Originally Posted by Skidude72
Rusty...see my post on Non-American spelling! Don't be a typical nieve yank and assume everything you do, is the only way and the right way. Second point, Rusty, Time Zones...again I couldnt possibly explain this Canadian invention to you. But since I am in Australia, you may see that what is in the middle of the night for you, is actually a normal daytime for me.(sigh)
|Here is a solution for you. Take a trip.|
And Thanks. Since I've never been to Oz, that spelling of nieve is new to me. Other than media exposure, my exposure to Aussie culture has been verbally through meeting folks personally. I do make an effort to learn more about the world and "speak locally" as much as possible. Greeting someone in their own language makes a great first impression. And I also make an effort to spell locally when writing my British friends. I have been to Europe and to Chile, but there's only so much one can learn on a budget (will you pardon me if I make my first trip to your part of the world to New Zealand?) . So today for free I've learned that Aussie's spell "English" words differently. For that, I'll give you one on the nieve argument. Thanks again.
BTW - I mentioned irony of the time of the posting vs the content. Since the comment was directed to me and I was sleeping I found it ironic. Since I do note where I am from in my profile, anyone can freely determine which time zone I'm in. Before your post, the only reference I'd seen was Canada, eh? I'll claim victory on irony.
|You said you would support a viable solution. Well since you havent supported my solution, I can only conclude you found it not viable. Why? Why dont you think that if we educated the public on the different levels of cetification, that people wouldnt take advanatage of it? Why wouldn't this increase ski schools demand for full cert pros? Why wouldnt this increase in demand result in increased wages?|
I personally don't believe that the majority of the current lesson taking public would perceive the value of certified instructors enough to create significant demand. For example, 85% of my students last year were levels 1-3. Although I believe they get more benefit from lessons with certified pros, I believe that most of them don't see the benefit because of lack of perspective from experience. I do believe more upper level students would perceive the benefit if they were exposed to the message more effectively. And I do believe that this would result in more lessons taught and in higher pay for certified pros over the long term. But I don't believe that this approach will result in a 400% increase in pay. So despite the fact that I've also seen some distasteful hustling, I'll continue to suggest to those who are upset by the pay scale that there is an option to quickly change their fortune. Nonetheless, I will support viable plans for getting the message out.
The reality is that resorts are reluctant to offer additional products that increase complexity and they know will be hard to staff. It's a chicken and egg thing. If more people were "demanding" certs, then they would be more open to adding the "Certified" lesson product.
[and now we hear from Stache] Stache has consistently promoted the message "Demand a certified pro or demand your money back!". That approach is a bit too much "in your face" for my style, but I won't ask Stache to stop. BTW- Stache, we do get some private lesson requests for specific certification levels. Two years ago, when Sitour did the Chevy Mountain Experience, they gave away free lessons to people sitting through the sales pitch. Sitour "demanded" certified pros for these lessons. And you'll also be surpised to hear that I ran into a few guests this year that recognized and commented on both my AASI and PSIA pins. They also knew what the colors meant. I've also been surprised that quite a few people recognize my pins when I'm free skiing on vacation. Yes I do wear my pins when I'm travelling in order to spread the word by setting a good example. But getting the message out is harder than it looks because getting everyone to agree on a message is hard. Harb's approach is much more effective because much less "internal mass" to overcome.
We have not talked much about the role of culture in determining the worth of instructors. It's my perception that the European culture respects the ski instructor profession because skiing is a more predominant sport and thus an instructor is worth more in Europe. NSAA studies seem to suggest that this aspect of European culture is fading. Dude - can you comment on where Australia fits in on this topic?
So Dude, there are lots of ways to send the message and generate more demand for certified pros. Let's hear about some specific ideas.