EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › AmerSports (Atomic) acquires Salomon
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

AmerSports (Atomic) acquires Salomon - Page 2

post #31 of 48
Squarehead's and a french men working together......who would of thought!!!!

Or is it Frenchmen now working for square heads!!!!!!
post #32 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1larry
Squarehead's and a french men working together......
The jury is still out on this...
post #33 of 48
2 posts by 1larry within 12 hrs. , obviously he's very bored.
As for the carbon fibre barstool , in the past I would have been a tad worried about the potential splintering if there was ever an incident. But with the new materials I may just be talked into a beer perched upon most anything.
post #34 of 48
yup bored!.......you mean time to think and have a beer?
post #35 of 48
I am sure just like every other accusition, this will be strictly financial. Why do you guys always think that if someone gets bought out, everything's going to change? Businesses buy other business on a dailey basis with nothing changing. Why do you think the ski industry would be any different?
post #36 of 48
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sars
I am sure just like every other accusition, this will be strictly financial. Why do you guys always think that if someone gets bought out, everything's going to change? Businesses buy other business on a dailey basis with nothing changing. Why do you think the ski industry would be any different?
Because business aquistions occur all the time and often the playing field changes dramatically sometimes for better sometimes for worse but it changes. How can it not? The changes may be gradual enough as not to be noticed and may largely occur behind the scene but still impact the end user in some way.
post #37 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by sars
Businesses buy other business on a dailey basis with nothing changing.
The reverse is also true.
post #38 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by sars
I am sure just like every other accusition, this will be strictly financial. Why do you guys always think that if someone gets bought out, everything's going to change? Businesses buy other business on a dailey basis with nothing changing. Why do you think the ski industry would be any different?
One point:

In the M&A business, people typically talk of acquisitions falling into two general categories: financial and strategic.

This would pretty obviously be categorized as strategic, not financial.

You think if it were financial, Amer would just happen to buy a sporting goods company?

Another:

In strategic acquisitions, the point is typically to change something, either in the way the target does business, or in the way the target and the acquiror work together. That doesn't necessarily mean something will happen in two weeks ... but in time.

Even in financial acquisitions, the acquiror also often makes changes in how the target does business.

Indeed, even when there's an acquisition in which the acquiror says over and over -- and it even looks like it really is the case -- that management will keep their hands off the target's business ... the standard advice is not to rely on that, or at least not for long. It's a fairly standard observation that even the best and truest intention not to interfere in the target only lasts until a few months (if that) after the first period in which the target produces results that fall below expectations.

That's speaking in general terms. What Amer has in mind for Salomon (and Atomic!) is pretty speculative, at least based on what little I know.
post #39 of 48
There was a large group of French racers on the Kaunertal Glacier now. They were on Rosssignol and Salomon skis and no one on Atomics. Al least for now.
post #40 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by sars
Why do you think the ski industry would be any different?
Well after Amer bought Volant, the Volant ski line sure did get thinned, and I'm not just talking about the Chubb and Fat Bastard.
post #41 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1larry
Squarehead's and a french men working together......who would of thought!!!!

Or is it Frenchmen now working for square heads!!!!!!
Squareheads? Are you translating "les maudites têtes carrées"? That only applies to Anglos. Dumb frogs... :
post #42 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by volantaddict
Well after Amer bought Volant, the Volant ski line sure did get thinned, and I'm not just talking about the Chubb and Fat Bastard.
Thinned? Amer saved Volant from extinction. I think the line was expanded from non-existence.
post #43 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman
Thinned? Amer saved Volant from extinction. I think the line was expanded from non-existence.
Well, the 2004 line had 17 models, and the 2005 line had 10 (this includes the "hand-made"s as separate models, as listed in Ski Canada magazine). What would have happened to Volant if Amer hadn't bought them is another matter. My point is that Amer has shown that it will adjust lines offered by the brands it owns according to their marketing strategy. That is all I was trying to say.

Could anyone tell me how long Dynamic has been owned by Amer, and what changes to their line occured after they were aquired?
post #44 of 48
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman
Thinned? Amer saved Volant from extinction. I think the line was expanded from non-existence.
That's a good point. Zero is less than two or 20 last I checked.

Atomic has owned dynamic for about 20 years I believe so Amer has owned them for the same length of time as they owned Atomic.
post #45 of 48
Alois Rohrmoser bought Dynamic in 1983.
Atomic has been under Amer since 1995.

Dynamic skis underwent some changes, they first left alpine racing on the WC level (Heidi Zeller-Bähler was 3rd overall in WC 1995 as the last Dynamic-star), than they were targeted mostly at the French customer with bias off-piste, and finally they came back into WC last season with Nika Fleiss and Ana Jelusic.

I have always wondered that and why Amer/Atomic let the brand survive. No one outside of France could wonder if they had not.
Based on the Dynamic history 1983-2005 there is no reason to take Amer/Atomic as liquidators of smaller brands.

There are 6 Genesis and 6 Vertex models in the Volant 05/06 line.
post #46 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkracer
There are 6 Genesis and 6 Vertex models in the Volant 05/06 line.
Where did you find this out? I get a "page not found" when I try to go to the Volant website. What new models did they add. I expect that it would be one Genesis and one Vertex, but what flavor?

BTW, thanks for the info on Dynamic.
post #47 of 48
Volant ski catalog 05/06, printed version. Available thru Atomic, I got my copy at the Munich SHOW in February together with Atomic and Dynamic catalogs.

Unfortunately, I don´t know last years Volant line and therefore can´t say what is new.
Platinum Hand Finished 111-71-98
Platinum 111-71-98
M2 118-76-106
M 117-80-106
Gold 11-66-99
Silver 110-68-98
They are all both as Genesis and as Vertex. The dimensions seem to be the same (here: Genesis rounded up).
Hope it helps.
post #48 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkracer
Volant ski catalog 05/06, printed version. Available thru Atomic, I got my copy at the Munich SHOW in February together with Atomic and Dynamic catalogs.

Unfortunately, I don´t know last years Volant line and therefore can´t say what is new.
Platinum Hand Finished 111-71-98
Platinum 111-71-98
M2 118-76-106
M 117-80-106
Gold 11-66-99
Silver 110-68-98
They are all both as Genesis and as Vertex. The dimensions seem to be the same (here: Genesis rounded up).
Hope it helps.
Hey thanks, the M2 seems to be the new addition. Very interesting, every model from last year has been made wider in the tips.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › AmerSports (Atomic) acquires Salomon