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K2 fan, but open to change

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Time for a K2 update! I am interested in the K2 Public Enemy, but open to trying something new. I am a expert skier and a risk taker on the mountain when it comes to speed, jumps, ect. I'll only be purchasing one set of skis, so something that works well in powder and groomed slopes would be perfect. Any recommendations? How would you rate the K2 Public Enemy's? Thanks for your help.
post #2 of 16
I have three days on the 169 PEs with telebindings. In both parallel and tele turns, the PEs have nice rebound and carving ability. The durability and heft are well-suited to crud busting. I haven't gotten them in deep powder yet but I suspect that they would do well. They do leave a nice rooster tail to keep tailgaiters at bay. So far, no complaints.
post #3 of 16

red blodded americun!

Not that the feelings of a thousand or so unemployed North Western Americans who are now in the unemployment line would matter, but a ski made in China, where the labor is about ten cents an hour and you didn't see that reflected in the price of the skis did you?

Plenty of other brands to choose from at good prices this time of year.

Besides, my K-2's didn't last long and none of my friends K-2's lasted more than a season, so I'm not inclined to go back down that road anyway.

Bad "joss" ... (luck or fortune) .... as the Chinese would say!
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by Yuki
Not that the feelings of a thousand or so unemployed North Western Americans who are now in the unemployment line would matter, but a ski made in China, where the labor is about ten cents an hour and you didn't see that reflected in the price of the skis did you?

Plenty of other brands to choose from at good prices this time of year.

Besides, my K-2's didn't last long and none of my friends K-2's lasted more than a season, so I'm not inclined to go back down that road anyway.

Bad "joss" ... (luck or fortune) .... as the Chinese would say!
I think we have an unsatisfied customer here!

I've been perfectly happy with my PE's. I don't see how someone can make this ski last only a year- unless you're skiing on rocks and ice all season. Mine are in great shape and I have at least 40 days on them. I'd recommend looking at the Seth Pistols too if you like the PEs.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
I see there are some mixed feeling's about K2's. Does anybody have a suggestion for an AWESOME men's all mountian ski?
post #6 of 16

Funny you should ask. Just the other 16 weeks we were talking about . ..

Freeze Dried, pop on over to the Review forum and sort by Reply Count thus.

Or by View Count thus.

Better start training that upper body for the Parking Lot Carry.
post #7 of 16
I've never been hard on skis. I don't pamper them but I don't beat them either.

My friends last (2) pair of Merlins lasted less than a season. He was a 200 pounder who took an occasional jump but 95% of the time he was pushing level 1 classes. Major tip cracks and eventual delamination. By jump, I mean the "lame" little ones in a Pocono terrain park .... not major stuff ... a 3' pop is nothing to write home to mom about.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Yuki
I've never been hard on skis. I don't pamper them but I don't beat them either.

My friends last (2) pair of Merlins lasted less than a season. He was a 200 pounder who took an occasional jump but 95% of the time he was pushing level 1 classes. Major tip cracks and eventual delamination. By jump, I mean the "lame" little ones in a Pocono terrain park .... not major stuff ... a 3' pop is nothing to write home to mom about.
Weren't the Merlins from the pre-China-production era of K2 skis?
post #9 of 16
I just have to wonder if a move in production to China will help the quality?
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Freeze Dried
I see there are some mixed feeling's about K2's. Does anybody have a suggestion for an AWESOME men's all mountian ski?
I'm not a big K2 fan, but my son skis the PE as an all mountain ski and just loves these skis. He has about 60 days on them with no durability issues at all.

My pick for an awesome all mountain ski is the Legend 8000.
post #11 of 16
Where do you do most of your skiing? it would help if you gave a littel more info on yourself and the conditions you normaly ski. Just to give you something to look into The new Volkl Mantra has been getting raves from a wide range of skiers. Even reps for other ski brands are saying that Volkl really hit hit the mark with the Mantra.
post #12 of 16
personally, I love my PE's. They've been my primary skis for the past 2 seasons and have seen the snow probably at least 150 days. I have had no durability issues at all, and I have pushed the hell out of my PE's. They have seen ice, bumps, groomers, pow, rocks (unfortunately, good thing I enjoy tuning), air, some rails, some boxes and no major issues. I've never heard anyone complain about the PE's (in person) and the most common gripe I've heard on the net is about weight (as a park ski they are a little heavy, but nothing unmanagable). I'd recomend them to anyone, and have referred to them as the best bang for the buck ski I've ever had.

Yuki, you commented about older Merlins and gettign stress cracks leading to delam, normally this is primarily caused by landing on the tails, causing the tips to snap down to the snow, which is bad form in the air, not poor construction/quality. However, you mentioned they were used "pushing level 1" classes, so I'm guessing these skis got run over a "few" times as well, students have done more damage to my skis over the years than I have, so that might have exaserbated the problem.
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input. Utah49 - I ski primarily in Mammoth. Lot's of powder days throughout the season, and a long spring with corn kernal snow and some icy spots. I can hit groomers, soft stuff, moguls, all in a day! I like speed! I hope that helps with any further suggestions. It sounds like lots of people like Volkl's and Atomic's. Something for me to consider....hmmmm
post #14 of 16
I am a huge fan of the Fischer Race SC, and I understand the RX 8 is also outstanding.
post #15 of 16
I have the PEs in 179... funny thing about them as Manus said too, they always get picked to go to the hill... took about 40 days on mine this season ...MT, UT, NY, VT, NH.....they can do just about everything well from 2 feet pow to ice... only wish they made a 189 PE
post #16 of 16
The Elan M666 Fusion is a fantastic ski for all of the conditions and uses you describe. Floats well in new snow, handles crud and slop smoothly, turns quickly in the bumps, holds really well on ice, and I have not yet found a speed at which they don't feel solid.
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