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post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
I want to know what you love or hate about Mammoth. What are the do not miss places to eat, drink, see, etc...? What should be avoided?

What are the conditions usually like at the end of Jan.? Favorite runs?

Well you guys get the picture. Thanks as always....

Here's our trip if your interested
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7hzxt/s...abtowneskiers/
post #2 of 27
There are no "do not miss" eats or drinks or sights in Mammoth. Only mediocre to bad. You may want to consider another place if you are looking for that sort of thing.
post #3 of 27
Good:

Mammoth has probably some of the best terrain in the country. Between the huge, wide open upper mountain and the treed lower mountain (best during storms), there is just about something for everybody. Snow is also quite good for the Sierras, and plentiful. Crowds are non-existent mid week.

Bad:

Upper mountain closes way too often (wind and/or new snow), leaving half the mountain closed during long periods of the Sierra's famous never ending storms. Until recently, the town was distinctly 60/70's non-retro. A new core is going up, but that area is surrounded by tons of 60's A frames that have not been updated since they were built. The place is also a zoo on weekends, so go mid-week.

Powdr
post #4 of 27
Hi Powdr! I just saw your post in "Surprises/Dissap."Thread wherein you state that Sugar Bowl is the BEST in Tahoe? Could you elaborate on SBowl, and what makes you not like the other as much? We're going there this Xmas/Jan.

You can e-mail if you'd prefer at: lavergne@verizon.net.do. Gracias! BTW, we are strong intermediates heavy on groomed steep/long runs.
post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesB
There are no "do not miss" eats or drinks or sights in Mammoth. Only mediocre to bad. You may want to consider another place if you are looking for that sort of thing.
Personally I'm going for the skiing..... I'm just looking for some good stuff so I can lure 20 more people to go with me. I also need to look like I know what I'm doing..... I am one of the trip leaders after all : )

Kidding aside... I need to convince at least 20 easterners it's worth it to go all that way. Otherwise it's a no go. Powdr... thanks for the good stuff.
post #6 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gpaul
Hi Powdr! I just saw your post in "Surprises/Dissap."Thread wherein you state that Sugar Bowl is the BEST in Tahoe? Could you elaborate on SBowl, and what makes you not like the other as much? We're going there this Xmas/Jan.

You can e-mail if you'd prefer at: lavergne@verizon.net.do. Gracias! BTW, we are strong intermediates heavy on groomed steep/long runs.
There are many things that make Sugar Bowl stand out among other Tahoe resorts. First and foremost, it still has some of that retro feel to it. There are plenty of upgrade that have taken place, but it still has a uniqueness to it that definately does not feel Intrawest or ASC. Skiing wise, it has some of Tahoe's best terrain, with plenty of stuff for each skier/rider in your group. Although it has been "discovered" by the Bay Area crowd of late, it still has some of the least crowded slopes in Tahoe. Go and try it. If it leaves something to be desired, Alpine & Squaw are not far away.


Powdr
post #7 of 27
Love:

Storm days are great! Lap chair 22 or chair 2 (Roger's Ridge Area), but look for other chairs that might open; 3,5, 25,12. See also June Mtn.

Windbuff is the best! It can happen after a windy storm or just after the right wind event. Look for it on the right side of Dave's; drop the cornice, turn right, air onto the shoulder and Super G the rest of the steep. Other likely spots would include Da Noids, the Hump, Monument and West Bowl.

Bumpin' in the Act's is always fun, if you're not up to it try Red Wing. West Bowl also gets some nice lines. If you've got it, try the Viva Challenge; a no stop bump run that goes top to bottom of chair 22.

8:30 am speed runs Stump Alley or Solitude

Real Steeps and not just up top. The Avy Chutes off Chair 22 are almost always open, even when it's dumping. Try Avy 3 (not really a chute) first, and 2 (look out for rocks) last. Up top the most sustained steeps are Heuvos Grande, Monument, and the Noids. Also check out the hike to steeps of Hemlock, and Dragon's Area. The most challenging billy goat lines are in the Top of the World (next to the gondola top station) and the Star Chute/Kiwi Flat area. Do Not Fall.

Terrain parks with perfectly groomed hits for all levels, and three pipes dragoned every night.

June Mtn is uncrowded, 20 minutes away, and worth a visit. It has long perfectly groomed runs that still have corduroy at 4pm, one long bump run, the best pipe anywhere, more terrain parks with more baby jumps, and serious photo shoot booters, geat easy access backcountry, and no people. Do I need to say storm/powder days?
After skiing have a drink at the Tiger Bar, and a reasonably priced hearty meal at the Carson Peak Inn.

Eat at Convict Lake; baked brie, beef Wellington and bananas Foster

Eat at Nevados; reasonably priced three course meal, probably the best food in town

Drink wine and morsels at Petra's, beer at the Clocktower Celler

Dance at Fever (with pole ladies!)

Also Sushi at Shogun or Sand Dollar, Mexican at Gomez's or Roberto's

Overeat at Berger's or Grumpy's

Crosscountry ski at Tamarack; a great change of pace.

Hate:

Crowds on Sat/Holidays; the lines are manageable but the most popular runs (Stump/Cornice/Solitude/B-WaySaddle Bowl Etc..)are dangerous. Try the piste less traveled or stay off piste. Canyon has fewer fast lifts than Main Lodge and more people. June Mtn duh!

Vons on Fri/Sat night; the only grocery.

