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Who will you be watching?

post #1 of 17
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In the Summertime thread, Arcmeister gave us a tutorial in the art of getting better all the time.
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I reviewed one particular video of very technically accurate pro slalom waterskiing several times a week all winter while imagining my skiing the same way and felt it contributed to the best off-the-dock and into a slalom course skiing I ever could have wished for on day-1 this spring.

Note, I did not watch a waterski Pro running 41'-off using balistic mega-power movements I will never aspire to, but a Pro with really accurate movements I can relate to smoothly demo'ng 32'-off, which is the stepping stone I am at and aspire to become more consistant at this summer.

The use of imagery in the off season is a powerful tool, if you are watching technically correct movements. If you can relate to those movements, and imagine yourself making them as you watch, you can actually create more consistantly accurate neuro-muscular pathways than what you might normally ski with. If you can imagine the movements, then your body has the capability of making them.

So for snow skiing find video of really clean, consistent skiers showing where you aspire to progress to this next season and let yourself "feel" the movements as you watch them and you can build "cues" to think about to help trigger those movements when you hit the snow.
Assuming you take Arc's advice, I'm curious to know: who will you be watching, why'd you choose that/those particular skier(s), and how are you getting the video to watch?
post #2 of 17
I've got some DVDs from PSIA and Harald Harb. I break them out every now and then and watch the movements. Then visualize doing them myself. It does help.

Also, its a sorta kinda maybe-a snow fix when its 90 degrees.
post #3 of 17
Anyone A/B roll their mentor's and their own skiing. I tried this a few years ago and it really helped me target specific areas to work on. Comparative analysis if you will. This past season I failed to film my current mentors and all of my visual references are from memory, which is less reliable.
post #4 of 17
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I have a collection of World Cup skiing that I recorded from the TV; my favorites are the Italian women, especially Denise Karbone. I also enjoy watching an old Phil and Steve Mahre instructional/informational tape with Stefan Heinzch (sp?), my scratchy copy of the PBS special "The Legends of Skiing," and the classic Sybervision with Jens, Chris, and Jean Claude. In skiing, like golf, I benefit from watching female models more than male ones, but it seems they're harder to find or perhaps just given less camera time than the guys.
post #5 of 17
I actually prefer to watch newschool/big mountain stuff, not just because of the thrill factor and the often awe-inspiring feats, but to watch for the adaptations. The divergences from the "prefered" methods. Somewhat along the lines of studying the stem-christy, although its no longer a prefered method (and some do not consider it generally effective use of energy), no one can deny its use in teaching (getting over a mental break, as an alternative, etc). I just find it somewhat interesting that I spend so much time in the summer, analyzing things that are technically wrong, but effective. I find that understanding the movements/differences helps me to more quickly have a greater number of skills to fall back on in any given scenario.

Don't get me wrong though, I also use pretty much any ski movie to keep a sharp eye, watching for flaws and thinking of how they could be corrected and what is actually causing them. I guess my focus is a bit different though than most people, my focus isn't on improving my skiing (per se) but expanding my skillset.
post #6 of 17
I´m deeply ashamed.
I recommend watching and vizualizing good skiing to my readers but the idiot of me failed to record any WC racing though I can see almost all races on German TV or Eurosport.
I will have to ask some friends of mine who did.
I´m with Nolo in her preference of ladies. As we know (and discussed in the thread about ugly mens´ GS) they race on less steep slopes and less hard snow (if the stuff still deserves the name) and can show cleaner technique.
post #7 of 17
During summers I usually break out my tired old copy of Sybervision, mostly to watch Jean Claude. I've got to dupe that tape before it's gone forever.
post #8 of 17
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Assuming you take Arc's advice, I'm curious to know: who will you be watching, why'd you choose that/those particular skier(s), and how are you getting the video to watch?
I'll be watching Skiing and the Art of Carving and the Alpine Technical Video.
This year I'm focusing on the bumps. So, I'll be watching Justin Patnode (sp?) and who ever is skiing bumps in the PSIA video. I'll be looking at where they ski rather than how they ski because I think my problems with skiing bumps have more to do with finding the right line rather than the right technique. I'll also be looking at video clips I've downlaoded from Epic and other sites.

I'm visualizing ripping down the fall line. Not. I’m visualizing flowing smoothly through the bumps at a nice steady (slow) controlled pace.
post #9 of 17
I'd like more PSIA Demo Team videos. I'll be watching the Technical Video. And the old SyberVision. And maybe Blizzard of Aahhhhs...
post #10 of 17
I just watched the Gapper movie in the Humor section. AAAACK!!!
post #11 of 17
Try to hang onto some of their moves!!!
post #12 of 17
I'd watch anything that features Tamara McKinney, assuming such a vid existed. She has always been right up there in my pantheon of "Now that's what I'm talking about" skiers. Barring that, my dusty VHS copy of Black Diamond Skiing from Sybervision.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by justanotherskipro
Anyone A/B roll their mentor's and their own skiing. I tried this a few years ago and it really helped me target specific areas to work on. Comparative analysis if you will. This past season I failed to film my current mentors and all of my visual references are from memory, which is less reliable.

yes - we always do that whe n my instructor videos me.... he makes me video him doing the same stuff he had me do on the same run - similar pitch. That way I can see what I am doing & compare it to how he does the same movement sequence. Very useful to me - because my visual learning side is poor. So I find it very handy to see what I was TRYING to do... & then I can see the difference.
post #14 of 17
Anything by Warren Miller......
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
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anything that features Tamara McKinney
Gnarlito, I see you share my taste in women skiers. I don't know of any video specifically of Tamara, but I'd be keen to own it myself. Anyone out there have a lead on one?
post #16 of 17

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Harold's DVDs
WW/touring kayaking DVDs
Have to agree with Mainiac, aside from the scripted humor, Warren's films have a lot of entertaining segments.

*haven't finished reading a single one of my skiing books, have to do that..
post #17 of 17
CSCF World Videos- pretty much anyone on there.
Videos of Von Gruenigen, Anja Paerson, or Janica/Ivica Kostelic.
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