Originally Posted by Si
Now, a simple post here at Epic saying they were going to run their own website and establish some independent instructional programs would have gone a long way to eliminating this whole mess. But the implicit announcement of those intentions here on Epic with an inaccurate and misleading post (that was referred to somewhat as a prank over at onsnow.com) left an appearance of a backdoor approach and showed a lot of bad faith. Additionally, as has been previously referred to, their inflated interpretation of their own roles in the establishment of the EpicSki programs which ignores the fact that they were members of a much larger team, many of whom made significant contributions, additionally contributes to this feeling of bad faith.
I don't at all criticize them for WHAT they've done. It's HOW they've done it that has disappointed me. These are (hopefully not "were") well repsected members of EpicSki who have made significant contributions here. Frankly, I expected better of them in terms of their approach to establishing an independent forum with associated ski instruction programs.
So let me get this straight. You think it would have been "better" for one of the founders, of what we all know full well will be a competing website, to log in here and say....."come on over to our site?"
Although AC has made it perfectly clear that paths were taken that might, in retrospect, have been avoided, do you really think anyone in their right mind would think the environment was ripe for such an approach?
When I say competing I mean it in the most generic sense. Onsnow will compete for my online attention as do about five others. I certainly hope many more ski forums will come online in the near future.
I can't find any reference at onsnow to any post being a prank. I'm sure it's my mistake, however, I'd love to see the reference. Can you provide a link?
What post are you referring to as "inaccurate and misleading"?
I think your choice of descriptors such as "back door", "bad faith", and "inflated interpretation" merely add fuel to a fire that many have hoped was dieing.
I'm sure the founders of on snow are going to writh in a fitfull slumber this eve knowing they disappointed you.: :
I have spent the past two days skiing with Bob, Ric, and Tom. The only person I have spoken to at length about this matter is Bob. I can assure all that AC, Epicski, and this entire community remains very dear to Bob. His absence has ONLY been due to time constraints. These guys are all consumate professionals who simply love to teach skiing and sought to venture off on their own. All those guys have one simple motivation and that is to put smiles on customers faces.
I also had the pleasure for two days of spending a great deal of time with PMTS Wacko, aka, SCSA. He and I have remained friends/intertwined for the past six years while a great deal of water has passed under the proverbial bridge. He has done a great deal behind the scenes to create a spirit/sense of reconciliation between two acrimonious factions. Will he succeed? I doubt it. He has become fond of repeating, its.........just skiing.
Let's all enjoy the variety of skiing sites available, look forward to ski pros plying their trade at many different camps, and set our sites on the many ski seasons to come.