Sorry I haven’t responded to this earlier, but I do have to work in the summer, and don’t have the luxury of making the big bucks in the winter teaching skiing, that would allow me to take the rest of the year off like many professional athletes do.
It is true that there are programs that are offered at some resorts that are not run by the resorts ski school. But you can bet your behind that the Co who owns the resort is getting a cut, a big cut. You mentioned that the Forestry Service might be willing to listen if someone came with a viable plan. Maybe so, but the resort again would not let them on the mountain because it’s a conflict of interest. Now your proposal that ski instructors should run their own business and be independent of the resort and they would make more money, at least that’s what I think you are saying, Iskitoofast4u, might work in a small “mom and pop” ski area or small day area where the pro might only be teaching part time and didn’t depend on only what he or she made teaching skiing for a living. If you were a part time attorney and a full time millionaire, it wouldn’t be a big deal if you didn’t make that much money teaching skiing, and you might want to try the independent Ski Pro plan, and if you made some money, that would be good. But if you didn’t, what do you care, you’re a millionaire. Pros that really love what they do and want to pursue the profession and try and make a living at it in the winter, like me, would I believe, appreciate being paid a wage that pays the bills. I am in a position to ask management for increases in our wage that won’t only benefit me, but all the Pros in our ski school. And what we are asking for is a cost of living increase that is at least the national average.
Ski Pros that work for the Aspen Ski Co are paid pretty well, (for ski instructors) and we really don’t see to much belly aching. Actually much more than the $15hr you suggested being a fair wage. But with the constant cost of living increases and gas prices running amuck, every winter we end up making less than the season before. Now I feel that every season, (28 now teaching the sport) I am a better teacher and skier than the year before, and to be getting paid less for this every season, I got to say, there’s something not quite right about it. So asking for at least the national average isn’t asking too much, no?
You mention that a seasonal ski pass would only cost $1200.00. Better double that in Aspen, and then it still wouldn’t be good during the busiest times because of black out periods, and that would be when you needed it the most. And try to get health insurance for $3000 that’s worth a damm when you tell the guy who’s asking the questions that you are a ski pro and ski everyday. “Well in that case it might be a little more” he will say.
>>“Resort Take: Depending on the situation, I'd allow them no more than 25% of my profit.<<
You’ll allow???? They would laugh you right out of the office. Then when you cut the Forestry Service in to what you suggested, 10% to 20%, no thanks. My bottom line would be less than what I’m making now to implement your plan.
Now Iskitoofast4u, I kind of resent being called a “Ski Bum”, always have because I am a ski instructor. Just like you probably resent the general public make wise cracks about lawyers, no? The staff that work and teach for the Ski Schools of Aspen are professionals hands down and our company hires the best possible talent available out there. All of our full time staff is fully certified and the average length of employment in our school is 10 to 15 seasons with many of our staff being 20+ years as Ski Pros. You said if the public would start demanding better instruction, thinks would change. We offer the best ski coaches and instruction in the world and it doesn’t get any better. I think justanotherskipro can contest to that, and would agree that we are the best trained and staffed ski school in the world. (of course they pay me to say that) I’m sure there are other ski schools that would disagree, but after coming here and seeing what we do here, they change their minds in short order.
So to sum it all up, again I’m not asking for large monetary increases in my pay, although I sure wouldn’t turn it down. I’m just asking that we get fair increases that would at least match the national cost of living increases. Better yet would be cost of living increases in the Aspen area would be the better of the two. And that our benefits stop decreasing, which is another topic. I know there are other ski schools that pay there pro a lot less than what we get paid. Why don’t they deal with it like we did and work with management for a higher wage and quit whining? There are ways to deal with management and it takes time. But it can be done.
Well, its summer time and best spent riding my MTB than talking about winter time employment.----------Wigs