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post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
I would love to have Terry join me/us at the ESA in Snowbird this year. However, she is hesitant based on her bias of "just want to have fun and not be all serious". So, I thought I'd come to you all for your thoughts.

Terry is a level 7-8 skier who took a decade off to have kids and home school them. I think part of the break was also because of getting hit from behind one too many times. I'm convinced the blond hair to the waist was a big part of the target (all the offenders were male), but, I digress...

Anyway, she started back up last year, skied the greens with the kids and me her first couple of times out, then skied blues with a couple of girlfriends her last time on snow last year. She got out 5 times.

We spoke tonight about the ESA in the context of talking about things we love to do together. She enjoys skiing and skiing with me. However, she sees the ESA as "serious" and being with a bunch of people she doesn't know and feeling out of place. Although Tim (who some of you met) and his wife Sabrina will be at the ESA this year, that has not tipped her over the edge... so...

Those of you who have attended with some trepidation, what would you tell Terry? What did you expect? How did it turn out? Were any of you (or your spouses) concerned it would be "too serious" and yet enjoyed it anyway? All thoughts and commentary welcome.

Thanks!
post #2 of 33
ssh, I see two issues here:
1. She is right (well, she is your wife, so, of course she is right!). No, what I mean is ESA is very serious. No laughs. Straight-faced. It's possibly the most dull and boring thing in the universe. That's why so many of us keep going back.
2. You are just scared - she might ski better than you and your big, slow B5s...
3. Is it sarcasm or irony that Americans don't get?

post #3 of 33
ssh
I was kind of scared to go last year. I am not skiing that long and I worried that I wouldn't fit in anywhere. I only knew one person before (Lisa) but everyone was very friendly. For some reason my husband (Larry) the snowboarder had a really great time. The skiing was a lot of fun. It was the opposite of serious-- at least our group. Because we were with a really good coach for a few days in a row the learning was more relaxed. I really didn't know how much I got out of it until afterwards. If your wife doesn't want to join a group she can always ski with Larry. He's not too bad for a snowboarder.
post #4 of 33
steve, see if you can get a copy of video shot of the "loose ladies" (er---I mean Perfect Curves) (Weems's group at ESA1)---show that to your wife and I bet she'll see that wonderful coaching can indeed be fun, racous, loud and entertaining while still being a serious and sucessful learning experience.
post #5 of 33
ssh, my wife has a very similar story, off for almost double your wife,however. I really want to attend this years esa and have "talked my wife into signing up also. She isn't that keen on the intenseness and says she will go only "if she can just ski and have fun". She is affraid,(concerned), that she will be expected to "jump off a cliff". I have raised this issue previously and you might check out the replies. http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=27126
Hope to see you and your wife at esa, and all the other bears. By the way this is only my 3rd season coming up and I am going cause I just don't know any better! Ha.:

Mark
post #6 of 33
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Mark, I went and read it and actually saw that I had posted on this issue there, too. Oops.

Thanks for the replies... Question for those of you who have replied here. It seems like many of you are really committed to "getting better". For Terry, she's comfortable with herself and where she is (she is definitely the most content person I know). How do you think someone who would largely be "just skiing" would fit into these groups? I wasn't focused on such things during ESA '05, since I was really trying to understand how to instruct students at these levels.

Thoughts?
post #7 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
ssh, I see two issues here:
1. She is right (well, she is your wife, so, of course she is right!). No, what I mean is ESA is very serious. No laughs. Straight-faced. It's possibly the most dull and boring thing in the universe. That's why so many of us keep going back.
2. You are just scared - she might ski better than you and your big, slow B5s...
3. Is it sarcasm or irony that Americans don't get?

Fox, that's three, not two.

It's irony.

Don't confuse sales with install. I'm trying to figure out how to guide her understanding. Actually, maybe all I need to do is tell her about this insane Irishman...
post #8 of 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_j
steve, see if you can get a copy of video shot of the "loose ladies" (er---I mean Perfect Curves) (Weems's group at ESA1)---show that to your wife and I bet she'll see that wonderful coaching can indeed be fun, racous, loud and entertaining while still being a serious and sucessful learning experience.
Hmmmm... Now, where might I find that?
post #9 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
ssh, I see two issues here:
1. She is right (well, she is your wife, so, of course she is right!). No, what I mean is ESA is very serious. No laughs. Straight-faced. It's possibly the most dull and boring thing in the universe. That's why so many of us keep going back.
2. You are just scared - she might ski better than you and your big, slow B5s...
3. Is it sarcasm or irony that Americans don't get?

couldn't have said it better myself, glad I didn't try.

bueno, Zorro.
post #10 of 33
ssh,

remind your lovely wife that someone can be serious about skiing and still fun to be around and ski with.

like yourself.
post #11 of 33
Thread Starter 
Of course, Gonz, but she'd be bored out of her skull to stand around and listen to technical conversations about skiing. And, she's worried that such is the case at ESA. Of course, I've told her my experience there with Nolo's group, but it's always worth getting additional input.

Except from Irishmen who live in England and ski on aircraft carriers.
post #12 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh

Quote:
Originally Posted by skier_j
steve, see if you can get a copy of video shot of the "loose ladies" (er---I mean Perfect Curves) (Weems's group at ESA1)---show that to your wife and I bet she'll see that wonderful coaching can indeed be fun, racous, loud and entertaining while still being a serious and sucessful learning experience.


