plate
Salomon S712
Marker M900
Marker M1000
...Or just any others...
post #2 of 27
the one that is the cheapest:
post #3 of 27
I wouldn't get into a Salomon unless it was a Driver series and I had some loctite.
post #4 of 27
What DIN do you need? From that list probably the Rossignol.
post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
I would probably ski on a 6-11 setting
The Rossi's were what I was thinking as well!
post #6 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alta Skier
I would probably ski on a 6-11 setting
The Rossi's were what I was thinking as well!
that's a big range? i meant his DIN setting!
post #7 of 27
I think that the rossi scratches and the look P seris are widly used for many applications
post #8 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alta Skier
I would probably ski on a 6-11 setting
The Rossi's were what I was thinking as well!
7-11 is where you'll find the gear review guides (along with a slurpee) and 911 is what you should call if the Din is not quite right.

OTOH, 6 is a little early for lifts and 11 is too early to quit for the day.

What was the question, again?
post #9 of 27
I don't know?
I just bought looks because (They LOOK cool) on my new skis
post #10 of 27
Many agree: Markers suck, Look/Rossi rocks. I like Salomon's, some don't.

Unfortunately, several companies are mounting Markers on their "system" skis. Some skis come without the binding, but not most.
post #11 of 27
I've always had Salomons because they were my first step in binding and they improved my life after those horrid cable bindings.

That being said, an old ski shop owner once told me to never spend money on anything but the cheapest binding as they all do the job. Naturally, I have ignored him and bought the best Salomons for years.
post #12 of 27
Any look/rossi pivot/axial. Not the axium. Get the real bottle heel version (either this years new version or last years). Pivot 12's are pretty cheap. 169 most places for the new PX12 Rossi's.
post #13 of 27
The best binding... The binding that is attached to your skis. A binding without skis I useless. Any will work. I like Salomon, or marker, or rossi/look, or tyrolia. When I look for skis now, I look for a SKI... regardless of what binding it requires. Recently though I have bought a lot of flat race stock skis and mounted Salomon bindings and race plates on them. I may add some Marker bindings into the mix though, out of necessity (Nordica). I think the salomon you listed is the highest DIN range bining. In my opinion the heel on the rossi/look sucks unless you go to a pivot heel - which I heard they were going to do away with... true? Good luck, have fun, get them installed by a certified technician and all that jazz, you know the drill (get it... drill).
Later
GREG
post #14 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
The best binding... The binding that is attached to your skis. A binding without skis I useless. Any will work. I like Salomon, or marker, or rossi/look, or tyrolia. When I look for skis now, I look for a SKI... regardless of what binding it requires. Recently though I have bought a lot of flat race stock skis and mounted Salomon bindings and race plates on them. I may add some Marker bindings into the mix though, out of necessity (Nordica). I think the salomon you listed is the highest DIN range bining. In my opinion the heel on the rossi/look sucks unless you go to a pivot heel - which I heard they were going to do away with... true? Good luck, have fun, get them installed by a certified technician and all that jazz, you know the drill (get it... drill).
Later
GREG

the pivot heel is no more, long live the pivot heel. The new heels are a little bit different, but they appear to be much the same animal, just "new and improved".
post #15 of 27
I guess I'll have to check out the Rossi site and give them a once over. Is it a similar system to the tyrolia heel... offering diagonal heel release?
Later
GREG
post #16 of 27
Thread Starter 
Why not the Axium?
post #17 of 27
The heel has always seemed cheaply built to me. If you take a look at it, there is much less metal present compared to the salomon heel of the same level. Rossi uses their high end toe for the axium, where Salomon uses their high end heel, and adds a different toe for upward release. Its personal preference though. I do however prefer the plate that the Salomon rides on over most anything else out there.
Later
GREG
post #18 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your help
post #19 of 27
A shop where I used to ski kept statistics on bindings that broke. I think, if I remember correctly, that Markers were way up there, and Salomons much lower. Of course they didn't have info on the relative number of each of these brands on the hill, but I bet most shop rats have an opinion on binding quality.
post #20 of 27
Thread Starter 
Being with what you all said I still am leaning pretty hard toward the Rossi Axium X 200 X-plate with DIN range of 3.5-11... Anything to sway my decision?
post #21 of 27
Cupolo has the Look P10 lifter binding for $129.00. It has a DIN of 3-10, it's blue and silver. This is the pivot heel binding.

http://www.cupolosports.com/20lop10libi1.html

Check to see if it will fit a 76mm ski.

: Barrettscv
post #22 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by glint
the pivot heel is no more, long live the pivot heel. The new heels are a little bit different, but they appear to be much the same animal, just "new and improved".
Care to explain? There was a pretty long thread here last spring talking about the death of the pivot heel in the Looks. Has that changed?

In my view, the pivot went away when it stopped being a full-rotation turntable...
post #23 of 27
Thread Starter 
What is so good about the Pivot heel, the Salomon Bindings I had before didnt have one and I loved them, I would have carried them on to my new skis but their brake doesnt fit a 76mm. I personally dont feel like I need the pivot heel.
post #24 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alta Skier
What is so good about the Pivot heel, the Salomon Bindings I had before didnt have one and I loved them, I would have carried them on to my new skis but their brake doesnt fit a 76mm. I personally dont feel like I need the pivot heel.
You may be able to order a pair of wide brakes for your Salomons (depending on what model they are), it would cost less than buying a new pair of bindings.
post #25 of 27
Thread Starter 
I think the binding is off the market. I got these skis from a friend who got them from a rental place, I've owned these bindings for 5+ yrs.
post #26 of 27
I prefer the built in ramp angle of the Rossi/Look Pivot binders. it puts me in a good fore/aft balance position.

I also prefer the toe and heel mechanisms of those binders. I can run lower DIN and because of the elasticity suffer no prereleases.

I don't have a quarrel with the other mfrs' binders, have used Salomon and Tyrolia binders before without problems, but the ramp angle and elasticity cinch the deal for me.
post #27 of 27
i love the marker N 0512 its great and its a really good high performence binding good din ( up to 12 or 14) at a good price (has piston )
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