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Why can't you ski with sun glasses?

post #1 of 73
Thread Starter 
From the Goggle tan thread :

I can ski as fast with my Maui Jims as I do with goggles. Yet some people can't ski fast with sun glasses, why is that?
post #2 of 73
I guess it depends on the shape of the glasses. I usualy ski with sun glasses, a model that does not let wind in my eyes. The only time I feel the need to use googles is when I ski (and crash in...) deep powder.
post #3 of 73
Sun glasses are not straped tight around your head.

MTT
post #4 of 73
Oakley M-frames work great.
post #5 of 73
I only wear goggles when it is precipating heavily. The rest of the time I wear wrap around sunglasses.
post #6 of 73
contact lenses
post #7 of 73
In my experience it is a function of the air temperature, speed and type of glasses. I have some wraparound Brikos, with a sealing strip not unlike goggles on the top of the frame. and find that unless it is extremely cold I have no problems with eyes watering, even at high speeds. Some other glasses cause discomfort at a wider range of temperatures.

Also depends on whether you are wearing a hat or a helmet as this alters the airflow over your eyes a bit.
post #8 of 73
They bounce.
post #9 of 73
I swear by my Rudy Project Kerosene sunglasses. The Rudy Project stuff is specifically developed for action sports and have no issues with fogging, instability, or wind leakage. Their "Mask" goggles are pretty cool too.

www.rudyprojectusa.com
post #10 of 73
It comes down to the quality and fit of your sunglasses. I have never had a problem with my Maui Jim's in any way. They have some wrap to protect from wind, and fit my head so they don't bounce or slide. I also wear one of those croakie things on them, so if i was to fall, they stay around my neck. Only go to goggles in snow or strong wind.
post #11 of 73
For me, while the Maui Jims are great in very warm weather, I need goggles to keep my eyes from watering on most occasions. People are different in this respect. If I must get special wind blocking sun glasses, I might just as well wear goggles while skiing, putting them up on my helmet when not and using the MJ's when the googles are up on the helmet.
post #12 of 73
I wear goggles with my helmet, but I was in glasses at A this week with UL and bong. They are Bolle wraps, and work really well. Not that we were skiing all that fast...
post #13 of 73
I founnd that since i wear Rx glasses, i have to wear goggles, if not the wind whips around behind the lenses, thus i get tears streming down. Sunglasses, if not the big wrap around type, have the same effect. I refuse to buy the Rx goggles. To damn ugly
post #14 of 73
I wear Rx Glasses. WHen skiing, I either use my A-Frames over my glasses, Monster Dawgs or M-Frames. It's all good...depending upon conditions.
post #15 of 73
I don't like to ski hard with sunglasses on because a good face plant can break the glasses and damage your face. When I worked in product safety, I saw a couple of nasty cases like this (not from skiing though - there's no snow where I live) where broken plastic or frame screws ripped nasty gashes into people's eye areas. Of course, the risk of this depends on the design and quality of the glasses but I doubt any would be as safe as a good pair of goggles.
post #16 of 73
It depends on the shape of the glasses and the air temperature and how fast you ski.
When it's cold eyes will tear up sooner, but even on a warm day, sun-glasses won't let me ride a motorcycle past about 85 mph. I'm guessing that glasses are typically good for about 50 mph. On cold days on downhill course runs it has sometimes been necessary to tape up the vent holes on goggles.
post #17 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Capacity
From the Goggle tan thread :

I can ski as fast with my Maui Jims as I do with goggles. Yet some people can't ski fast with sun glasses, why is that?
excessive tears, causing soft high water content contact lens to flop out of the eye.
post #18 of 73
I had a lens pop out - into my goggles, fortunately - on one of the steeper, gnarlier trails I like to attempt. I had to lean against the hill, find my contact, wet it in my mouth, and put it in with no mirror available. I finished the run in one of my best performances. There was something about overcoming the adversity that fired me up!

Tearing usually does not cause lost lenses - it causes teary vision, which is bad.
post #19 of 73
Prescription sunglasses when it's sunny, prescription glasses under goggles when the light is flat or when it is snowing. My glasses always have a strap on back to retain them in case of a fall. The combination actually gives a multi-tone look to my goggle tan: very tan face, lightly tanned big circle, fish belly pale little circle, depending on how much coverage there has been around my eyes. :

I find that my eyes tear more under the sunglasses when I'm riding a lift with a howling wind coming from off my shoulder in the middle of January. At that point I might go back to the goggles if only to avoid freezing my eye.
post #20 of 73
Smith Slider sunglasses in all conditions except when it is snowing...commonly drop 20-40 feet into 2-3 feet of pow with smith's w/o any extra strap, no problems. Contact lenses, too. Minor eye watering, but that is at GS-type speeds
post #21 of 73
It seems as though there is no absolute when it comes to eyewear at speed. Unprotected, my eyes tear while teaching on beginner slopes (and no, I'm not doing the Mach 5 "Follow me!" progression ). While skiing at normal (or normal for some of us I guess) speeds, however, I've yet to find a sunglass that can keep my eyes from tearing.

Interestingly enough, certain brands or models of goggles don't keep my eyes from tearing either, so as I stated above I suspect our eyes have different tolerances when it comes to wind.

I know eye color can have an effect on the amount of sun one can handle w/out sunglasses (lighter colored eyes are generally more sensitive to light), I wonder if it can have an effect on tearing as well? I can't see how, but...? I also wonder if contact lenses change the equation, although I personally seem to discredit this theory, as I wear contacts yet am very sensitive to both sunlight and wind.