Hmmmm... Now, where might I find that?
ssh,

I'll look tonight to see if we still have a copy. If I do, I'll suck it into the computer to send to you. More later (maybe)....
post #13 of 33
If not, I have a copy floating 'round somewhere!
post #14 of 33
Thread Starter 
Cool. I'd appreciate it!
post #15 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh
Except from Irishmen who live in England and ski on aircraft carriers.

Just give me an appropriate distraction...
post #16 of 33
She's your wife, she should do what you tell her.
post #17 of 33

Serious is Committing the time for an exceptional experience

SSH:

This will be my first ESA. I look forward to meeting you and your wife.

I think everyone who posts here understands that skiing is (FOR FUN) I guess it then depends on what your definition of fun is?

If the price of admission is not an issue, I don't see how you could go wrong.

Point out how you and she ski at different levels, therefore she will get to ski (Away from you) for 4 days.

EDIT
Having said all this, a four day ski camp is a pretty serious thing. I don't know you or your wife, but I don not think you should talk someone in to doing something like this. If the excitement and desire are not there, I would not push it. The difference between lift tickets and the instruction might be better spent on a cliff spa package? Let her have fun and relax (Her Way) then there is no pressure on anyone, and you both go to bed happy every night.

She will get to meet others in the evening, and may even look in on the instruction?

There is always next year?
post #18 of 33
ssh,

What I found was an old VHS of Harry Chapin I haven't seen in years, a Barefoot Intl instructional video, my VHS cleaner ...oh yeah, and about 15 minutes of Weems group skiing from the first ESA. If you'd like to see let me know, and I'll what I can do ...after watching the concert and getting a few refreshers from Mike Seipel before the weekend.....
post #19 of 33
Steve, a couple of questions for you:

Does Terry still have blond hair to the waist?

How do I choose which group I want to join?

post #20 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgeib
ssh,

What I found was an old VHS of Harry Chapin I haven't seen in years, a Barefoot Intl instructional video, my VHS cleaner ...oh yeah, and about 15 minutes of Weems group skiing from the first ESA. If you'd like to see let me know, and I'll what I can do ...after watching the concert and getting a few refreshers from Mike Seipel before the weekend.....
Absolutely! Will it play on the Mac?
post #21 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spyderjon
Steve, a couple of questions for you:

Does Terry still have blond hair to the waist?
Nope, much to my dismay! After three children, she decided it was just too much work... She's still gorgeous, though!

Quote:
Originally Posted by spyderjon
How do I choose which group I want to join?

Ummm... For that you need to talk to Nolo.
post #22 of 33
I am also attending for the first time this year and have very little interest in the technical aspect of skiing. I am just looking to improve. From what I saw of your group last year, everyone was having lots of fun. I look forward to meeting you again - and hopefully meeting your wife.
post #23 of 33
Thread Starter 
Terry and I had another conversation about this last night. Her fundamental concern: that she won't have fun and it'll just be too much work. She doesn't want to learn to ski steeps, impress anyone, or do anything other than "improve [her] form." She is also an introvert, especially around people she doesn't know.

So, those of you who share her temperament, what would you suggest I tell her?

Also, the rest of you, any thoughts?
post #24 of 33
Terry and wifey [Dr. Bigfoot] would get along quite well. At ETU [the first], wifey attended, and KAZZAM!! SHE HAD A BLAST! She also gained confidence, had MUCHO fun, and met people. She is a SERIOUSLY UNSERIOUS skier, and I have seen tortoises move more slowly than she moves on skis - but she still had fun with her really, really great coach, and her attendance is probably the one reason she continued to ski.
post #25 of 33
Steve -

Ask her if I wear my "I suck" shirt, will that prove that I'm just there to have fun???
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post #26 of 33
Hey Steve, put her in Ursula's group...if she can't have fun with Ursula, well....she could go shopping in SLC?
post #27 of 33
Hi Terry, my name is Cheryl and I am the spouse of mkevenson. This will be our first trip to Epic. It was ALL mark's idea and I wanted nothing to do with it. Oh I'd take the trip and spend the time in the spa but no............he REALLY wanted me to try it. I also am a SERIOUSLY UNSERIOUS skier....love to ski the groomers blues, once in awhile a black if it isn't to steep. I don't like blizzards and I don't intend to jump off of any cliffs or impress anyone. But I'm excited to be going as I love to ski and it is the only thing that at this point I can do better than my husband!!!! I'm looking forward to meeting new folks and socializing and oh yeah...skiing too.......but on my terms and I'm hoping I'll have fun. If not, you can find me in the spa or shopping!!!!!! And Terry, you can always join me there!!!!! Hope you will reconsider.:
post #28 of 33
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Originally Posted by FRAU
Ask her if I wear my "I suck" shirt, will that prove that I'm just there to have fun???
Frau, fill that cat's water dish!!
post #29 of 33
When I attended ESA, I really enjoyed the camaraderie of my group. We had a lot of fun and many laughs. In fact, while I improved my skiing, the people I met were the best part of ESA.

Of course, if your wife really doesn't want to go, I can definitely understand her position. Not everyone enjoys the intensity of having to take lessons every day. And, you did mention that she's content with her skiing, which is very cool. :
post #30 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnarlito
Frau, fill that cat's water dish!!
LOL - He HAS a full water dish - but he PREFERS the sink!

The little stinker beats me up the stairs to the bathroom and then stands there at the faucet and waits for me to turn it on. Who has WHO trained?


..... And now back to convincing Terry......
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