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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I could be possibly be way off but it seems that the process to mount a ski binding is pretty straight forward. I read Brian's instructions (forskiers.com) and it does not seem very complicated.

Is it that simple or I am missing something?

The only thing I would do differently from forskiers.com is:

1- After marking the holes, use a punch or drift to start the hole to prevent the drill from walking.

2- Use a waterproof glue. They recommend using regular Elmer's white glue, I prefer something like Titebond III or something more water resistant. Or how about silicone caulk?

Comments? Corrections?
post #2 of 15
The punch is a good idea. Don't use any glue stronger than elmers if you think you'll ever want to take your bindings off. I don't use glue at all and I've never had a problem.
post #3 of 15
Any fool can mount their own bindings, and most do . Unless you have you own jig, the right bit, a vermont calibrater and knowledge of the various forward pressures if your bindings. I wouldn't advise it. Even one degree off, one way or the other will make a binding either pre-relase or not release at all. The $25.00 or what ever a shop charges, is a fair price for a ton of peice of mind.

*all of this is regarding a ski that is NOT pre drilled. Since you were talking about a hole punch and such. I figured thats what you meant.
post #4 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Unless you have you own jig, the right bit, a vermont calibrater and knowledge of the various forward pressures if your bindings. I wouldn't advise it. Even one degree off, one way or the other will make a binding either pre-relase or not release at all.
Gimme a freakin' break.... :

You are probably the same type that leaves oil changes and brake jobs to the "experts" too.

It ain't rocket science.
post #5 of 15
Phil is absolutely right. As tempting as it may be to "mount your own".

Dont.
post #6 of 15
whatever
post #7 of 15
I'm with U.P Racer It ain't rocket science.


But....

If you are not comfortable doing it. Or even think of a good reason not to,

Don't!

Heck you could drill a hole right through the base or anything!

CalG
post #8 of 15
considering how many people I encounter that don't know how to put their chains on their car and yet drive to the mountains, If you don't regularly work on skis, tune them, work with powertools, etc, I would not recommend you DIY. It's not rocket science, but there is some technical aspects that could be have consequences resulting in poor performance of your gear, Injury or even death.

25.00 is not unreasonable for peace of mind.

Just be sure you know the shop.

BTW If you purchase skis and bindings together, most shops include installation for free.

BTW2: over tightning of "easy to install" Pilot bindings can cause the bases to get warped and the edges to be compressed. Void warr and cause premature failure. If you don't have the proper tools (torque driver measured in nm) it's very hard to get it right.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thank you for your replies.

The going rate around Northern VA/Wash DC is $75 to mount non-store-bought ski/bindings.

One of the shops wanted to charge me $45 to 'mount' a pair of Look P10 bindings on a Dynastar SkiCross 9 that has the pre-drilled (autodrive) plate. So I mounted it myself and had them do the binding check.

The rate to do a binding check is $25 which I don't mind at all spending.

I am very comfortable with power tools as I do my own home renovations (high quality, not half-ass stuff) and car repairs (whenever possible). I also used to be a bike mechanic during my younger years. I'll like to think that I am somewhat handy and not afraid to try something new, providing that I can do it precisely and accurately.
post #10 of 15
Wow... was that the Ski Center?
post #11 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by U.P. Racer
Gimme a freakin' break.... :

You are probably the same type that leaves oil changes and brake jobs to the "experts" too. I have mounted all of my own bindings for the past 15 years...because I have my own jigs. I wouldn't even concider free mounting a binding.

It ain't rocket science.
Not at all. We do 90% of the service on our cars...why because we have the right tools. Mounting bindings without a jig is just plain...well...dumb.

The $75.00 is outragous though. It shouldn't be more that $40-45 max.
post #12 of 15
All right. I should have added some disclaimers....... if you don't regularly work with tools or you have reservations about whether or not you can get it right, don't try it. Also, I'd recommend having a binding specific drill bit (generally 4.1x9.5)
I usually use a jig, but I've free mounted many pairs and can get them just as straight. It just takes a hell of a lot longer. The toepieces are a piece of cake. The heels take a bit longer.

..... oh, I just thought of one more disclaimer. I have never free mounted fat skis. They would be much more difficult to eyeball side to side. Most race skis are only slightly wider than the bindings, so its easy to line them up straight.

If you truly want to try it, and you feel confident that you can do it, go for it. Just make damn sure that those marks you make on your skis are exactly where you would like holes in your skis...... its that simple.

I'm sure it's not 100% about the money.... there's a certain bond that forms when you mount your own.
post #13 of 15
U.P. Racer. Not sure about that eyeball thing. There are many tools that you can use to assure that the holes are where they should be. I have mounted all my bindings since I was 13 years old (53 now). My dad taught me how to work with tools and we invented jigs before our local shops got them. I am with Phil that you ought to use a jig as it makes it relatively fool proof as far as the drilling is concerned (if you have the right bit). I have also mounted many brands of bindings with a Marker jig, it can take some time to figure out the shimming on the side wall to get the spacing right, but that is part of the fun. Not rocket science if you know what you are doing. As a ski coach for many years, I can point to a fair number of binding mounts that were screwed up, so even if you have it professionally done, pay attention. A few years ago my son's rep had something happen to his jig so that all holes were drilled 8mm off center. Took a while to install helicoils to get it fixed. I do agree with the comment about having the bindings tested although I have to admit that I have not always heeded this advice.
post #14 of 15
I have free mounted my Tankers and my Scot Schmidts as well as race skis, all with Salomon bindings, no probs, though you want to be careful....ESPECIALLY if you don't know your bindings like the back of your hands
post #15 of 15
I say free mount your skis if you want.... I can just charge you that much more to plug and fix your f$&@-up.

james
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