Originally Posted by therusty
Anyone else see the irony of the wake up comment versus the time of the post and the naivety of the spelling? (sigh)
Rusty...see my post on Non-American spelling! Don't be a typical nieve yank and assume everything you do, is the only way and the right way. Second point, Rusty, Time Zones...again I couldnt possibly explain this Canadian invention to you. But since I am in Australia, you may see that what is in the middle of the night for you, is actually a normal daytime for me.(sigh)
Originally Posted by therusty
At my home mountain, I've seen a couple pros average $30/hour including tips by pretty much exclusively teaching private requests. That's about 4 times what I average over the season. One of those guys was only a level 2. Would the people complaining about pay be happy with a 400% increase?
We also have two regular groups that bring their own instructors for lessons. Both of these groups have had a fair number of our former pros on their staff over the years.
Please be open to the possibility that some resorts are better than others and that there are enough reasonable resorts out there for pros to consider alternatives than just working for minimum wage if they are interested in doing so.
For the number of hours that I work teaching versus what I make at my full time job, making $30/hour teaching would raise my total income by maybe 5%. That's not enough to make it worthwhile for me to do what my examples did. I'd rather teach than hustle.
I'm not naive. I know what SAM and SSM are doing. Just because I understand where they are coming from does not mean I'm brainwashed. When someone presents a solid action plan for raising instructor pay and the quality/value of the product delivered to the guest, I'll support it.
What am I worth? If I earn a handful of heartfelt smiles each day, I'll call it even. If that pisses you off, I'm not sorry. If you think I'm stupid, you're probably right.
Well Rusty....to be honest I make over $30/hour BEFORE tips...and that is to teach a group lesson! But that is not the point. I also now have an alternate source of income that suits me just fine. I also would rather teach then hussle, as would most of us. I am doing this for the sport.
You are right most lessons are poor. No wonder people dont take them, get frustrated and quit. I admire your American lone ranger approach, but I want to do more. I want to change the whole system so that pros dont quit teaching at 30 to have a family, but rather still stay on part time at least and pass on their knowledge and love for the sport. That will only happen if we make it worth their while.
Which is why I am so against those people who suggest that all we need to do is hussle more privates. I dont think that helps the pros, nor the students. I have often seen these hustlers push/bully people into taking privates. It is not cool. I can teach a small group as effectively, and to be honest probably more effectivley then a private. Groups give people the chance to learn from others as well as meet some new friends.
You said you would support a viable solution. Well since you havent supported my solution, I can only conclude you found it not viable. Why? Why dont you think that if we educated the public on the different levels of cetification, that people wouldnt take advanatage of it? Why wouldn't this increase ski schools demand for full cert pros? Why wouldnt this increase in demand result in increased wages?
Final point. I dont think you are stupid, just nieve. Here is a solution for you. Take a trip. Go somewhere on holiday other then the US! Try Europe, Australia, Asia...you will be amazed, there is a whole world out there!