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post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
My dad is looking for some new skis for next season. The problem is, he is 6foot7 and 270 pounds and a very good skiier. He has few options because of his size. He needs a stiff ski but at the same time is in a long length (185) but is more versitile than a race ski. We ski in the east so somthing with some edge grip to it. He tried the SX11s and said it wasnt enough. Im thinking somthing by Head or Nordica because they have the beefy Austrian constuction?
post #2 of 24
Tell him to try the SX:B5 in the 182.
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by jstraw
Tell him to try the SX:B5 in the 182.
This is a good call. On demo days I had several large lads who I tried to find skis for. Each time the SXb5 bedcame the go to skis for the big boys. The metron 10 in a 178 was one I thought would work out but they didn't choose it once they got that big. The metron eX in a 185 could be another option. BTW I think it's fair to say all the Atomics mentioned have beefy Austrian construction since that is where they are made and designed and all.
post #4 of 24

Volkl

I was in the same spot a couple years ago - 6'4" pushing 265, I ended up with Volkl P40 EnergYrails. I demoed 188, but couldn't find any that size cheap enough so ended up on 183, and still love them. Even though they were sold as 'racing' skis, they are plenty versatile for me - fast, slow, big turns, short turns. I've never found any powder to try them in, but groomers, ice and crud are no problem at all.

I don't know what Volkl has to replace those now but you might see if you can find a pair of whatever the new version is to demo.

And for a minor hijack, I've since lost considerable weight and am now wondering if anyone can suggest something similar to the Volkls but a little softer and easier to keep an edge in on short turns?
post #5 of 24
Try the Vokl 724 Pro. A stiff ski with consistent flex.
post #6 of 24
Dynastar Legend Pro in 186 or 195cm

I have the 186cm and love it.


Maybe Volkl Explosiv 190cm if he's good enough and if you can find a pair.
post #7 of 24
Atomic Metron:b5 in a 172. That's a lotta ski... But, a kick, and the 172 will seem short to him while giving him all the performance he's likely to need.
post #8 of 24
If this guy is 6'7", then his poles are about 172cm. I'm 6'5" and 215 lbs, and a 172 is like a pair of snowblades to me. I have never tried the Metron b5, but at 275 lbs., I would think that he needs all the ski he can get if he really is "a very good skier." Trust me, at his height a 182 will seem short.
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by L7
This is a good call. On demo days I had several large lads who I tried to find skis for. Each time the SXb5 bedcame the go to skis for the big boys. The metron 10 in a 178 was one I thought would work out but they didn't choose it once they got that big. The metron eX in a 185 could be another option. BTW I think it's fair to say all the Atomics mentioned have beefy Austrian construction since that is where they are made and designed and all.
If you're an eastern skier, the M:EX might not be the right ski. I've got the 185, and it's an awesome board - but I mostly ski in Summit County, CO. I'm 6'2", 210 and it's certainly not too much ski. Very heavy (with Atomic bindings) and torsionally stiff. It's a helluva ski. The B5 might be a better alternative for the east coast. But if nothing else, Atomics are all designed to go fast.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by mudfoot
If this guy is 6'7", then his poles are about 172cm. I'm 6'5" and 215 lbs, and a 172 is like a pair of snowblades to me. I have never tried the Metron b5, but at 275 lbs., I would think that he needs all the ski he can get if he really is "a very good skier." Trust me, at his height a 182 will seem short.
I understand what you're saying, but believe that the 172 b5 would be solid for him. The 172 is the longest they come, btw, and is, honestly, a lot of ski. Worth a demo, for sure.
post #11 of 24
SSH,

I have a built in prejudice from having grown up in the "short skis suck" era, but I have heard nothing but raves about the B5. Perhaps I need to keep an open mind and give them a try, but my experience with sub 182 cm skis has not be very good so far.
post #12 of 24
mudfoot, I understand. I skied on 205s (slaloms) from 1980-ish through the early 90s. I now ski on a 162 (M:b5) and 165 (Fischer RX8). I still can't believe it. But even at my highest speeds (which aren't the very highest anyone might ski, but are faster than most folks in-bounds), I do not have any issues with the skis--especially the b5.

Worth a try!
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by Carp
I was in the same spot a couple years ago - 6'4" pushing 265, I ended up with Volkl P40 EnergYrails. I demoed 188, but couldn't find any that size cheap enough so ended up on 183, and still love them. Even though they were sold as 'racing' skis, they are plenty versatile for me - fast, slow, big turns, short turns. I've never found any powder to try them in, but groomers, ice and crud are no problem at all.

I don't know what Volkl has to replace those now but you might see if you can find a pair of whatever the new version is to demo.

And for a minor hijack, I've since lost considerable weight and am now wondering if anyone can suggest something similar to the Volkls but a little softer and easier to keep an edge in on short turns?
I still ski the p40 platinum (2001 model w/ cssi module)in a 178(6' 190 lbs) and still love em. Next year I will be on the volkl allstar in a 168......probably a 175 for you? That's my choice. Suggest you demo? Really suggest you start your own thread, these fellas will jump on huge....l
post #14 of 24
The Fischer RC4 Worldcup RC is a GS construction with non-legal for racing sidecut. It comes up to 185cm and would suit him well for all but very deep powder.

