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Are my bindings obsolete?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I have some Marker M9.1 Titanium bindings w/ EPSĀ³ lifters and Logic 1 CP toe. They were purchased somewhere around the '98 season and are mounted on my current skis. I also have a set of Salomon 977 Driver Composites that were bought a few years before that. (no, this isn't a classified ad)

They both were pretty good bindings in their day, but with all the recent technology in bindings (free flex, better retention/release, etc.), if I decide to pull the trigger on new skis this season, would I be better served in also getting new bindings instead of using one of the two sets I have?

Also, 2 of the skis I'm looking at are from Atomic & Dynastar. How important is it to keep the bindings in the family (Atomic bindings w/ Atomic skis, Look w/ Dynastar), since I've usually been partial to either Marker or Salomon?

If it matters, I'm an upper-intermediate who sticks to groomed or hardpack blues and blacks and the occasional weekend NASTAR. I normally steer clear of the bumps and rarely see powder. For me, nirvana would be endless first-track GS turns on morning corduroy.

Thanks ...
post #2 of 19
Old bindings should be placed in a box and shipped to Uncle Yuki for proper disposal.

Actually, I just had a pair of those mounted on my new skis last night. I would have liked a bit more lift but they were in the garage just sitting there so .....

Just where in Noo-Joy-Z are "the boondocks"? Unless you are a real "piney" it's pretty hard to make that claim anymore! Even here in Hunterdon everything is over developed.

[ January 23, 2003, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: yuki ]
post #3 of 19
I worked a ski swap this year where we had someone check binding models on skis. If the bindings were considered too old a sticker would be placed on the skis stating the bindings needed to be replaced. Both of the models you have were allowed without any warning. Personally, I would trust the Marker 9.1s but not the Salomon 977s.
post #4 of 19
Salomon race stock bindings haven't changed in at least 10 years. They are somewhat different cosmetically. My new last year S916's are basicly the same as a 997 Driver, and use many of the same parts. Great bindings.

Kevin
post #5 of 19
I have the Marker 9.1 bindings on my XScreams, purchased around the same time (maybe '99). I have no hesitation using them. Unless yours have not been properly cared for, I wouldn't worry about mounting them. Can't comment on the Salomons.

If you don't mind buying new bindings, I would just keep the Markers on your current skis, and use them as backup/rock skis. Put new bindings on the new boards.

[ January 23, 2003, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: PerSwede ]
post #6 of 19
I guess the onus is put on you. Have the bindings tested. Bindings are mechanical and have many moving parts and ferous metals. Bindings are constantly getting wet inside and out, and if traveled with on the roof of a vehicle, can get grime and road salts into them. Parts can wear and ferous metals can oxidize, leading to improper operation.

I'd replace bindings before skis but that's just me, and most others in the ski industry.
post #7 of 19
Some good posts regarding bindings. Unless you need or want the latest technology, your bindings will do the job provided you have professionals check them out.

Regarding certain bindings with skis, if they are current models, such as Atomics, you are probably better off using the same company binding.Why? The skis and bindings have been designed to work together, so take advantage of that synergy.
post #8 of 19
Tech Support for Skiers (Peter Keelty's website) has a binding indemnification chart in the members section that lists bindings for which the manufacturers will indemnify ski shops against liability for mounting, adjustments, release checks, etc. It is a good indicator of whether a particular model should still be used or not (i.e., if the manufacturer doesn't trust it anymore, then probably neither should you).

Your bindings are on the list, which means Marker still thinks the technology is fine, but as others point out it would be a good idea to have them checked.

BTW, if a binding is not on the list then most shops won't work on them.
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the replies. Both sets of bindings are in good shape (the Markers only have approx 20 days on them over the past few years ... didn't ski the '01 & '02 winters ... and have always been transported inside my car, never on the roof; the Salomons have been in a box since I mounted the Markers). Since many of the replies indicate the technology "enhancements" of today's bindings wouldn't be worth the cost, I'll probably just remount one of the sets I already have, after having them checked at my local shop, of course.

Also, Yuki, I'm not really in the Jersey boonies. I'm in Hunterdon, too, about 10 miles north of you in Lebanon Boro. I do a lot of mtn biking at Round Valley since it's practically in my backyard.
post #10 of 19
I trust the 977's more than any of solly's new stuff, they should be fine.
post #11 of 19
guys, I hate to bring this up, but the thread was originally from January 2003!
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
guys, I hate to bring this up, but the thread was originally from January 2003!
Well ... it's always possible the original poster has spent the last 2-1/2 years really thinking about the question, constantly checking back here for just that extra bit of insight.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
Well ... it's always possible the original poster has spent the last 2-1/2 years really thinking about the question, constantly checking back here for just that extra bit of insight.
I could have sworn there was another reply in here yesterday - maybe the user realised what they'd done, and deleted it!
post #14 of 19
I think posting the current indemnified list in a sticky or FAQ section, might be a good idea.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I think posting the current indemnified list in a sticky or FAQ section, might be a good idea.

www.nssra.com

i dunno how to make it sticky. I think ssh can just add a line to his...

i do know how to make silly posts go away

post #16 of 19
Wow, I am surprised that the Salomon 757 series is still on there. The materials used on them were that awful delran. I would sooner trust a 727 or 737 than those 757's.
post #17 of 19
whoa Phil! That's post no 3000 for you!
Cheers!
Nicely done!

Don't delete it now
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat
I could have sworn there was another reply in here yesterday - maybe the user realised what they'd done, and deleted it!
Yeah. There was a 2005 post in between TonyD and glint. I guess whoever posted it (I don't remember that) deleted it.
post #19 of 19
sjjohnston,
We have a suspect...

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Originally Posted by hrstrat57
i do know how to make silly posts go away
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