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post #31 of 51
still interested?
post #32 of 51
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Originally Posted by iriponsnow
still interested?
Yeah, still waiting for something beyond initial info.
post #33 of 51
we have two new jr. super-g's available this year in 175 and 185 cm's. both have a 27 meter radius and are super-soft. i'm out at mt. hood right now and spent two days on them this week...they rip! ski like a really soft gs ski and come across the hill without any issue. the cool thing about them is that they are very modern in terms of their shapes (a bit wider overall, split bases and low profile tips, etc), most companies just rework old gs molds for their jr speed skis, these are brand new molds.

mark bettencourt
atomic racing east
post #34 of 51
Interesting info, Mark. I can imagine therm being not far from the current GS skis and I would expect something like 97-65 to 66-87/185. Could you give us the dimensions, please?
post #35 of 51
Mark,

How long are you ging to be at Hood?
post #36 of 51
i'm headed back east on wed. but jake will be here until the bitter end.
post #37 of 51
Might have to come down & harass him! How is the snow & coverage up on Palmer?
post #38 of 51
dirt all the way up to the palmer chair, rocks coming through the lanes, downloading since june 1st and raining at the top right now....paradise.
post #39 of 51
WOW,

Sounds just like january at all of our mountains last season!
post #40 of 51
DD:
Email me any questions & I'll also include some pics in the reply!

thanks brian
iriponsnow@aol.com
post #41 of 51
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Originally Posted by logruve_
dirt all the way up to the palmer chair, rocks coming through the lanes, downloading since june 1st and raining at the top right now....paradise.
Experiencing the lack of snow on the glaciers in the Alps and reading this I donĀ“t envy you anything. The ski summer seems to suck everywhere (at least in the northern hemisphere)...
post #42 of 51
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Originally Posted by iriponsnow
DD:
Email me any questions & I'll also include some pics in the reply!

thanks brian
iriponsnow@aol.com
Email has been sent...
post #43 of 51
Nice thread. I have a pair of volkl 218cm volkl DH board w/deflex that I freeski sometimes. 4 sheets of Ti and stiff. You need to get them up to about 40 mph to start carving on them at any sort of angulation. I need more lift on them. They are great for skiing in the 60 mph range, super smooth and stable, quite fun actually. Just don't get caught in the bumps with them, and avoid crowds. I ended up getting a pair of stockli Asteroids in a 201 cm (91mm waist, 35m cut) beacuse I wanted something that could be skied at higher edge angles in choppy snow and some versitilty, but still had nearly the same useable top end.
post #44 of 51
doublediamond223

Do you own any Big mountain Fat Skis? If not you may want to take a hard look.
The side cut is very similar to a SG of GS ski but with a bit less length. (A nice comprimise) for a go fast ski.
post #45 of 51
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My expectations for how much I am going to ski this year have radically changed, as you know if you frequent the lounge. I am from the east, so no, I don't own any big fat skis. The difference is stiffness. The powder rockets have no metal in them, so they wont be much fun on ice, or very quick to edge, but w/e, I am going to be lucky if I get 12 days this year, down from about 50. Therefore I won't be buying anything so specialized. It would have been different if I was skiing 6 days a week...
post #46 of 51
I have a 198cm pair of mint Rossi 9x 9.3 GS skis. I put Deflex plates on 'em and wow, they can really haul ass and hold on anything. A great and sensible SG ski alternative.

I've always been amazed at what a pair of Deflex plates could do to increase stability and edgehold, even on a crappy pair of skis.
post #47 of 51
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223
The difference is stiffness. The powder rockets have no metal in them, so they wont be much fun on ice.
Uhh? Mine have metal in them, 28M side cut. But railing on Ice would not be my first choice (On any ski) However on firm packed powder or the dense stuff we have out west they are a pocket full of E-Tickets (A Disneyland thing)
post #48 of 51
[quote=carvemeister]I've always been amazed at what a pair of Deflex plates could do to increase stability and edgehold, even on a crappy pair of skis /QUOTE]

Forgive my ignorance, what are Deflex plates? I think I know but tell me.
post #49 of 51
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Originally Posted by MTT
Forgive my ignorance, what are Deflex plates?
Deflex plates, formerly known as Derbyflex plates, are the predecessors of all modern riser plates (AFAIK). They are very strong, light and flexible (aluminum alloy?) plates with a lot of rubber between the the ski and the top plate. They screwed and glued into the top of the ski and provided execellent dampening to the ski edge, increasing edge contact on hard snow.

I'm prettty sure almost all serious GS to DH racers used them. Not sure if they are used much anymore, since I can't even Google up any!
post #50 of 51
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Originally Posted by carvemeister
Deflex plates, formerly known as Derbyflex plates, are the predecessors of all modern riser plates (AFAIK). They are very strong, light and flexible (aluminum alloy?) plates with a lot of rubber between the the ski and the top plate. They screwed and glued into the top of the ski and provided execellent dampening to the ski edge, increasing edge contact on hard snow.

I'm prettty sure almost all serious GS to DH racers used them. Not sure if they are used much anymore, since I can't even Google up any!
Sounds basically like what a vist plate is, lots of rubber/polymer-ish stuff that gobbles vibrations with a metal top.
post #51 of 51
[quote=MTT]
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Originally Posted by carvemeister
I've always been amazed at what a pair of Deflex plates could do to increase stability and edgehold, even on a crappy pair of skis /QUOTE]

Forgive my ignorance, what are Deflex plates? I think I know but tell me.
I love my old skis with Derbys on them. Back until 2000 or so EVERYONE that was a serious racer had a Derby on their speed skis and GS skis. They were first simply called a "derbyflex, then "Deflex Hi Ski" or something, than Deflex and finally they were purchased by salomon and said salomon on the plate and Deflex on the front. You still see them around. They vist plate is somewhat similar in the respect that it is rubber and metal but the construction is different. The Salomon plates that were red and gold and that came on the 2v GS skis were basically a dumbed down derby... not sure if that plate is still made, but the original is not.
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