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post #31 of 36
See, that is the problem with the Morgan Valley/Ogden Valley area, other than the resorts and a few thing strands of public land the trails are all about a 25 minute drive away. Roads are great for cycling but any serious mtn biking is a distance, all the land is privately held and no one will let you on.
post #32 of 36
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Originally Posted by Utah49
I think that Powder corp has hired some people that really don't relate to the locals. Deer Valley dispite it's glammer factor seems to have a better relationship with the city then what PCMR now has with the City. There was a time when the Town and resort were very close. The Badamis seemed to take a lot of pride in the mountain and were more concerned with skiing then profit. Yes putting on Americas opening cost a lot of money but there wasa big boost for the town asa whole it marked a return to the season and it was always a good weekend for bussiness on Main St. The now Gen Manger of Powder Corp. Was not well liked by the locals in is old post in Coloraro. From what I have heard he has also not well liked here as well. Yes the tourist seemed loved the grooming, but it took what challage the mountain had and made it a near joke. Grooming Blue Slip! what were they thinking? I can see grooming lets say 1/2 of Widow Maker and maybe the bottem part of Naildriver but mark it as a Blue run! Once groomed those runs are not even close to being black diamonds. Maybe groom Cresent but leave Sliverskis or vise versa. Groom1/2 of double Jack so the guest can get down it. I mean i can see that. but leave some bumps give the average joe a chance to improve to challage him or her self. Look at it this way Deer Valley is working on opening up more glades and more challenging runs! Even Aspen resorts are working to down playing the glammer and glitz.
Much of this is what I get from people in town merchents on Main St. I know a great many long time season pass holders at PCMR who will be getting thier passes someplace else. When I was running a shop on Main st People would ask what is your favorite mountain? I would have to say now The Canyons Yes tourist listen to the locals. This might be a case of The resort needing to mend some fences and do a little PR with the rest of the Town. If it is just about the bottom line, The resort has made some big mistakes in the way they hold down cost to improve the bottomline, Penny pinching and pound foolish is the expression. Those cost savings shows in the quality of the PCMR experiance. I don't need a MBA from harverd to know that PCMR makes more money then Deer Valley. Since DV limits ticket sales the Number of skier of skier days on the big week ends far exceeds that That of Deer Valley. Yet The quality of the whole Deer Valley experiance is so much better. The whole vibe there is friendlier. From the lifties on up. Well thats just my rant. I'm just going to let my wallet do the talking next season. I'm sure that my $750.00 won't be missed that much. Ok stepping off my saop box.
My, my - a bit bitter are we?!
Personally I think the Signature Runs idea is a unique concept that truely doesn't suck. Riding Crescent to Waterfall after it was freshly groomed was one of the surprise highlights of my season.
As to the rest of your rant, it's your pocketbook and your words so I definitely agree that you should let your feet do your voting for you.
post #33 of 36
sphrrt:

I totally agree. PCMR definately didn't suck this year. A new groomer path down the mountain is exactly what PCMR needs. Stretching out long runs has always been an issue at PCMR and adding another choice down is a step in the right direction. Grooming has been MUCH better the last three years (few death cookies, no seams, no grouser marks). At 50 runs groomed, that's still 50% left for the bumps.
post #34 of 36
It's still a proven fact Deer Valley will nver be caught in the best groomed run catagory. Dave Smith and his merrry crew of groomers at DV will make sure of that.
Why is PCMR trying to catch them??
Hey Utah are you really sure that PCMR makes more money than DV. Remeber resort make more money off the real estate they sell,, the lessons, the food(pcmr food service sucks). Guess we will never know, cause DV is privatly owned, thus don't have to report it's earnings to the stockholders.
DV does alright. When they want to put in a new lift and new runs, they take a couple of years to mull it over, before they ask the holder of the wallet to open it up, and hand out a couple millon of dollors.
Maybr some of the resorts chains need to take a few leson from DV. Then we wouldn't be reading on how bad ASC,and others are doing.
post #35 of 36
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Originally Posted by tahoetr
It's still a proven fact Deer Valley will nver be caught in the best groomed run catagory. Dave Smith and his merrry crew of groomers at DV will make sure of that.
Why is PCMR trying to catch them??
I don't think PCMR is trying to catch Deer Valley as much as they're trying to do something that Deer Valley, and reallly no other resort I'm aware of does, which is to open up more of the steeper terrain on the mountain (on a regular basis) to a wider array of skiers and riders. PCMR has some awesome terrain off the Ski Team ridge that has never gotten much traffic, too steep/scary etc. and with regularly scheduled grooming on most but not all of those runs it really got a lot more people to head over to there.
post #36 of 36
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Originally Posted by sphrrt
I don't think PCMR is trying to catch Deer Valley as much as they're trying to do something that Deer Valley, and reallly no other resort I'm aware of does, which is to open up more of the steeper terrain on the mountain (on a regular basis) to a wider array of skiers and riders. PCMR has some awesome terrain off the Ski Team ridge that has never gotten much traffic, too steep/scary etc. and with regularly scheduled grooming on most but not all of those runs it really got a lot more people to head over to there.
Snowbasin regularly grooms the Grizzly and Wildflower downhill runs. They are flippin/frackin steep and are two of the most popular runs on the mountain.
People loved steep groomers, especially tourists.
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