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Modest Quiver...suggestions?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Presently my quiver has the following arrows:
184 cm Volkl Supersport 5stars
175 cm Salomon Pocket Rocket

I have had a great time on both, but want to add a mid-fat to fat ski with a less spaghetti-like sturcture than the pocket rockets. I have skied last years Volkl G4s in a 178, and enjoyed the experience, though it did take some getting used to after the PRs. Presently, I am considering either trying to find a G4, or opening the wallet for a 724 AX4 or a Dynastar Inspired, which I have also heard good things about. I am 5'10" , 160 lbs, and can fluidly ski most anywhere - I would say I fall into the bottom tier of the REALLY good skiers on the mountain. I ski predominantly in in the Vail Valley but also in Alta/Snowbird for about 10-15 days.

Any advice on the aforementioned skis (or others) would be helpful. Thanks!
post #2 of 14
I demoed the Inspired last year in a 188, my wife tried it in a 178. I won't say its a mid fat its almost a fat though can't remember what its under foot. My wife liked it and she loves her PRs in a 175. A 178 was fine with her ( her usual ski is a Volant PowerK 173). I would think its an alternate to a PR if you wanted more ski. I've got the 194 Bigs form the previous year and there's no comparison.
post #3 of 14
If you like Volkls demo the V-Pro. It is constantly overlooked because it is a twin-tip but shouldn't be. It has an 83mm waist and is a very versital ski. Another ski I would recommend trying around the 80mm range is the K2 Axis XP.

As for the Inspired, last year it was one of the hot skis where I live. People loved them especially in crud and on packed runs. The biggest beef I heard was with the forward mounting of the binding which caused the ski to dive in deep light powder and made for a long tail that was a pain in moguls (you can't avoid moguls in Montana).

dougw -

You said "I've got the 194 Bigs form the previous year and there's no comparison." My guess is mean you like the Inspired more but I know some Big owners that like their Bigs better so I'm wondering what you meant by that comment.
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rio:
If you like Volkls demo the V-Pro. It is constantly overlooked because it is a twin-tip but shouldn't be. It has an 83mm waist and is a very versital ski. Another ski I would recommend trying around the 80mm range is the K2 Axis XP.

As for the Inspired, last year it was one of the hot skis where I live. People loved them especially in crud and on packed runs. The biggest beef I heard was with the forward mounting of the binding which caused the ski to dive in deep light powder and made for a long tail that was a pain in moguls (you can't avoid moguls in Montana).

dougw -

You said "I've got the 194 Bigs form the previous year and there's no comparison." My guess is mean you like the Inspired more but I know some Big owners that like their Bigs better so I'm wondering what you meant by that comment.
Rio,
regarding the V-Pros - if you know, how would you compare them to the G4s or 724 AX4s?
post #5 of 14
I ski the V-Pro. I'd say that compared to the G4, it is a more forgiving ski. It is softer and has less sidecut. It is a real do it all ski. When I am travelling, it's the one I take.
post #6 of 14
Quote:
Originally posted by Rio:

dougw -

You said "I've got the 194 Bigs form the previous year and there's no comparison." My guess is mean you like the Inspired more but I know some Big owners that like their Bigs better so I'm wondering what you meant by that comment.
No comparison as they are very different skis. the Intuitive Big from 02 ( orange and green) is a big ripper and took me a bit of work to get used to. Big stiff stable , while the Inspired felt short on me , pretty stable but easy turning. Be great for tree skiing. Which is better? Once I got the Bigs dialed in I love the power feel but could see on a lazy day the Inspried would be nice.
I've heard that the 194 is very differnt than the 188 in the Bigs. Dimensions and stiffness are increased. The 194 is a fat race ski.

[ September 18, 2003, 07:50 AM: Message edited by: dougw ]
post #7 of 14
The V-Pro is softer and slightly straighter than the G-4. It is not a twin-tip version of the G4 like some shop personnel will tell you. The G4 carves on hard snow better. The V-Pro skids much easier and is one of the few 74mm+ skis Pete Keelty says is good in bumps. If you like to ski narrow steeps you might like the V-Pro better.
post #8 of 14
BTW....the G4 and AX4 are the same ski.
post #9 of 14
Benzo
My suggestion would be get the Volkl G4 178 or a Head Monster iM85 in 179. Then ditch the Pocket Rockets and get a volkl P60 (or P50) RC racing (european model Race Carver/skier cross) in a 173. Or get the Head Worldcup i.XRC CP 13 skier cross ski in a 172. Or the Atomic Supercross SX-11.

[ September 18, 2003, 12:38 AM: Message edited by: NordtheBarbarian ]
post #10 of 14
The big an inspired are the same ski. The only difference is the topsheet, and a slightly different sidewall depending on the year.

Both come in a 194 which is a very different ski than the 188 and shorter versions. The 188 and shorter versions are also basically the same ski as the LittleBigFat except without the twin tip.

Anyway, the 178cm Big is definitely a ski I would consider to fill the gap in your quiver, as well as the R:ex (177), iM.85 (179), V-Pro (180) and BigStix 84 (180). The G4 is a more demanding ski than any of those.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
The advice thus far has been great...keep it coming. thanks,
Benzo
post #12 of 14
I think the V-Pro is a good suggetion, but the 180's are the prime size and will not be cheap. The G4/AX4 on the other hand is a lot of ski compared to most of the others listed. I used to ski a 175 PR, which I complimented with a 184 R:EX. Otherwise, the 80-86-mm width category has lots of choices, most of which are slam dunks. I'd say get something stiffer, as the PR will be your ride on soft/deep days.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
The V-Pro seems a popular choice - is it more ski than the 724 Pro?or, same question posed slightly differently, does it fit, performance wise, between the G4 and 724 Pro?

Also, have not recieved much feedback on the Inspired, anyone care to comment on it or the Atomic Stomp?

Thanks again
post #14 of 14
Quote:
Originally posted by flip:
The big an inspired are the same ski. The only difference is the topsheet, and a slightly different sidewall depending on the year.

Both come in a 194 which is a very different ski than the 188 and shorter versions. The 188 and shorter versions are also basically the same ski as the LittleBigFat except without the twin tip.

Anyway, the 178cm Big is definitely a ski I would consider to fill the gap in your quiver, as well as the R:ex (177), iM.85 (179), V-Pro (180) and BigStix 84 (180). The G4 is a more demanding ski than any of those.
Sorry but no. The largest Inspired is a 188 and its ~ 89 under foot. Pretty easy turning, softer tip skis shorter than length. Demoed it. The Intuitive Big 01/02( orange/ green), owe it, and the 4x4 Bigs( flames) from 99/00 & 00/01 have a 194 which has a different dim.s than the shorter lengths . The 194 is 85mm under foot while the 188 and under is 80 mm under foot.
While I've seen it written that the inspired is the same ski as the Big its a redesign. Its got autodrive , comb cap/sidewalls, whereas the Bigs are all side walls. The Bigs in the 194 are way stiffer. Now there is /was in 02/03 an Intuitiv Big model which is the same as he Inspired Nobis. But when most people refer to Bigs there are referrring to the 01/02 model years and before.
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