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has anyone heard any info about the new 05/06 dynastar or atomic race skis??
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i can tell you about ours. the new gs skis come 176-21m, 183-22.5m in blue/white for women. mens gs in 183-22.5 m (same as women's), 186-24.9m and 191-26.8m in red/white. all of those models are now fir/spruce wood laminates with two layers of titinal and are available with either flat race chassis or black world cup plate.
women's 155 slalom is now the same wood laminate lay-up as the gs skis. men's 165 is basically the same construction as the gs skis but is the only remaining race room ski in the beta configuration. the reason for the switch is that basically the edge grip (again, in the world cup construction) was essentially all or nothing. for most people the skis didn't feather into or release from the turns all that easily and some would say, dictated a certain turn shape. if you could handle them and hang on they were outstanding. now the skis are a tad more friendly and with the profile of the two metal layers (which for some reason, no other company has done before) you get the same dampness and stability you'd expect from our skis. old school construction, with a little twist is all i'll say. same goes for the women's slalom and they are working very, very well. they world cup 165 retains the beta profile because of the massive edge hold. just in case...all new molds, shapes and size runs on the jr's...they are all fir/spruce laminates with one sheet of metal.
mark bettencourt
atomic racing east
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Originally Posted by logruve_
the reason for the switch is that basically the edge grip (again, in the world cup construction) was essentially all or nothing. for most people the skis didn't feather into or release from the turns all that easily and some would say, dictated a certain turn shape.

Nope. That is incorrect information. I have been informed of the truth in an earlier post. The last word in Atomic equipment and the sport of Ski Racing in general, (BetaRacer), told me that if someone feels like they can't adjust their turn shape with an Atomic race ski, they need to learn how to ski.

I felt that Atomics "locked into a turn" too much.
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i guess i missed that conversation. but for sure, if a skier can get any turn shape out of brand x (plug in any real race room ski here), they should be able to do the same thing on an atomic, volkl, rossi, dynastar,etc. race skis SHOULD lock into the desired turn shape...a high level of proficiency is what allows the turn shape to be changed at will. at the end of the day, everyone has their own level of "touch" and luckily the industry provides lots of different skis to choose from.
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atomics will be basically the same as last year for the gs and sl line but maybe slightly different dimensions
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the skis are completely different for next year.
post #7 of 8
Great info as usual, Mark.
We´d need at least 15 logruve clones and assign them to all major manufacturers as their gear informers...

I can´t speak for any real Dynastar guys but since no one reported there´s at least two modest pieces of info.
I measured the GS and SL skis of our Junior World Champion (SL) Filip Trejbal.
They might have been last season´s race skis but that´s what could be available to some special mortals for the season to come.

GS: 97-65-86/192 cm (tip and tail widths measured at contact points), seemed within the trend of relatively soft GS skis.
The new blue plate, traditional ZR turntable binding.

SL: approx. 111-63-98/165 cm (tip width depends on how you succeed in finding the front contact point, therefore my "approx.")
Don´t remember the flex and plate, ZR binding. (The flex might be individual for the racer who is a young guy but as tall as his GS skis and quite strongly built after his ex-racer father who is a liftee/lumberjack.)

There are also retail GS and SL skis in the Dynastar catalog which have different dimensions and more sidecut. As for GS, Dynastar is, beside Stockli, Kneissl and the longest Nordica, the only with a 21+m retail "catalog" GS ski still available (104-66-91/182 cm/23 m, 176 cm/22 m, 187 cm/25 m).
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LOL, I have all the work i can handle as it is, FYI, we have a fir/spruce laminate in 176cm's this year as well, although it is our only size that is the FIS minimum.
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