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Anyone Remember "Eddie The Eagle" the ski jumper, lol?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I remeber hearing of this dude who had no idea what he was doing in the world of ski jumping and going to the olympics. Ever hear of him ?
post #2 of 24
Oh yea, he milked that for a number of years beyond and was a big party hit in Calgary.
post #3 of 24
Opening for the Wide World of Sports for years...the agony of defeat...if I remember right. (The ski jumper that wipes out.)

Actually, The first and only British ski jumper ever.

http://www.nyt.co.uk/eddiethe.htm
post #4 of 24
The guy who was more medialized and hence more popular than most serious ski jumpers.
A good example of the media "strategy" picking up an outsider and turning him into a bestselling "hero".
I wouldn´t say he "had no idea what he was doing...". To be able to participate in a standard ski jumping race you must have specialized training behind you, need to know how to jump and be a jumper, though not necessarily a top one (cf. each Olympics with their outsider heros).

I have never been a ski jumper myself but worked for a ski club here that organizes contests including World Cups and has lots of ski jumpers from kids to Olympians. I could watch the trainings and the process of raising a jumper. There´s no Eddie buying a crash course and qualifying for the Olympics but there´s quite a lot of work between the first 10-meter jumps and real jumping.
Btw, Calgary: I think that the Czech jumpers got three medals there: silver and bronze in individual contests and one more for the team. That´s exactly the time I was employed there...
post #5 of 24

Wide World of Sports opening crash....

That skier was Vinko Bogataj. http://www.skiernet.com/legendary-runs.html

Although I think Eddie deserves a spot somewhere as he was a very memorable competitor.

Glenn

"I know you can fight, it's our wits that make us men."
post #6 of 24
I don't believe Eddie ever had a fall during the competition here or it's training runs. He sure came close and sure scared a lot of people. Although it takes a lot of specialized training to ski jump he had very little of it. His experience with jumps especially of that size was very limited and his physique was AMPLE proof that the fitness aspect wasn't exactly all there either. He didn't party as hard as the Jamaican Bobsledders or maybe even Tomba but he held his own.
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
That is just funny. The guy looks like a tool who is way out of shape. Must of been a fun ride for him though while it lasted. LOL
post #8 of 24
Tough to say who is in better shape betweem Eddie and the current WC jumpers. "Fat don't fly" being the credo, there's some pretty widespread bulimia and anorexia. I vaguely remember reading they were considering minimum weight restrictions.

Eddie was a nice little positive sidebar story. The world loves a chubby, guy next door daredevil. It takes nads to leave that inrun...
post #9 of 24
He is still around, and gives skiing lessons at some of the local dry slopes & indoor slopes in England
post #10 of 24
I think they already have done something about this minimum weight trend. I´m not sure but there was some formula relating ski length and skier weight and something has changed to stop chasing minimum weight and favoring the lightest jumpers.

Personally, I´m no fan of ski jumping. Expensive, impractical and often ugly constructions are used a few times a year (the five-six biggest K 180s even less often) by a very limited number of athletes. No use for the public except passively watching. An exclusive activity, no connection with the sort skiing "normal" people pursue.
Unfortunately, the Nordic World Championships 2009 will be held here. More than half a billion in local currency (more than 200,000,000 USD) should come from the state budget, i.e. from the taxpayer. Knowing some comparable projects I suspect it will be more. How much will it be just to let a bunch of anorectic guys jump?
post #11 of 24
Eddie's story was a bit sad.
True he didn't have a huge amount of skill but he was serious about improving. Unfortunately the British Olympic Committee were a bit embarassed by him and shifted the qualification distance which effectively ended his jumping as I remember it.
I also seem to remeber he he got ripped off by his management and came out of it all with nothing.
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by Glenn
That skier was Vinko Bogataj. http://www.skiernet.com/legendary-runs.html

Although I think Eddie deserves a spot somewhere as he was a very memorable competitor.
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Originally Posted by L7
I don't believe Eddie ever had a fall during the competition here or it's training runs.
I said:
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Opening for the Wide World of Sports for years...the agony of defeat...if I remember right. (The ski jumper that wipes out.)

Actually, The first and only British ski jumper ever.

http://www.nyt.co.uk/eddiethe.htm
Obviously I was just kidding about the agony of defeat thing...see where I said "Actually..." and gave the link to the information about the real Eddie.
post #13 of 24
I have no idea what your quote above is about. I was simply clarifying that the Eagle was not the skier in the long used clip of the jumper wiping out on the inrun. Do you think I took offense to something? I don't get it.
post #14 of 24
Teach was just a little too subtle in using "actually". No big deal. The second time I read it, I understood. But then again, I have to read most things twice to understand.
post #15 of 24

Stupid Jack Daniels....

Now that I read teachski's post again it makes far more sense that it did at 4:30am.

Apologies to teachski if I offended.

Guess thats what I get for RUI (Reading under the influence).


Glenn
"I know you can fight, it's our wits that make us men."
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by L7
I have no idea what your quote above is about. I was simply clarifying that the Eagle was not the skier in the long used clip of the jumper wiping out on the inrun. Do you think I took offense to something? I don't get it.
No L7, I don't think you took any offense...I was just pointing out that I knew he was not that skier.

Sorry, I am typing short because of shoulder.
post #17 of 24
The use of 'actually' doesn't really exclude the first portion of the post. I see what you meant now but simply didn't read it that way at first. It seems I wasn't alone in misreading the intent of the post. Given the misinformation posted on the internet I just assumed something different and clarified the info posted.

It's cold, windy and threatening rain and seriously messing my riding motivation. What's more my computer was loaded with spy ware. Life can be soooo hard.
post #18 of 24
He jumped in Brattleboro, VT., shortly after the Olympics.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by teachskiljp
No L7, I don't think you took any offense...I was just pointing out that I knew he was not that skier.

Sorry, I am typing short because of shoulder.
Hey you slipped that in while I was still typing. 3:21 vs 3:22. Sneaky. Hope the shoulder gets feeling better soon.
post #20 of 24
I saw an interview with him once: he wanted to race but had no money or hope of sponsorship and thought he could do jumping cheaper.

Best quote: "I did a 90metre jump once, but I landed on my head so it didn't count".
post #21 of 24
Eddie the Eagle and the Jamacan Bobslead team are the embodyment of the Olymipic Spirt. Amatures competing to be the best in the world. Its a shame they came up with a way to keep Eddie from participating.

What embarassment? He was trying to represent the UK when there was no one else to do so.

I'll take Eddie the Eagle over any of the US Basketball "Dream Team" any day.
post #22 of 24
eddie was the last great racer/jumper no money, no country support only desire against all odds pure sportsman. the other competitors new this it is a shame more don't
post #23 of 24
I am not sure if other competitors considered him more "the last heroic amateur" or "a clown".
It would be necessary to ask some of them.
If he was an alpine racer I would be motivated enough to ask the Czech ones. I could ask Pavel Ploc who was one of the world´s best competitors in the 80s and won two medals in Calgary (and is a native and at home in the place I had the job around ski jumping back then). But, frankly, I don´t care about EE and ski jumping...
post #24 of 24
Eddie was a major accident waiting to happen. That was why he was banned from jumping. Going off a 120k hill is no joke, it requires a certain amount of skill. At the FIS alpine world championships and olympics they have a maximum FIS points for speed events. This is for the racers own safety. Ski jumping did something simliar with Eddie as he was in a class by himself. While for some it was fun to watch him I sure do not agree with making him out to be some kind of hero.
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