You can also score a pair of th 03-04 version on Ebay for $259.00!
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by atomicmb912
My dad is looking for some new skis for next season. The problem is, he is 6foot7 and 270 pounds and a very good skiier. He has few options because of his size. He needs a stiff ski but at the same time is in a long length (185) but is more versitile than a race ski. We ski in the east so somthing with some edge grip to it. He tried the SX11s and said it wasnt enough. Im thinking somthing by Head or Nordica because they have the beefy Austrian constuction?
Find a pair of Atomic M10's in a 178cm . These things are beefy up front with a good snappy feel , if he feels like these are not enough he's not getting them on edge.
post #16 of 24
You can't go wrong with a Volkl ski!!! I just don't think that the Volkl 724 Pro would be a good choice for a one ski quiver on the East coast.... too wide. If your dad skis mostly groomed runs, is good skier, and enjoys speed I would say the 6 Star in a 182cm. Just make sure it is the '04-'05 6 Star with Marker Motion AT with P.C.O.S. bindings. Also, I heard Nordica made some really good skis this year so I would take a look at the Speed Machine 14.
post #17 of 24
Rumour has it that Volkl Superspeed can hold an edge.

Why was the SX-11 "not enough"? At 270, he'll be able to over-pressure almost any ski. (I know, I'm 6'3" and 250)

FYI: I ski the East (hardpack with very little cover). Last year, I skied mostly on Salomon 10 3V and learned how to avoid over-pressuring the skiis. In my case, what I thought was an equipment problem was very much technique related. I also had numerous changes done to my boots so that I could perform properly -- I'm certain I would not have made as much improvement by getting new skiis.

It may be so simple that his boots/stance needs to be aligned. At that size, it's quite possible to be bowlegged. There is no ski in the world that will get you to ski better if your alignment is out. Boots, footbeds, alignment, stance then onto other issues...

I'd actually check pole length before changing skis. They have a much bigger effect on stance/balance than people realize -- especially if they are too long: say hello to the back seat.

I recommend that you buy him a lesson with a level III instructor that can evaluate his equipment needs ON SNOW before you buy skis. IMO, skis are the last things on the list to change!

Hope that helps.
post #18 of 24
An atomic R11 might do the trick. Its a good stiff ski that came pretty long. I know of a pair of 180 demos in excellent condition, if you're interested.
post #19 of 24
My assumption is that he tried the SX11 @180 (The longest they make) If he is looking for more than that You should be looking @ any manufacturs True GS Ski in a 205 length? That would be a short GS ski for his weight my guess is that he would fling them around pretty good. My option alot of the people who post here are SL biased, Its a stye not for all of us. I used to be a bit heavy 225 and was happy (with my style of skiing) on a 190 dynastar GS ski (A bit short for my weight) Not as much side cut but modern, not an early 90's strait ski.

MTT
post #20 of 24
The Fischer WC RC might be good. However I would advise on a womens GS race ski. It will give you all the performance you ask for, feel 10cm longer than a consumer ski and is a bit softer than a mens model.

If he really is at least a skier performing in the top 5-10% (of non racers) and want's to carve why go to a consumer ski?
Just take a soft one. What does he want the ski for? if he drifts occasionaly a race ski might not be the best choice, for carving it is great however. GS ski are not longer than 193. 205 is a SG ski and would be an overkill. A 193 GS is already for the heaviest.

If he likes a shorter radius go for a sandwich Racecarver or even better a 165 cm slalom race ski, put on a stiff plate and I can assure you the ski is enough. Technique is asked for however. Worldcuppers not weigthing less more did ski 150's. So 165 is enough for the radius.
post #21 of 24
How 'bout the Dynastar Legend 8000's or Intuitive 74's ... would these work for someone this size?
post #22 of 24
no, they are way too soft!
post #23 of 24
ATown ... thanks for the input. I'm similar in size to the guy's dad here, 6'-1", and 250, and have barely crossed into the advanced category. Last year I bought a pair of Dynastar Skicross 9's ... way too soft for someone of my "girth". Does this issue simply boil down to something as simple as wood core / foam core design? Should ones with similar size stick to wood core skis?
post #24 of 24
Dorm, I am 6'0 275lbs so I am heavier than you are. For my carving/all mountain ski I use a Volkl 6 Star. I just recently picked up a pair of '03-'04 Salomon Xtra Hots on ebay for $400. I have not skied yet so I can't comment on their stiffness or edge grip. I figured for soft snow and powder they should do the trick. I really wanted a pair of Volkl 724 pros as my powder skis but they were a little costly for a ski that I am not going to use everyday.
My recomendation would be either a Volkl, Atomic, and maybe even a Head ski.
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