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Heated goggles

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
I had a heck of a time yesterday with my goggles fogging up - worst day ever in years of skiing. The temp was hovering right around freezing, high humidity so the snow guns were blasting something more like freezing rain (helmet was coated in ice), etc. etc. Wearing a helmet is new for me this year, so I'm sure that didn't help with airflow. Anyway ...

I know about the kind with the fan and that they are supposed to work well.

I have also have heard of goggles with a built in heater (touted as a NASA technology transfer triumph), but have never seen any around. Anybody have any experience with them?

Tom / PM
post #2 of 18
I have vague memories of skiing with a guy wearing heated goggles 20+ years ago in Jackson. They were made by Smith, supposed to solve the fogging problems and were before the Turbos came out. They seemed to work OK until he put his face in the snow. Warm goggle lenses instantly melted the snow that came into contact with them and, almost as instantly, the colder temperature of the snowpack overpowered the heated lense creating a sheet of ice on the lenses that it took some time to chip and melt away.
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
Interesting. Sounds like the recent RSA thread about newbies that take their skis right from a warm car and lay them on the snow for 5 or 10 min b4 they click in: Instant immobility!

So, turbo's the way to go these days?

Tom / PM

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 20, 2002 08:35 PM: Message edited 2 times, by PhysicsMan ]</font>
post #4 of 18
My son has them ... he likes em!

One other instructor has em .... he loves em!

Me .... can't afford em! List is $190. I bought them for Jr. Racer because I figured it was cheaper than a trip to the clinic. That kid would ski with the gore from a bird strike on his goggles.
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 
Whoa - $190 !!! I didn't realize they were so pricy. I've bought skis for less than that. Maybe I better give the no-fog wipes another try and spray my face with "Sure" as somebody suggested.

Tom / PM
post #6 of 18
The helmet will keep you warmer and airflow is slightly restricted so fogging can be more of a problem. I found that if I do a good job of regulating my body/core temp fogging is less of a problem. I open my vents on my jacket and allow my body to cool and this seems to help with the fogging problem. My oakley glasses used to have a fog problem until I started paying attention to my core body temp..

Just a thought..
post #7 of 18
One nice thing about helmet is that when it is not complete blizard you can put the goggles up on the lift and let your face cooldown and remove prespiration from around your eyes.
My goggles fog up the most when I am done with the run and hanging out in the lift line or when I am waiting for the group to catch up. So it is nice to be able to lift the goggles up.

What dchan said about body temperature. But that is sometimes is hard, given temperature differences between sitting on the lift and standing around in the trees after a good run.

So far I have more benefits from helmet in terms of fighting the fog.

post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 
dchan - Good thought & I will keep it in mind for the future. I certainly have experienced the effect of fogging due to overheating as you described. However, in this particular incident, I was at our small local hill standing around a lot on greens and blues, so I wasn't working up any sweat whatsoever. They had all the snow guns on and the temp/humidity conditions were so marginal, that when I went in for a break, my helmet was encrusted almost all the way around with a 2 mm thick shell of ice (as was my pack, parka, etc.). ugh!

eug - I tried putting my goggles up when on the lift (as you suggested), but that made matters much, MUCH worse under these conditions. It allowed the inner lens of the goggle to cool down, so that when I put them back on, water condensed on the inner surface of the inner lens even faster. I think Pierre or someone else mentioned that their favorite anti-fog tactic was to put their goggles down while exiting the lodge, and keep them down at all times thereafter. That approach seemed to work for me as well as anything else.

Thanks guys.

Tom / PM
post #9 of 18
I have had good experiences with the Smith Turbos. There are different models. I saw the Apex for sale for $90 last fall. A great deal. Smith makes a helmet compatible model which basically holds the lens further from your face. The straps attach to the goggle further out also.

The conditions you describe seem fairly extreme though. I will admit that my Turbo's fog up while hiking and it's hard to get them clear. Also if I face plant effectively enough to get snow in them, they usually fog up. So...I think you have to ask yourself, how often is fogging really a problem, and is it worth the $190. I'd like to think that it was worth it for me...but I may just be trying to rationalize spending 5 days worth of lift tickets on a pair of goggles.
post #10 of 18
From the people that I know that use TURBO's they would not use anything else.
Here they are to buy...
Smith Cascade Turbo
post #11 of 18
Most older goggles have vents on the top. Helmets cover the vents. Get new goggles with vents in the lense. $30.00 should do it, or you could buy 6 pairs, different tints and still be cheaper than the turbo...
post #12 of 18
The problem I've had with my A frames which have vents in their lenses, is that in very bad conditions, you get so much snow around & in the vents that they cause the lenses to fog over. I ended up skiing Whistler in glasses, even though it was close to white-out, cause my glasses fogged up less than my goggles!

post #13 of 18
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yuki:
Me .... can't afford em! List is $190. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can buy lots of goggles for $190. I tend to break or scratch my goggles about once every 3 to 4 years. Putting them on inside and keeping them on all day works for me, exept when i ski deep powder (faceplant [img]smile.gif[/img]). Then tissues work wonders.
post #14 of 18

I paid a bit less than that. My son races and he wears glasses. With the sweat they work up running gates, safety was the deciding issue. Most of his fog is from exertion.

I (almost) never wear goggles. I hate them. Killer Loop wrap arounds are about my limit.
post #15 of 18
Haven’t seen any with heaters but do have the fan- type goggles. Have always had bad problems with fog. Wear glasses under the goggles and thought it might be because I only use glass and no plastic. Just a preference. Anyway, I’ve tried everything from soap to “Cat Crap”. Last year they had the fan type goggles on sale at the pre-season sales for about $120. Couldn’t bring myself to put out the money. After fogging up regularly and getting really frustrated I went to buy a pair but then they were close to $200 so I told myself if they were on sale at the shows this year I’d buy them. Others on this board have said they work well. Anyway they were and I did. They do help but they’re definitely not a cure all. When I get to working hard I still have problems. I’m still glad I bought them though because anything that helps is welcome. There’s nothing worse than getting into some heavy crud and not being able to wee where “not” to turn. I’d recommend them. Other non-foggin input would be welcome.
post #16 of 18
I tried my fifty cent Turbos for the first time today in below freezing, windy, snowing conditions. I was the only one, of the five of us, that did not complain about fogging...they worked great.

Fifty cents???? Yup I bought them for fifty cents at a local ski swap meet...The batteries were even still good.
post #17 of 18
BobT,, another thing to help to keep your glasses from fogging under the goggles is to use RainX Anti fog on the glasses. I use Turbo Cams but i also use RainX anti fog stuff on glasses too. That combo should do the trick for fogging glasses. Plus i reaply when ever i go inside, i cary the RainX Anti fog cloth towel they sell in a zip lock bag.
post #18 of 18
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Whoa - $190 !!! I didn't realize they were so pricy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Use the 11th commandment: Thou shalt not pay retail.

You can buy turbo goggles in the spring for half price or better at many ski shop spring closeout sales. I have a pair and swear by them on powder days. I suggest getting a model that is intended for use with eye glasses even if you don't wear glasses. It has much more air volume between the lens and your face so you're less likely to fog.
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