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post #1 of 16
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Aside from having a Mammoth season pass which will hopefully get some usage in November and early December...we're booked for 8 days in Utah in early January. We're staying at out timeshare in Park City...

We'll ski / ride at Park City, Snowbasin, Powder Mtn, Brighton, The Canyons and Snowbird.

This will be our last trip using this condo. We're going to sell it and get another in Jackson Hole instead.
post #2 of 16
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Originally Posted by K2rider
Aside from having a Mammoth season pass which will hopefully get some usage in November and early December...we're booked for 8 days in Utah in early January. We're staying at out timeshare in Park City...

We'll ski / ride at Park City, Snowbasin, Powder Mtn, Brighton, The Canyons and Snowbird.

This will be our last trip using this condo. We're going to sell it and get another in Jackson Hole instead.
No Alta or Solitude? What?
post #3 of 16
Good luck with your plans. Must be nice having Mammoth as home mtn. I'm curious about how easy it will be for you to sell the PC timeshare. Will you buy another timeshare in JH or use a different real estate transaction; e. g., 100% ownership? Do you want to summarize why leaving UT and heading to WY? I assume you like the idea of one big mountain destination, rather than the smorgasbord at Park City and elsewhere around SLC? Will your expected costs for a one week stay go up or down?

-curious cat
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by Harry Dunn
No Alta or Solitude? What?
(3) of us are snowboarders so Alta is out. I like Solitude when it has fresh snow but it gets old fast if there's no fresh snow. I could skip The Canyons but everybody else loves it.

Snowbasin and Powder Mtn are my (2) favorite places to ride there anyway. I like to stay in the trees as much as possible.
post #5 of 16
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Originally Posted by Jamesj
Good luck with your plans. Must be nice having Mammoth as home mtn. I'm curious about how easy it will be for you to sell the PC timeshare. Will you buy another timeshare in JH or use a different real estate transaction; e. g., 100% ownership? Do you want to summarize why leaving UT and heading to WY? I assume you like the idea of one big mountain destination, rather than the smorgasbord at Park City and elsewhere around SLC? Will your expected costs for a one week stay go up or down?

-curious cat
Mammoth is a great mountain overall but I love to ride in the trees and Mammoth is lacking in this area. If Jackson Hole or Steamboat was next door, I would never even bother with Mammoth.

I don't know about the PC timeshare either. I see them listed all the time for more than I paid. Ours sold for $16K but we bought it as a re-sale for $4500 in 1999. We originally chose that location for the variety of resorts and because airfare into SLC is relatively cheap from Southern Cal. I see them listed nowadays, from the same re-seller we bought from, for $6500. I'm hoping to at least get the $4500 back. The (2) bedrooms in Jackson Hole are about $7-8K from what I've seen. We have been VERY happy with the timeshare concept overall.

I want to leave because the kids are getting older and can handle tougher terrain. As I said on other posts, I actually like the Ogden resorts (Snowbasin and Powder Mtn) best in Utah and as you stated, driving around can get old. We went to JH this season and everybody loved both JH and Grand Targhee.

As far as week long pricing, the airfare to get there will be at least $150 more per person ($600 total) but I don't need a car at JH so that saves me $500. JH lift tix are just as pricey as Utah resorts but GT is much lower. I like the restaurant selection better in JH (gotta have my red meat fix) and the town of JH never saw the need to become "trendy". I'd say that the pricing overall will pretty much be a wash.
post #6 of 16
I don't see why anyone would want to book a ski trip this far in advance.

It's better to wait and see what the conditions are. You can still book and get good rates and airfare 30 days out.
post #7 of 16
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This is a timeshare we actually own so I can cancel up to 14 days in advance w/o any penalty...then just hold on to the week until we use it.

Besides, we're locked into the week we have to go to the our kids' school vacation schedule. Barring some catastrophe (sp?), we're going to Utah to save $$ w/ our timeshare.
post #8 of 16
You better make sure your new timeshare week is in the relatively narrow window of reliable surface conditions at JH. That means January or maybe a week or two into February.
post #9 of 16
I have also got my 2006 ski holiday partially planned, you need to organise ahead with timeshares.

I've exchanged and booked a week at Skiers Lodge in Park City for the gathering in 2006. Is your week here? The location of skiers lodge looks ideal, just wasn't sure about the standard, looked a bit old and dated in the photos. Not that it matters as getting the exact week I wanted and the location more than makes up for it.

On my last trip in 2004 I exchanged for a week at the Jackson Hole Racquet Club. We really enjoyed it there , although it is best to have a car so you may prefer the resort in town, or at Teton Village. A free bus to Teton Village went past our gate each morning, made life easy and mean twe did not have to pay for parking at the base. The car was good to go to get about in the evening, and to go over the Grand Targhee. The racquet club unit we stayed in was due for a revamp, but was really comfortable and has a ski lodge feel to it. Also woke up one morning to find a moose in our front yard, that was pretty cool! We went from 7 Feb and had amazing conditions for the week we were there, but the same week this year had terrible conditions.

