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Anyone Skied the Streetracer 8?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
An acquantiance of mine wants to sell me a Streetracer 8(non pilot version) for $200 with bindings.

Has anyone tried this ski?
post #2 of 23
I had Equipe 10 SC Pilot (= Streetracer 10) last summer on the glacier.
Not much of a ski, a playful hypercarver for short turns. Not for top skiers.
Supposing the 8 was a lower model (10, 9, 8...) with identical dimensions I can imagine that the 8 has some less performance.
Hope it helps. Can´t say anything to the price.
post #3 of 23
My wife did. And didn't like it.
As checkracer said : "Not much of a ski, a playful hypercarver for short turns". Playful in tights moguls. Didn't felt confident on it. Unstable, not much grip.
post #4 of 23
My wife's got the Stretracer 10. She likes it a lot. OTOH she's 'just' a careful intermediate skier.
post #5 of 23
Ok, I've asked my wife... (just got her on the phone).She's not an expert by this board standards (neither do I), but a strong skier nonetheless, who, having learn how to ski 30 years ago may probably update her technique (so do I).
She found the streetracers fun, very swift, very good edge to edge, good in moguls. But limited : unstable at speed, not much grip, poor in the pow of course. if she were to buy a "freeski" from salomon, for groomers use only, she'd prefer a crossmax10.
Not a bad ski, but there are a lot of better alternatives.
And I wont argue with her...

Edit : If that helps, her favorite ski this year has been the Burnin'Luv. But I suspect the flowers may had some influence...
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by philippeR
And I wont argue with her...
You don´t have to on this. She seems to know what she´s talking about.
Like Harald Harb once told me about his Diana: not bad for a girl...
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by philippeR
she'd prefer a crossmax10.
Interesting how much opinions can vary depending on whom/how many you ask.

A friend of mine who is a mountain guide/instructor for the Arlberg Ski School was skiing on it and told us that's a ski he would avoid in the future.
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by PowHog
Interesting how much opinions can vary depending on whom/how many you ask.

A friend of mine who is a mountain guide/instructor for the Arlberg Ski School was skiing on it and told us that's a ski he would avoid in the future.
If she had to choose from the salomon range a ski that's fit in the category "allaround for groomers". She's not a fan of the crossmax either. But liked it better than the streetracer.

But, yes, our wifes should agree to desagree !
post #9 of 23
According to the magazines I've read the Equipe 10 SC and the Streetracer 10 are two different skis.

As far as the Equipe 10 SC, I've tried it at Blue Mountain Ontario Canada. It is a lovely little ski making very quick short turns on a small hill. Not so good for going over 40mph, and not feeling very happy going over 35 mph (Guestimating speeds).
Compared to ATOMIC SX, it feels worse than an SX10 at 30, but still performs better than it right up to about 40 mph. The SX11 Blows them both away at speed, but requires more effort to make a quick short turn. The Equipe SC 10 turns as if it could read your mind, but it doesn't have the beef for big forces at speed.

The Crossmax 10 is an all round competent ski, not great at anything, but not bad at anything either. The sx11 beats it in the highspeed long radius department, and the SC beats it in the short turn department.

I think I did try a streetracer, either a 9 or 10. It seemed a pretty limp, uninspiring performer. NO grip, no stability at speed, I can't think of anything good to say about it, except perhaps you would have a hard time falling with it, unless you're were going fast (when you might wash out and low side), so maybe if your a newbie with poor balance it will keep you on your feet longer.

Edit: I tried all the above on hard snow, so the skis might be totally different in powder.
post #10 of 23
Ghost:
See follow on link from same guy
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=27928
MTT
post #11 of 23
SkierXman,
I've just read your other post. If you have not yet learned to carve, and are skidding turns, then the Streetracer 8 would not be such a bad ski for you; it will skid easily; it will not resist being spun around; it will not punish you for making mistakes. Just don't try to be the fastest guy on the hill, and don't expect it to corner like a porsche on a smooth racetrack.
post #12 of 23
Ghost!!

Geez, He weighs 185 / Not much room for improvment on this ski??

MTT
I think he moved past the 8 anyway
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
Well thanks for the info all.

As far as ski reviews I have noticed an absence of reviews and equipment info for 'intermedate' skiers. Seems to be a lot of feedback and information for advanced or those who will be putting on skis for the first time but not a whole lot of info for the intermediate stage. It's even harder to find anwyhere to demo such skis so really all you have to go by is word of mouth and reccomendations.

I have noticed at many ski review sites such skis are usually glanced over with a cursory comment such as 'Low end ski for intermediate' and are not rated or any comments added.

I did find a fairly detailed review for the Streetracer 8 at one site though.

....

Some more info about my style and experience:

Cross country experience has given me pretty good balance on skis so I wouldnt say balance is an issue. The wide gerth of the alpine skis is much easier to balance with when riding flat than a skate ski or cruiserr. In fact I am very comfortable in the terrain parks and 'flat skiing' . One of the first places I went when I started alpine skiing was the terrain park. It just seemed to be pretty straightfoward and I had no problem at all with the jumps and sliding on the rails and flying off rollers etc. It's when I am moving at a fairly good clip down steep grades is when I have problems with control. There have been only a couple times in 2 seasons of skiing that I have actually lost balance and fallen - the worse fall I ever had actually was when I got caught on a rope in a lift line and almost tore my knee out of the socket. I think a lot of my picking up the technique is fear. Once I get going fast I just get a little nervous and hold back and get defensive. I remember late last season when having a private lesson on how to carve my instructor had me picking up speed and was yelling 'You're just about there, you almost got it...lay it on edge' and then I panicked and skidded the turn to slow down'. Tilting the skis to grab an edge at real low speed to get a feel for edging works but once I get any speed going I just cant seem to control things and hold back.
post #14 of 23
SkierXMan:

The type of ski you would most likly be comfortable on are the very same ski's rented out from most Ski shops (Sometimes under the heading performance ski)
I still thnk you should take a close look @ last years heads. You can pick them up new right now for around 4to5 hundred buck!! I think they would serve you well without frustrating you.

