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post #31 of 40
Lisa is especially focused on her abilities and her learning. I think she's a bit hypersensitive on that subject, seems she is more self-effacing than most female skiers.


I measure with a ruler, micrometer, or slide digital caliper. depends on my need for precision.

can't beat that with a stick or a crack pipe.
post #32 of 40

Well as someone else mentioned, it's alot easier in the beginning to 'see' the improvement.

I KNOW I have improved this year - but yeah Duh, this is my first real season:
First ski day was Dec 19th - spent alot of time eating snow on green slopes, with painful tight legs. By ski Day 14 on April 23rd, I was standing at the top of the Loveland Divide Chair. Was the performance pretty? No. Was I scared? Hell yes. But did I fall down? No....... Therefore - IMPROVEMENT! LOL

In the interim, things felt smoother, a bit more natural, a bit faster... and I was still having fun - that was the improvement. Is it pretty? No - not yet. But I gotta leave SOMEthing for next year......
post #33 of 40
Originally Posted by DrFRAU

Well as someone else mentioned, it's alot easier in the beginning to 'see' the improvement.
I have heard this said that as you get better, improvement is slower. In my experience this is not true.

The more in touch with what my skis and my body are doing, the quicker I'm learning. In the past if someone gave me a tip, it might or might not have helped. Now I can even visualize something on the drive to the mountain, try it out, and in the first run feel what it does. This self/ski awareness, if you will, allows me to have breakthroughs practically every day I ski!
post #34 of 40
Originally Posted by nolo
how does a person measure their skiing improvement in an objective, nondelusional way?
Suggestion: Replace 'objective' with 'relative'.
post #35 of 40
measure improvement?
by the number of chicks you can impress of course!

for me, improving was dropping in behind someone way better than I was and trying to keep up. the breakthrough was when suddenly I could.
post #36 of 40
For me it was getting from the point where skiing was a learning experience and a chore to the point where skiing is actually fun. This happened last season. I finally got to the point where I wasn't thinking about what I should be doing at all times, I was just doing it. The natural feeling of the movement and the progression of speed let me know that I had improved and that I was ready for more challenging terrain. Oh, that feeling plus the huge smile I had on my face.
post #37 of 40
put the yard stick behind you...
post #38 of 40
I agree with John Mason or Big Jim. I measure my improvements by what I can ski and how I feel like when I am skiing it. Timing is not really an option unless you race the same race course all the times. Comparing final placements is definitely more likely to provide a meaningful answer. The last part of the season I made a quick trip to Sunshine Village to ski Delirium Dive. I skied it 4 years ago and I skied it like cr... This time it was definitely better and I should have been since I devoted most of my time out West during the last 2 years to ski difficult terrain. A friend of mine with some dough in his wallet had a chance to do some Heliskiing in Alaska. He said that it was an experience like nothing he has ever tried before and had to learn a total new approach both mentally and technically. This means that to improve you have to continuously push yourself into unchartered territory. Of course, getting certified at an extra level also means that someone thinks you have improved when compared to the old self, but after what I witnessed back in March, I only say that even if they don't certify you at the next level, you may still have improved a lot since I stopped believing in certifications as some sort of bible contents.
post #39 of 40
I remember knowing I improved when I went back to my local ski haunt after two years skiing big rocky mountain and found that I could ski the main chairlift black diamond bump run top to bottom, no stops, and not even get winded.
post #40 of 40
[quote=John Mason]It's a good question. I recently finished my 2nd year skiing with over 50 days per year. In my case, what I liked doing was going back to a place where I was a year before, but hadn't been much if any during the year. For instance spring skiing at nubs their last weekend. This let me compare how easy a time I have of it now in junk and crud where the year before this would have really bothered me.

Also, each year I've been going to Mt Hood. I only do this in the summer. So this gives me that 1 time a year comparison to the year before on the same slope.

Nolo - your area, I only go to Big Sky once per year. I always do the Africa bump run among others. Each year this is dramatically easier than the year before.

DITTO! Only at Snowbird-- once a year I take the "Real Exam"! I get in powder and/or very steep and it brings meaning to the things I have been working on all year; strong inside half, recentering at transition and being more dynamic.
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