I bought my timeshare week second hand like you, only $2750 NZD which at the emoment is only about $1500 USD - I can resell and get my money back. I would not have been pleased if I'd paid the original price of $15-$20K. What I like is that it gives me foreign currency hedging for accomodation on my overseas trips, I pay my annual maint fee and exchange fee in NZ dollars, because my home resort is in NZ. Our dollar was worth as little as 40 c USD in 2000, at the moment it is 72 cents which is a big difference. Either way at least I know my accomodation costs are reasonably fixed regardless of where I stay.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker
You better make sure your new timeshare week is in the relatively narrow window of reliable surface conditions at JH. That means January or maybe a week or two into February.
I'm sure I'd look for the last 2 weeks of February or the first week of March.

I've been to JH in Jan, Feb and March and by far my best trip was a Jan 5-12 trip several years back. It was snowing hard on arrival, the pilot told us he could only make one attempt to land. If he couldn't make it, we'd have to go back to SLC and bus it in. Well, not only did he make it but it snowed EIGHT STRAIGHT DAYS and never stopped. It made it a hassle getting to Grand Targhee and our flight out was cancelled as well....we had to rent a car and go soem long round-about route to get to Idaho Falls to fly out. We literally got to the terminal gate at Idaho Falls with 5 minutes to spare....never could do what we did with post 9-11 rules.
post #11 of 16
The last 2 weeks of February or the first week of March would be serious error at JH, particularly as an every year commitment. I was there at President's weekend in 1995, and if I hadn't skied the Hobacks on the first run of the first day, it would have been baked into cement. The sun was directly in my face there at 10AM, and similarly at noon on Apres Vous.

As SoCal residents we are used to Mammoth, which has some of the finest snow preservation characteristics anywhere. I'm sure you notice that its steeps retain dry winter snow in sunny weather much longer than the flatter areas where the sun is more direct. That is because Mammoth faces north. Since JH faces mostly south the sun has the opposite effect. The steeps have MORE DIRECT SUN than the flats and the transition to cement is in a matter of hours unless it is very cold and/or the sun is low in the sky and weak. Chair 4 at Mt. Baldy is a good analogy.

My first trip to JH was in March 1986. There was a 110-inch base but it was 60 degrees and 3/4 of the mountain was unskiable. After one day we left, drove to SLC and skied Alta/Snowbird the rest of the week. It was just as warm there but those areas face north and there was no problem with snow conditions.

Many areas can mitigate exposure problems by grooming. But the whole point of Jackson is to ski natural steep terrain, hopefully in powder. So the exposure issue is key to enjoyable skiing at JH. Here's another mid-February experience from 2004: http://216.250.243.13/discus2/messag...tml?1078257186
post #12 of 16
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I've learned that it doesn't matter where you go, it's always hit and miss, no matter what anybody likes to admit.

Whistler is a perfect example. I've been there (3) times, ech time a different month, and it's always been BAD compared to my trips to Steamboat which have always been GREAT. Yet, Whistler is considered a "Mecca" by most...I'll never return.

Then this year, my Steamboat trip in February was one of my worst week-long trips ever. The coverage was decent but no fresh to be had, bullet-proof pretty much everywhere...at least it didn't rain like Whistler.

I've been to Mammoth over Memorial Day and had it be 80 degrees with 3-4 runs open and I've been when it snowed 11" on June 1st. You never know what you're going to get. Luckily, I'm getting "old" and don't have the fire & desire to ride all day, every day. Snowboarding/skiing has taken a back seat to dirt biking in the Winter for the time being.

We were researching last night and just may get a condo in Kauai (Hanalei Bay area)instead of a "ski" timeshare.
post #13 of 16
The probabilities of the hit or miss do vary by snowfall, temperature, altitude, exposure. We all know by experience that the chance of the "hit" with big powder on a typical one-week advance-planned trip is typically 20-30%. Since that's not very predictable it pays to minimize the chances of the "miss" by avoiding lean snowfall areas in early season and poorly exposed areas in late season.

In general I'm with Lars and prefer to minimize the chance of a big "miss" by waiting for the season to get started before making an advance commitment.
post #14 of 16
It would behoove you to listen to Tony on this.
post #15 of 16
Booking a one week vacation early march in JH - is one thing.
Buying a timeshare for the 1st week in march in JH - is quite different.

but hey - its your money.

on the other hand - any skiing is better (that too in JH) than this horrible period between april and nov - they call summer in california. (I skied squaw last thanksgiving on a hard-packed 15in base and had a great time. so...)
post #16 of 16
Although I agree with Tony generally, the best week of skiing I have ever had at Jackson Hole was the last week of March in 1989. Conditions were awesome.

Jackson can be great later in the season if its in a favorable weather pattern. Hit or miss, yes.

nate
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