MTT
post #15 of 23
Thread Starter 
ok thanks MTT
post #16 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost
According to the magazines I've read the Equipe 10 SC and the Streetracer 10 are two different skis.
Correct. I checked the Salomon 04/05 catalog and there are construction differences. The dimensions are practically the same but they really are two different skis.
If the Streetracer 10 is a somewhat lower-end ski than the 10 SC (as both the differences and Ghost´s experience suggests) then the Streetracer 8 would be even a step or even two "worse".
Please note that my experience with the SC 10 seems to be only partly transferable.
post #17 of 23
SkierXMan, maybe you should demo a Dynastar 4800 or a Salomon 1080 (if you itend to play in the park).
post #18 of 23
Given your dedication and athletic ability, I would get an Salomon SC10, Rossi 9S Oversize, or Fisher RX8, and learn how to carve turns with them by putting them on edge. Once you understand what is happening and get the hang of it it's not that hard. It may be too much ski for you now, but you should learn, and you don't sound like you will be easily discouraged. Just remember tip'em to turn 'em.

If your skiing in the circus park, please ignore my advice; these skis were not made for riding rails and doing other circus tricks.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by Ghost
SkierXman,
I've just read your other post. If you have not yet learned to carve, and are skidding turns, then the Streetracer 8 would not be such a bad ski for you; it will skid easily; it will not resist being spun around; it will not punish you for making mistakes. Just don't try to be the fastest guy on the hill, and don't expect it to corner like a porsche on a smooth racetrack.
true and false

i specialise my skiing in Carving (0% sliding)

we had a demo day in Thredbo, australia on the 26th/27th june. I had the opportunity to test the salomon street racer 8, 10 and equipe pilot.

the street racer 8 is basically a detuned version of the 10. a bit softer, less responsive and less grip.

The street racer 10 is a bit different to the equipe pilot. As the street racer has a shorter radius.

i tested all three skis at 160cm

If you can properly carve, with good technique withdynamic turns then grip shouldnt be too bad with the SR 10, not the best but you should easily be able to 11m radius carve turn with Zero sliding. sure its no WC slalom ski but not the worst.

Response is almost too much and this reflects on stability. If you really give these skis a good go, its a crazy hyparide. although stabilty is respectibly up shite creek. Any changes in snow conditions and these skis suffer. off piest is nothing short of terrible. But in short if u can really carve then it will indeed handle like a porsche

Race track? you wouldnt be the fastest bro on the course, GS track- u make an error u can fix it with this ski pretty easily. SL- what are you doing on this course with a 'Fun carver or Hypacarver ski'

conclusion, these skis are ok... not good nor great. if u can carve then they are a better ski, if u cant carve then this is the wrong ski for u. its aimed at high performance carving or funcarving.

good for rock hoppers. no match for fischer wc sl or even the petty elan magfire 10

cheers guys
post #20 of 23
Hi Aussie:

Nice post. I´d say this is pretty precise characteristics.
I suppose you demoed the new (05/06) skis which might be slightly different in behavior but probably are still the same.

I wish you a good season.
post #21 of 23
yeah the skis i tested were 06' models. that said i have never skied on the older models and wouldnt have a clue with them!

but this ski is very much aimed at a specific group of skiers
ie. da carvers

i tested the 05 salomon cross max 10 and thought it was an embarrasment to ski on... for carving it is crap, as it isnt designed for it! but i have noticed a few people on here raving about it so i think it is much better and could possibly be a good ski for traditional style skiing.

cheers guys
post #22 of 23
Quote:
i tested the 05 salomon cross max 10 and thought it was an embarrasment to ski on... for carving it is crap, as it isnt designed for it! but i have noticed a few people on here raving about it so i think it is much better and could possibly be a good ski for traditional style skiing.
Problem with the Crossmax 10 (that I've tested) is that it's actualy aimed at intermediate skiers but marketed as Skier cross weapon... It's an easy ski to carve IMO (gently, not too much pressure please), to skid, it's soft enough for the bumps, not too shaped so it's quite stable at speed (but not too fast, please)... Don't ask too much or you'll get bored. It's a comforting ski to cruise the groomers with a mean race-like look.
I'm fairly confident Enak Cavaggio doesn't ride the retail model !
post #23 of 23
When bashing Salomon let´s proceed with the Crossmax.
If my memory serves me well the first generation Crossmax 10 (2001/2002) had quite a lot of performance. It was a different ski though (107-69-102).

IMO, one of the problems has always been the Pilot with its 2-axis system and poor transfer of forces fore/aft. They changed it somewhat later (03/04) in skis for groomers but under the more or less solid platform the two axis remain and the transfer is probably still lacking the qualities of a traditionally screw-on plate.
It probably works fine on off-piste skis but I don´t have any experience with those Salomons.
Yes, the race-like look and skicross-like image have always been just marketing. I´d say that the skicross strategy was a (commercially) successful one.

Just to keep things balanced: I have posted on some occasions that I own an older racestock GS 190 cm. A perfect ski!
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