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Lance in Charge

post #1 of 20
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Vinikurov makes up about a minute and a half, but still is not back in the top ten. Looks like time is running out for everybody else.

http://www.olntv.com/tdf/standings/s...s&t=ITG&e=9999










and the red sox still suck
post #2 of 20
Don't you just wish Telekom would quit being a club of individualists?
post #3 of 20
T-mobile rider with the stuff will get support from team. They don't have a GC man. Kloden and Vino could not have got stage wins without team. If Rasmussen can be 38 seconds out of first, team doesnt matter. Blue train might set the pace but they can't stop other riders from holding their wheels. Mountain stages make TDF a test of rider not team.
post #4 of 20
I'm thinking that Armstrong is regretting letting Rasmussen take all that time the other day. Pesky little feller. The only one Armstrong hasn't dropped like a stone yet and puts out big even after a massive stage before the rest. No slouch today either after taking Armstrong yesterday.

BTW this isn't Mtnlion it's L7. Mntlion doesn't give a crap about this.
post #5 of 20
Rasmussen will fade. He's racing for second, as are most of the contenders. With Vinikurov out and Basso and Ulrich hanging back, Lance just has to maintain the pace to win.
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by telerod15
T-mobile rider with the stuff will get support from team.
Don't forget to remind them. WTF was that with Kloden today?
post #7 of 20
T-mobile is a sponsored group of riders who do not have a clue as to how to work as a team.....they have talent.....but a brainless coach


they will never amount to much

I heard Vino might race for discovery next year
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by mikebike
I heard Vino might race for discovery next year
That's his express intention. Way I heard it today, he wouldn't consider riding for any other team.

And no wonder... didja see that breakaway he made today, only to be chased down by his own teammates? Idiots.
post #9 of 20
HaHaHa, I guess I was wrong! Before T-mobsters chased down Vino, it looked like they were working as a team to isolate Lance from his team mates. When they closed the gap to shut down Vino's attack, I had to laugh and I thought of the discussion of T-mobile and teamwork in this thread.

I think Lance used everybody in that group (honorary Discovery riders for a day) to put time on Rasmussen and Mancebo. Why not let guys like Basso and Ulrich do the pacesetting? Especialily if they will close down attacks from their "real" team mates!?

Rasmussen and Mancebo clawed their way back, didn't lose too much time. Good riding. I would like to see these guys and the American riders finish ahead of the Italian and German. The German hasn't got much of a lead over Floyd and Levi!

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Originally Posted by comprex
Don't forget to remind them. WTF was that with Kloden today?
post #10 of 20

Are we seeing Old World rankthink- Ullrich-Kloden-Vino?

Krazy. Kare to feed the bubbling kauldron of spekulation for JB's lineup next year?
post #11 of 20

What is Old World rankthink?

I think it would be awesome if Discovery could get Vinokourov. Chis Horner would be a nice addition too. He's hanging tough today. They probably need an American TdF GC contender if they want Americans to pay attention. I don't realy know what the marketing goals of Discovery channel's sponsership are. If (like U.S. Postal) they are trying to sell products/services in Europe, then maybe don't need American team leaders or American fans/media attention.
post #12 of 20

A Paris finish in contract value order

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Originally Posted by telerod15
I They probably need an American TdF GC contender if they want Americans to pay attention.
Agreed.
post #13 of 20
Lance's team has an extra team mate when the Tour goes over the Portet d'Aspet. They have now won four of the five stages that included the pass where the tragic death of the young, talented rider, Fabio Casartelli occurred. What a wonderful tribute to their fallen comrade. Really great stage today. Congratulations, George!
post #14 of 20
Nice to see George win it today....

hats off off to Johan who is a master technician..... classic way to set it up for George.....with Lance in the lead no one expected him to work and then he was fresh for the finish or to help lance if they got caught by the leaders
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by comprex
Agreed.
Well it's not going to be Horner. Floyd or Levi maybe and Zabriskie has some potential too, but it's not Chris.
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
Well it's not going to be Horner. Floyd or Levi maybe and Zabriskie has some potential too, but it's not Chris.
Do your have GH to stay on for next year?
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by comprex
Do your have GH to stay on for next year?
He stays, but he's not your GC guy. I think a big focus for Discovery and GH (it is always for him) will be Paris to Roubaix. He's has always wanted to win that one and while he's come close a few times he never has. I think DC will work hard and try to get a win for him this year.

Another interesting question is what DC is going to do in the Vuelta. Can they sweep the 3 grand tours? Savoldeli in the Giro, Lance in the Tour and ???? in the Vuelta?

L
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
Well it's not going to be Horner. Floyd or Levi maybe and Zabriskie has some potential too, but it's not Chris.
I didn't mean to imply that. I don't think Floyd or Levi will ride for Discovery, but Horner and/or Tom Danielson might develop into grand tour contenders. I don't think they will find an American rider to step into Lance's shoes immediately. That's a problem.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
Another interesting question is what DC is going to do in the Vuelta. Can they sweep the 3 grand tours? Savoldeli in the Giro, Lance in the Tour and ???? in the Vuelta?

L
Who is ???? Beltran? Popovich? Danielson? Azevedo?
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by telerod15
I didn't mean to imply that. I don't think Floyd or Levi will ride for Discovery, but Horner and/or Tom Danielson might develop into grand tour contenders. I don't think they will find an American rider to step into Lance's shoes immediately. That's a problem.
Basso is going to win next year no matter who rides for DC (and I wouldn't be upset by that either).

Speaking of American contenders, I hate what happened to Tyler. I still hoping that he prevails in the CAS...

Beltran may be the Veltua GC guy. He's a spaniard and is getting some rest now that he's out of the tour....

L
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