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Spring Skiing Pond Skims

post #1 of 22
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I have never actually seen this live. However I have seen this done on video and such. From the footage I have seen it would seem the failure rate is high. But using todays fatter skis I would think making it across the pond would be easier to accomplish. I am skiing Jay on Saturday and they are having one of these events. I am tempted to give it a try since my PR's are about as fat as water skis....

Has anyone ever tried this? How tough is it? The cold water seems like it would be a rough scene if you did not make it. I would also be concerned about getting hurt since to make it would take a decent amount of speed.....

post #2 of 22
I saw a contest at Big Sky last year. The failure rate was high for both skiers & boarders....I didn't see any teleskiers make it across. Fat skis did well but didn't guarentee success. The people that made it did a good job keeping their weight fairly balanced but a little back. Those with their weight too far forward sank their tips and ate it. Those with their wieght too far back sank their tails causing them to lose speed & sink. There were a lot of dramatic crashes but nobody got hurt.
post #3 of 22
Pond skimming is like gambling: in both cases, people say "I know how to beat the system".
post #4 of 22
I did one last Sat. I made it over 2/2 times and stayed fairly dry. Less that half make it over at the 7 SPrings pond skim. The water was 38 degrees. Good Times.
post #5 of 22
...and here I thought this thread was going to be about the Bahama short-wearing long-pencil-ski-skiing spring skiers who tromp on your new Atomics in the lift line.

Skims, not Scums....

Oh... nevermind...
post #6 of 22
I have found that the biggest determining factor to how many people make it across is if there is a jump into the water, or a ski-in/small drop (like 6 inches) into the water. If there is a jump (usually rather small), there are far more people getting wet.
post #7 of 22
Fat skis or a board are the way to go. PR's work great.
post #8 of 22
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post #9 of 22
I've never seen anyone get hurt. My brothers did it several times when we were young, sometimes they made it, sometimes they didn't (and that was before fat skis). My stepson did it a few years back at the ripe age of 13. He didn't make it, but thought it was a blast. He said the water was really cold, but it was sunny, so that helped.

At Jay, they have patrollers help pull everyone out of the water. I've seen contentants pull the patrollers in! Also, I've seen guys wearing wet suits and snorkels swim around after falling. If you're not competing and you don't want to get wet, don't stand too close to the front, because snowboarders can really spray the crowd good!

If it's a nice day, I think you should do it, Alfonse. That way, I get to watch!

post #10 of 22
Originally Posted by Alfonse
Has anyone ever tried this? How tough is it? The cold water seems like it would be a rough scene if you did not make it. I would also be concerned about getting hurt since to make it would take a decent amount of speed.....

Can you say "shrinkage"?

Be ready when you hit the water---you won't carry speed too far. It is one of the few times you will need to be back on your heels on ski's. If you are not, you'll go face first. But like someone else observed, you cannot stay back or you'll sink. You'll need to make some quick adjustments once on the water.

We have one every year and I can't recall any injuries of any significance--in years. Lots of cold wet folks and the occasional bruise or cut from whacking yourself on the water or equipment---thats about it.
post #11 of 22
I've done it a couple of times. Once on skis and once on a board. I made it across on the skis, and thought a board would be easier, so I tried to carve a turn in the pond to spray the crowd. The tip submerged, and I went down like a wide receiver getting cut down by a strong safety.

My first recommendation is to use an old pair of boots and socks (and clothes). That way, when they get wet (your boots will get wet, even if you make it across), you won't have to ski the rest of the day in wet boots (and clothes).

There are usually patroller and other helpers, including people in scuba gear, to help you out if necessary. Depending on the size and depth of the pond, it may or may not be necessary to help most people. Ours are usually small enough that people can make it out pretty quickly. And with water that cold, people are almost walking on water cartoon-style to get out.

It's fun. I say try it. It's better to regret things you have tried and didn't like than to regret not trying and wondering "if only..."
post #12 of 22
They used to do this at Mt. Baker on the 4th of July every year. It was an event called the "Slush Cup" which had no sponsor, prizes, or any other official status. It just was and went on for many years. I made it there only once, in 1975, before the Forest Service shut it down by closing the highway every year. My impression was that the main reason that people did not make it across the pond was that they were barely able to stand up because of the adult refreshments that were epidemic at this event. The year I was there making it across the pond didn't help you stay dry and warm. Anyone who made it was pelted by so many snowballs that they were miserable anyway (if they could feel it). A large jump was erected and it seemed that the main idea was to see who could enter the water in the most dramatic or unusual way. Many people did half-flips and did a head first entry. Another group was busy rolling down the hill in a gigantic inner tube. Quite the drunken brawl.

For those that know Baker but are unaware of the Slush Cup, the pond is at the bottom of Austin.
post #13 of 22
I did it last year at Sugarbush on old skinny skis.

First person to go made it with ease. So they lowered the starting line 50 feet. Second person made it with ease so they lowered the line again. This continued until the sixth person did not make it (by then the starting point was close enough to the water to prevent much speed). I went ninth (if I recall) and made it about as far as everyone else who started from the lowered starting point.

Personally I think technique is more important than the width of the skis. I also think a ski with alot of shape hurts you. The PR should work fine. You need to get as much speed as possible before hitting the water. Try and stay centered while over the water (I thought I was centered but photos show I was leaning back).

I may be at Jay on Saturday but am unsure if I'll try the skimming.
post #14 of 22
The one time I did it I was surprised at how easy it was. Some of my friends had Cera F powder that we corked onto our bases.

I tucked the whole approach, cruised across the water with ease, and had enough speed to jump and do a grab off the lip at the end of the water.

In my opinion, if you carry enough speed (and are comfortable with speed) you hydroplane and it feels almost like snow.

If you don't wax your skis regularly or have never used fluorinated waxes it is a worthwhile experience. Going from your average base to an ultra high fluoro product like Cera F will feel like your skis are literally 3x as fast.
post #15 of 22

mountain creek, nj

first prize was a week skiing in utah

snowboarders had a hard time getting speed

skiiers just approached in a tuck and were fine

water was cold
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post #17 of 22
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post #18 of 22
Were those water skis mounted with ski bindings?
post #19 of 22
I watched the 7th annual pond skimming at The Canyons last week. Guys that made it, launched on the lip going in and carried speed. Lot's of guys just pulled tricks into the water for the applause. Had to be kinda cold when you're just wearing a loin cloth or g-string...
post #20 of 22
Originally Posted by JohnH
It's better to regret things you have tried and didn't like than to
regret not trying and wondering "if only..."
Is this your own?? That is a GREAT life lesson.
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post #21 of 22
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post #22 of 22
Me and my friend have been toying with the idea of having me strap on my PE's, and get behind his boat this summer, but there are problems like do PE's float, and then of course we wont have any ski boots to wear..... thad be pretty cool, water ski with snow skis....hmmmm but then there is the "if you fall you get hurt" factor
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