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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by Sphinx15
I am an advanced level skier looking for advice on purchasing a new all-mountain ski. I am 6', 185 lbs and ski in the East with at least one trip out west every year. I ski everything fast, and love the bumps and trees. I have been on the Volkl Vertigo Motions size 177 the last 3 seasons and have had my eye on the new Unlimited AC4's but I can't seem to find a good review on these yet. I have found that the Vertigo's simply can't cut it out West and I am pumped to see the 82mm waist of the Unlimiteds. That size also makes me somewhat concerned about how well this ski handles in the bumps and trees. I am pretty sure I want to stick with the 177 size (but am considering moving up to 184). Any reviews or comparisons between sizes or even other models would be very helpful. Thanks.
The 184cm AC4 would make an excellent east coast all around ski for someone of your size, if you are in shape. I think the 177 is too short. Hell, a friend of mine skied the 198 G4 for several years on the east coast, and he's about 190 lb. Keep in mind that they also offer a 191, so the 184 is not the biggest size. I'm a firm beliver that a full sized man at 180 lb+ (expert skier) should be pretty comfortable on the longest size available in virtually any modern ski, in most situations, with a few exceptions for excessively stiff or heavy skis only being suited for speed work.

Keep in mind that the AC4 is not a mogul ski. It's more towards a fat, detuned GS board. A strong skier your size will be able to rip bumps with a 184 pretty easily, but it isn't going do you any favors. The 177 will be easier, but will sacrifice top end stablity in crappy snow.

Also, I would look around at some of the offerings from other companies. To me, volkl's cap skis in general are too stiff for their length, and have a crappy feel to them - sort of glassy and chattery (torsion box), but dead inside with bad snow feel. I much perfer a metal sandwich laminate ski. But hey, if you like them, more power to you.
post #32 of 40
My hunch from reviews in places I trust is that the AC-4 may be a touch thick and strong for eastern bumps and gulleys. Ski patrol likes em that way because their skis are their office, and stability counts more than touch. (Or so said a Patrol Guy I met at Vail using Exploders on the front side. Urk.) But if I needed to cover both east and west with one ski, I'd think more about an 5*, which will be the friendliest Volkl on moguls, handle soft crud/light pow (think Ajax at Aspen or all of Squaw inbounds on a good day) better than the 6* (or I bet the Allstar), but carves hardpack as well below 35 mph. Not as sure on sheet ice. It'll handle pow up to the top of your boots nicely. You can get a new 04 for $600. Alternatively, the 04 RX8 (also unchanged this year) for down to $500 will give you more carve than the 5*, quicker lighter action in the bumps, higher speed limit, unexpected lift in light pow from the big shovel. Not a wet snow or crud ski IMO, through, so may be better in Colorado than California. Or if you like wider and damper, the 04 M666 - which I haven't skied yet - is said to be a wonderful all mountain, in a shorter length would work everywhere I bet, and again, about $250 less than this years with different paint. If you detect a pattern here, it's look for a great ski that hasn't changed this year, snap one up this fall while you can.
post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by beyond
But if I needed to cover both east and west with one ski, I'd think more about an 5*, which will be the friendliest Volkl on moguls, handle soft crud/light pow (think Ajax at Aspen or all of Squaw inbounds on a good day) better than the 6* (or I bet the Allstar), but carves hardpack as well below 35 mph. Not as sure on sheet ice. It'll handle pow up to the top of your boots nicely. You can get a new 04 for $600.
Silly epicski post of the week right there folks!!!
post #34 of 40
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
Silly epicski post of the week right there folks!!!
HS, instead of flaming someone, why not try and help?

HB
post #35 of 40
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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks
HS, instead of flaming someone, why not try and help?

HB
I helped about 5 posts ago.

That post about the 5 stars was SERIOUSLY misguided.
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by skibumnh
Im 5'10" 175 lbs, expert skier avg 40 days/season, split 50/50 between the East Coast and Alta.

My everyday ski is an 03/04 Dynastar Intuitiv 74 in a 175cm, and on powder days I ride an 04/05 Seth Pistol in a 179cm. Im looking to replace the dynastars with an AC4, but im really hung up on the length. My instinct is to grab the 177, but some of you guys out there with similar builds/skier types are running these in a 170. I cant stand trying to ski the pistols in east coast trees and bumps at their length (its totally draining), so I always resorted to the 74's but they dont float all that well in the deep. I guess what I want out of the AC4 is versatility, i want the quickest turn without giving up too much in terms of high speed carving stability.
I'm in a similar situation, except that I'm deciding between the AC4 in a 184 or a 177. I tried out the 724 Pro last year in both lengths and I preferred the 177. The 184 was super stable, but skied a little big for most conditions that a resort will thow at you. The AC4, though, is supposed to be turnier, quicker edge to edge, and I'm wondering if the 184 would be the right choice in this ski. My gut tells me to get the 177 because that's what I liked best for the 724Pro. But, I know that these skis are supposed to ski a bit differently and I don't want to sacrifice too much stability and crud-bust-ability as that's what I'm going to want to use this ski for most of the time (I have Superspeeds-175- for when I'm cruising).
post #37 of 40
I bought AC4s last Sunday. 177.
post #38 of 40
Carb.

Great choice. If you don't like em, call me, ok!
post #39 of 40
OK Paul! You got it.

Say hi to Jiminy.
I skied there many times as a young man. That would be years ago.
post #40 of 40

Volkl AC4

Hi

I bought the AC4's at end of season sale also in 177cm after buying 169cm Public Enemies
last year as my first Fat Skis. I am very impressed with the performance
of my Public Enemies but after trying the AC4 the Public Enemies now
feel too short in comparison. The AC4's are surprisingly easy to turn
considering the longer length and width. I am keen to try them on hard
snow which I will have to wait untill next season due to our poor season
here in New Zealand.

Peter
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