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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm skiing on 184 cm Rossi Bandit XX skis. I'm 58 years old, 5'10" and weigh around 190 lbs. I really like these boards and ski them quite well. They seemed quite short when I bought them (I never taught on anything shorter than a 203 cm in the 80's and 90's). Several instructor friends, who are still teaching, have told me that I'd like an even shorter ski and that these 184's might, in fact, be too long for me? I'd be interested in feedback from some of you.
post #2 of 19
Those skis are fairly soft when compared to your old equipment. If they come around fast enough for you the shorter skis might not be needed. I always like demo days because it allows me to play on different skis and determine my own favorites. That would be my suggestion.
post #3 of 19
I think it's a case of "jump on the bandwagon".

Unless you spend most of your time making tighter turns at lower speeds or playing in moguls, I wouldn't change anything. As has been said, you could always try out a shorter ski at the next demo day, but I don't think 184 is too long for 190 lbs in a bandit used for all-around skiing; 184cm might be too long for your SL ski.
post #4 of 19
I weight about 250 at 6'1" and ski 180, and get pretty good flotation in powder, but wish I had bought a 170 for moguls. (Although 180 was the lenght suggested by Rusty Guy) these are Nordica SUV-14's btw, a great all mountain ski, with great edging, and comfortable to teach in also.
post #5 of 19
I'm a similar weight, a couple of inches taller and about 20 years younger than you, Sitz, and my piste skis are 170s. My pow skis are 179.

Dropping down to the 170 on piste really helped my skiing. As the others have said: DEMO!
post #6 of 19
184 is a good length for you with the bandit, which is by my recollection quite soft; 174 would be a good length for an RX7,8, SX11, B5 or other stiffer ski.

EDIT: Above should read RX8 and RX9
post #7 of 19
I'm in a similar boat as you, WTFH. I was 'forced' (couldn't find anything but 180 or 160 in my ski of choice) to buy a 180 for my piste ski, and wish that I could have gotten a 170 in hindsight. Part of me thinks that the 180 will make me a better skiier in the long run.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Ghost
184 is a good length for you with the bandit, which is by my recollection quite soft; 174 would be a good length for an RX7,8, SX11, B5 or other stiffer ski.
170 in the RX8 (isn't RX7 a car?), 165 in the SX:11, 162 in the Metron:b5.

Of course, they are all very different skis than the XX. At least a generation nicer, too.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Forrester
I'm in a similar boat as you, WTFH. I was 'forced' (couldn't find anything but 180 or 160 in my ski of choice) to buy a 180 for my piste ski, and wish that I could have gotten a 170 in hindsight. Part of me thinks that the 180 will make me a better skiier in the long run.
Which ski is it? If it's really too long for you, it won't actually make you a better skier... But, it might not make you worse!

A ski that's too long can force bad habits to try to keep the ski engaged. For example, you may use more fore/aft movement than necessary on a ski that actually "fits" you.

Note: I'm not saying the 180 is too long. It really depends on the ski and the terrain where you use it.
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys. I'll check out the demo stock when the snow falls again. I ski mostly in the Intermountain Rockies (usually Sun Valley) all conditions; but, mostly on big mountains with big runs. I'm not in the bumps much anymore, but these 184's seem quick and easy in the trees and on narrow runs. They practically ski themselves compared to my old 207 7sk.
post #11 of 19
Steve,

It's the Atomic C:9, the pre-pulser model. I wouldn't say that it's too long, but I'd have been happier with the 170. It isn't the greatest ski for short turns, which I'd prefer for steeper terrain. The only problem I've had is finishing my turns on the steeps.

The RX7 is a car, and so now is the RX8 (Mazda).
post #12 of 19
Yeah, I meant RX8 and RX9.
I just bought a pair of 165cm skis for short turns (13 m sidecut), and playing around on small Ontario hills. I still prefer my 208s for highspeed bigturns. The only drawback to the longer skis if you're not doing bumps or tricks is the extra weight in the parking lot (I think mine have two layers of stainless sandwiching the rubber and tri-core wood).
post #13 of 19
Ghost, pick up a pair of Metrons... You'll find shorter doesn't mean lighter!
post #14 of 19
If you ski pretty much only packed slopes you could definitely go shorter. If you still like busting some crud once in a while you may not want to lose too much length. You just need to be careful with your new ski choice because 184 (or even less in some models) is the longest you can get in many skis, so it may be more of a stiffer/aggressive ski than you think, based on your previous experience. As we often hear on this site, the path to happiness is demo, demo, demo.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yup, I do still like to get into the trees, into the crud and into fresh powder. About the only thing I really forego are the bump runs and I really don't miss them.
post #16 of 19
Sitzmark, it really depends on the ski. I'd say that my 162cm Metron:b5s are more stable (and fun!) in crud, trees, etc. than the vast majority of skis available today, regardless of length. In other skis, I may want to go longer. So, as you hear so often here, demo if you can...
post #17 of 19
It really depends on the skier's reaction to the skis. My Elan S12's are great in 160, but I'm more quick-footed on my Head Monster 77 iM Chips in 170. Go figure.
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
That's interesting oboe. I've got an old pair of Volkl Carver Plus (about 98/99 vintage) that are 201cm. On the hardpack, they are just as easy and quick as my 184 Bandit XX skis. The Bandits are much better in the soft snow and crud, though.
post #19 of 19
Sitzmark, try a pair of Fischers if you can during demo days this year. The RX8, RX9, or even the WorldCup SC. I am partial to these for quickness and to the Metrons (b5s) for overall "one ski quiver". I suspect you'd find any of these at least as much fun as either of your current skis...
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