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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hallo!!

Thanks for all the help in my Twin Tip Thread!

Anyone want to chat about Ski's and boots? I great deal on new (unused)k2 escapes after i bought them i found out that they are like 3 years old but they Ski Awesome! I was renting salomon scrambler 33's at 160cm. the ski's i bought are 176's after getting used to them i love them. Now the boots i bought Salomon verse 6.0 suck I got them a box store i have size 15 feet and the sales guy tralked me into getting mondo 32.5. They feel a little loose and flex way to much (i fall alot) and even though i'm mew to skiing i can do most Blue runs NP but i get on black and i can't get the ski's to do what my feet tell em. A guy I spoke to at a ski shop said I need stiffer and smaller 32.0 boots. I when i'm on the hill i think boots aren't responcive enough and i can actully feel the flex in the boot. any advice?

W
post #2 of 16
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Originally Posted by Yesguy!
Hallo!!

Thanks for all the help in my Twin Tip Thread!

Anyone want to chat about Ski's and boots? I great deal on new (unused)k2 escapes after i bought them i found out that they are like 3 years old but they Ski Awesome! I was renting salomon scrambler 33's at 160cm. the ski's i bought are 176's after getting used to them i love them. Now the boots i bought Salomon verse 6.0 suck I got them a box store i have size 15 feet and the sales guy tralked me into getting mondo 32.5. They feel a little loose and flex way to much (i fall alot) and even though i'm mew to skiing i can do most Blue runs NP but i get on black and i can't get the ski's to do what my feet tell em. A guy I spoke to at a ski shop said I need stiffer and smaller 32.0 boots. I when i'm on the hill i think boots aren't responcive enough and i can actully feel the flex in the boot. any advice?

W
The best thing this forum can do for you is give you access to pages and pages of peoples (usually) first hand experiences with many many different pieces of equipment.

The best thing you can do for the gearheads here is do some homework.

There are some great posts on gear tips: IE: foot shapes that fit Rossi's better than Nordica's and that sort of thing.

Lots of info on general types of skis for different types of skier/ability/snow conditions.

There may be one post, somewhere, about poles too!

My advice to you would be -- don't get in a hurry, take the time to read and formulate some idea what you think you need.

You'll get more focused advice that way!

Welcome, by the way!
post #3 of 16

Mondo 32.5

I'm certainly not as accomplished as most of the posters here but I believe that the only difference in a 32 and a 32.5 boot is the liner, the shell is the same size. So changing the size down won't make any difference if i'm right. The stiffness is another matter altogether. I'm partial to Langes having raced them as a kid and now I ski them as an old man but I don;t know enough to know the relative stiffness of one brand vs another. someone here will though.
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by klogman
I'm certainly not as accomplished as most of the posters here but I believe that the only difference in a 32 and a 32.5 boot is the liner, the shell is the same size. So changing the size down won't make any difference if i'm right. The stiffness is another matter altogether. I'm partial to Langes having raced them as a kid and now I ski them as an old man but I don;t know enough to know the relative stiffness of one brand vs another. someone here will though.
Some boots change sizes on the half size. So a .5 and the next size up will only be different by the liner. I think atomic did this on some boots, my b10's in paticular. Later, RicB.
post #5 of 16
Only Atomic boots function that way, all other manufacturers have (for example) a 32 and a 32.5 as the same shell. I have discussed this and was agreed with in another thread.
post #6 of 16

new boots

Yesguy,
The ol' search function can get you lots of great threads in here. When in a new boot at this time of year(with spread out, summer feet)....if it's a loose fit, you can probably do better in something else.... As foot shape was mentioned, getting the foot shape matched properly...will help a lot.
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post #7 of 16

brand name baloney

The best advice that can be given regarding "off the shelf" boots is that no advice can be given on the net.

I have been wearing Lange boots for as long as I can remember. My son has been skiing Lange boots for the past several years!

Would I suggest Lange boots for you? No. No way!

What you need to do is to use this creative down time during the summer to go to a number of ski shops that employ people who actually ski. The kids in the high volume "ski shops" get a "seminar" on fitting and a handfull of tickets gratis and go out a couple of times a year .... and you think they are "skiers"?

Go to a real shop and watch how they fit the boot, wear thin ski socks (boots pack out/get loose after use through foam compaction), did they remove the liner to fit the boot (they should)? Make sure that the buckle is not at it's max range to give a good fit .... the solution is not to wear a heavier sock (that may be later to get that last season out of them), and don't get hung up on features like the "walking mode".

Try a bunch of brands at a few shops and take notes ... take notes ... take notes ...

Make sure that the shop will work with you and make adjustments in the future ... for free (within reason),

Regarding stifness ..... a stiff boot can be made softer, flex softer. Many of us buy a race boot (stiff), and when we go for adjustments there are plastic pieces flying all over during the adjustment to soften the flex.

Question the "fitter" on the range of adjustments on the boot. Boots like Lange and Technica Icons have more adjustments (hidden), and many "fitters" are clueless. If the guy doesn't have a clue what some of those little screws and shims do ...... ????

Once you learn the brand or brands that match your foot, think in terms of "volume" versus "size 10" .... the shape of your arch, heel, etc. dictate what boot will work without packing foam stickies and other wacko "tricks" to get a "fit".

Lastly, the transfer of the action through the ankle to the ski; think of this as a "mechanical linkage". Does your car have a goofy soft rubber bushing between the gas pedal and the levers and linkage that actuate the carb or the fuel injection? Nope! It's the same thing with a ski boot. If your foot is flopping in a loose boot or sliding and the heel is lifting you are wasting lots of energy and putting your body through a series of "compromises" (putting you off balance). You want the transfer of the movement of the ankle to the skis to be an instant one .... the boot should be a firm fit with no wasted motion.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223
Only Atomic boots function that way, all other manufacturers have (for example) a 32 and a 32.5 as the same shell. I have discussed this and was agreed with in another thread.
I believe that my Tecnicas (XT 17s) are like this, too.
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks alot for all the great advice! This is like a big world wide Skiing family
post #10 of 16
You forgot to tell the troop that you have Big Foot feet. 15E and wide all over... And you're 6'3" and 223, right?

With that information, some may even be able to recommend brands... As I mentioned by IM, your physical size is so different from mine that I don't have any idea what to suggest in boots...
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
True dat, i guess i was so amazed that there was a web based comminuty of skiers who support each i forgot to add that sorry
post #12 of 16
There is of course Dale Boot.

(Still stuck on the mental image of a 160cm Scrambler under that size 15E foot.).
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
LOL, they ski'd ok, my 176's are more stable! But i gatta get new boots alas all the shops are closed till like October
post #14 of 16
Have you tried the shops closer to the hills? Most of our dedicated ski shops sell mountain bikes and other items during the summer.

The downtown "run of the mill" shops pack the gear away till the leaves drop but I'm going for new boots with my son tomorrow.
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Never thought to try the shops in Toronto, maybe I will thanks
post #16 of 16
I meant the shops close to the ski areas may be open for the mountain bike crew ... sleepy for fitting boots ... but they never turn down business.
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