Traffic/parking on the weekends sucks but is still way better than Tahoe.

Bring: Midfats/Fats 78mm underfoot min. for serious off piste action. Try Outlaw/AC4/new B3/Stormrider/Santiago Mission/Etc... Neck Gators/ Helmets/ Goggles are a must on those windy days when the chairs stop frequently. It's not that cold, but the wind...

Follow: the wind, and the sun. Keep looking, you will find outrageous skiing almost every day.
post #8 of 27
one of the coolest video's ever shot at Mammoth....(it may take a minute to load and if you hear sound but see no picturre, hit the refresh button and it will come up)

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May7.mov




and if you liked that one, this one is cool, too

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May10.mov
post #9 of 27
Thread Starter 
@Mammoth........ that's great stuff!!! Thanks.

Squaw...... even better. Especially the 2nd film..... hysterical.

Everybody should look at those 2 clips....
post #10 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by SquawMan
one of the coolest video's ever shot at Mammoth....(it may take a minute to load and if you hear sound but see no picturre, hit the refresh button and it will come up)

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May7.mov

and if you liked that one, this one is cool, too

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May10.mov
Sweet. Kneissl skis, too!
post #11 of 27
Squawman,
Excellent, most excellent!
Got any more?
post #12 of 27
FARKING EXCELLENT Squawman! Although it's highly unlikely I'll ever challenge lines like that, it's a pleasure to watch those who can
post #13 of 27
Squawman:
Your video offering and the subsequent reviews forced me to dowload 21M Quicktime/ I\tunes player (A**Hole) Thanks
MTT
post #14 of 27
The 2nd one. Now offically my favorite skiing clip ever.
post #15 of 27
To add on to @mammoth's great description & advice...

It really is large enough to not only have a broad range of terrain, but offers a large amount of choices of each terrain for everyone. In this sense it is a great destination for a group trip. For me, I like how the top ridge is very long/broad, which lets you drop in to a variety of challenging terrain, from exciting to scary, that is all easily accessible by lift or gondola.

I really like the layout of the mountain. It is easy for people in groups to split up for a run or two and then re-connect. It reminds me of the freeways in Los Angeles, you usually have a few different choices of lifts for getting from one part of the mountain to another. And if some areas get crowded, you can take another path. I've always found the crowds and navigating to be manageable, and have simply went to the top, eastern side, Lincoln mountain, or the western backside and found almost empty runs. I've never found it to be too crowded on the top (although it is usually windy up there). Overall, the mountain layout seems to absorb the crowds really well. And on weekdays you'll have the mountain to yourself.

Plus, Mammoth has the largest hot tubs I've ever seen! Maybe it was cool to build enormous hot tubs in the 70s/80s... I don't know. I could swim laps in the jacuzzis at a few of the places I've stayed.

It is out of the way and not easy to get to, which seems to be the reason I hear most often from folks that don't want to go there. But if you make it there, I'm sure you & your group won't be disappointed. I never am.
post #16 of 27
SquawMan -- Excellent clips, thanks! I was laughing out loud on that second one.
post #17 of 27
Let me add that along with the quantity of terrain for all levels, is the general excellence of the terrain for everybody. No matter what the ability level, there are only a few trails that don't "ski well", because most follow the fall line, yet have a some sidehill or gully character now and then. and unless you get into SOME of the advanced/expert terrain, there is very little traversing and catwalks.
post #18 of 27
That second clip hilariously captures feelings that I know I've felt more than one occasion! Although on nothing that gnarly!
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post #20 of 27
Having skied 4.4 million vertical at Mammoth since 1978 I could write a dissertation, but @mammoth and powdertracks76 have summarized the highlights. I would also include Tamarack Lodge along with Nevado's and Convict Lake as Mammoth's best restaurants.

I wrote an Inside Tracks Article back in 1998 http://webpages.charter.net/tcrocker818/mmthguid.htm, which is still relevant but overstates weekend lift lines as there were only 2 high speed quads then. This past December 18 (Saturday http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boa...opic.php?t=370) I skied 44,500 vertical. Since I was also there May 7 (http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boa...pic.php?t=1016) that video always brings fond memories.
post #21 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by SquawMan
Thanks SquawMan!! I just relived good times at Squaw.
post #22 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks sooo much guys for all the info. This board is the best because of skiers like you.
post #23 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks sooo much guys for all the info.
post #24 of 27

Mammoth Rocks

Mammoth is great. We live here full time and the place rocks!

Check out our web site: http://www.mammothsnowman.com

There are lots of video's in there to check out and well as pictures. Right now we are uploading more images galleries daily.

Enjoy!
post #25 of 27
MammothSnowMan, welcome to EpicSki! And thanks for the link to the pictures... Looks like it's nono-commercial other than the SkiShop link... Thanks, again...
post #26 of 27
Dear SquawMan,
Thank you for the great skiporn. Your site is now on my favorites. I haven't watched them all, but i really liked the one on Taos. I'm glad you were here in an epic snow year.
When it's good it's really really good!
Cheers and thanks again for sharing!
post #27 of 27

Duane from adventurefilmworks.com

Below is a picture of Duane. He is a friend of mine and he filmed those
great adventure flicks you saw. Send him an email from his site and let
him know you liked his stuff. He and Miles are great guys to ride and film
with. They venture down here to mammoth alot.


http://www.adventurefilmworks.com
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