Thank god I'm still young enough to enjoy the routine of goggles down at 8:30 a.m., up as the lesson requires (student meet & greet as well as pertinent explanations, emotional exchanges (: , etc.), then back down until 4:00 or the bar, whichever occurs first!
post #22 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by closh
I don't like to ski hard with sunglasses on because a good face plant can break the glasses and damage your face. When I worked in product safety, I saw a couple of nasty cases like this (not from skiing though - there's no snow where I live) where broken plastic or frame screws ripped nasty gashes into people's eye areas. Of course, the risk of this depends on the design and quality of the glasses but I doubt any would be as safe as a good pair of goggles.
I face-planted wearing high end Oakleys and cut myself up pretty bad...
post #23 of 73
"I face-planted wearing high end Oakleys and cut myself up pretty bad"

I find that surprising, heres why. Way back when Oakleys first came out one of their earlier models were the Sub-Zeros. In the advertisement for those glasses they said, "They can withstand a shotgun blast from 50 yards." I owned a pair for about a year, they got scratched after a while, as most oakleys do. So in one of my brilliant ideas we decides to film us shooting them with a shotgun from 50 yards, annd then we would send in the video and get free glasses! Anyway the plan went awry from the getgo, the video camera batteries were dead so while they were charging my buddy took a practice shot, but the glasses where already in place. The result? The plastic frames shattered of course, but the lenses were amazingly intact, you could see buckshot marks in them and a crack or two but they did not break.

I ski with sliders as well. My eyes never tear up. I hate wearing goggles allthough in tight trees I find I have to put them on or I keep raising my arms to brush away branches....

Alfonse
post #24 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfonse
"I face-planted wearing high end Oakleys and cut myself up pretty bad"

I find that surprising, heres why. Way back when Oakleys first came out one of their earlier models were the Sub-Zeros. In the advertisement for those glasses they said, "They can withstand a shotgun blast from 50 yards." I owned a pair for about a year, they got scratched after a while, as most oakleys do. So in one of my brilliant ideas we decides to film us shooting them with a shotgun from 50 yards, annd then we would send in the video and get free glasses! Anyway the plan went awry from the getgo, the video camera batteries were dead so while they were charging my buddy took a practice shot, but the glasses where already in place. The result? The plastic frames shattered of course, but the lenses were amazingly intact, you could see buckshot marks in them and a crack or two but they did not break.


Alfonse
I'm sorry, but that is absolutely hysterical! Not b/c of the stupidity of the exercise, but b/c you actually went through with something which my friends and I seriously considered. But for lack of a shotgun, we too would have been blasting away at a pair of Sub-Zeros.

Forget a free pair of Oakley's, that's worth a commercial, magazine ad, and billboard on top of free glasses! It's a crying shame that the legal department would never allow your story to get out...
post #25 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzostrike
excessive tears, causing soft high water content contact lens to flop out of the eye.

Awwwwww.....Gonzo is an an old softie that cries a lot. Quit watching all those Lifetime movies Gonz, maqybe that'll help.
post #26 of 73
I didn't see any injuries from the lenses breaking (although this could happen with some brands) - they came from the frames breaking and gouging flesh. One really nasty gash was caused by a pointy screw attaching the arm to the front frame that became partly exposed and was driven into a guys face when the frame snapped.

Of course, if you don't fall this won't be a problem but I'll stick to wearing goggles.
post #27 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfonse
"I face-planted wearing high end Oakleys and cut myself up pretty bad"

I find that surprising, heres why. Way back when Oakleys first came out one of their earlier models were the Sub-Zeros. In the advertisement for those glasses they said, "They can withstand a shotgun blast from 50 yards." I owned a pair for about a year, they got scratched after a while, as most oakleys do. So in one of my brilliant ideas we decides to film us shooting them with a shotgun from 50 yards, annd then we would send in the video and get free glasses! Anyway the plan went awry from the getgo, the video camera batteries were dead so while they were charging my buddy took a practice shot, but the glasses where already in place. The result? The plastic frames shattered of course, but the lenses were amazingly intact, you could see buckshot marks in them and a crack or two but they did not break.

I ski with sliders as well. My eyes never tear up. I hate wearing goggles allthough in tight trees I find I have to put them on or I keep raising my arms to brush away branches....

Alfonse
The glasses didn't break, just the frames were pushed against my eyebrow pretty hard. I was cut above the eye and couldn't see as the blood was rushing down my face. Maybe I would have been cut even if I wasn't wearing glasses but I am sure I would not have been cut had I been wearing goggles. BTW Try blasting them while they are against something and use a large shot size (00 Buck, for instance). I am willing to bet they will shatter...
post #28 of 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuntCok
The glasses didn't break, just the frames were pushed against my eyebrow pretty hard. I was cut above the eye and couldn't see as the blood was rushing down my face. Maybe I would have been cut even if I wasn't wearing glasses but I am sure I would not have been cut had I been wearing goggles. BTW Try blasting them while they are against something and use a large shot size (00 Buck, for instance). I am willing to bet they will shatter...
Or better yet, wrap them around the plutonium core of a nuclear weapon...I bet they will be vaporized! lol
post #29 of 73
I skied with PanOptics for a number of years (hoping they'll resurface in the gear pile soon).
With a strap, they've always been great, even in weather.
I tear up immediately in any other sunglasses.
But I haven't tried many wrap-arounds.
post #30 of 73
I always ski with Maui Jim Sports... Until it gets nasty, when there is snow and other crap in the air... it's time to pull out the goggles. The Maui Jim's are pretty rugged and come with a semi-hard carry case. And I usually carry a small backpack with extra gloves and other change outs. Skied all week at Park City under blue skys in the sun glasses.
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