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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by jack hallam
I've had the same problem as many on this post (wide forefoot, narrow heel/ankle, big calf) I asked about this a while ago on this site and the general consensus was that the Atomic B10 would be the best. Have Salomon x-waves at present. Loads of money spent on them (and 4 years of moaning) but still no good. I'll probably go with the Atomics this season, has anybody got any views on other boots.
I had Salomon X-Wave 9s, which caused endless misery and trips back to Surefoot and moaning and ultimately damage (still not sure if it was the X-Waves or the amfit insoles or the sidas foam liners). Same feet/legs as you describe above. I'm in Atomic B9s now, bought them after reading the Ski magazine boot guide... walked into a shop, found them on the wall, put them on, and then got my money out. They fit right off the wall.
post #32 of 46

Atomic's new boots are warmer

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Originally Posted by RiDeC58
I can remember Atomic boots taking some heat (sorry) for being cold on the hill. Was this ever really true? If so, is it still an issue? I wonder if this is why they come prewired for the Thermic heaters. Maybe they create a demand then fill it? Anyone with experience in Atomic boots care to comment? I am interested in the B series also, but hesitate to consider a boot know to be cold. I have enough problems with cold feet already.
Just a note to add. Atomic has made major changes for the 05/06 line. The metal brackets that held the old interfaces old the boot were to blame for the "cold" experience many had. That is gone on the Mtech boots for next season and the new liner quality is top notch. Try some of the new ones on if you have skied the old Tritech in the past.
post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by skifreeordie
Just a note to add. Atomic has made major changes for the 05/06 line. The metal brackets that held the old interfaces old the boot were to blame for the "cold" experience many had. That is gone on the Mtech boots for next season and the new liner quality is top notch. Try some of the new ones on if you have skied the old Tritech in the past.
Does this apply to the B series also or just the Mtech?
post #34 of 46
The buckles on the B series appear to have changed. I have not looked closely, however, my B7s from last year have polished metal buckles (aulminium/alloy?), whereas this year this year they are coloured (anodised alu or otherwise). Last year's liner was a Thermic.
post #35 of 46
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Originally Posted by Taxman
The buckles on the B series appear to have changed. I have not looked closely, however, my B7s from last year have polished metal buckles (aulminium/alloy?), whereas this year this year they are coloured (anodised alu or otherwise). Last year's liner was a Thermic.
They call them "Micro ALU buckles" (B 7), "wing alu buckles" ( B 11, 10, 9, M 9) and "wing light anodized buckles" (M 11, 10).
B 5, 4 and 3 have simpler buckles.
The B 9 liner is "Custom Sport Liner".
post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by RiDeC58
Does this apply to the B series also or just the Mtech?
The B series is better than ever but it never had the "cold" issue because the interfaces mount on differently.
post #37 of 46

Atomics...cool boots..

I think the lack of insulating plastic underfoot had something to do with them being cooler than most...y/n?
post #38 of 46
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Originally Posted by HaveSkisWillClimb
I think the lack of insulating plastic underfoot had something to do with them being cooler than most...y/n?
The case they're making above isn't that, quite, rather more like a boot with a crampon on it being colder than one without.
post #39 of 46
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Originally Posted by comprex
The case they're making above isn't that, quite, rather more like a boot with a crampon on it being colder than one without.
the screws that held the heel & toe lugs on were exposed on the bottom of the boot and screwed directly into a metal plate that sat inside of the boot under the "PLASTIC" bootboard. In addition the space between the lugs (midboot) was large. this design purportedly allowed the entire sole to flex. In later models of the Tritech series the heel screws were covered by a plastic plate.

this metal conductivity and open center definetly contributed to a colder boot.
post #40 of 46
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Originally Posted by comprex
The case they're making above isn't that, quite, rather more like a boot with a crampon on it being colder than one without.
...ok, understood..
post #41 of 46
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Originally Posted by comprex
The case they're making above isn't that, quite, rather more like a boot with a crampon on it being colder than one without.

Here's a great summertime topic....lets debate if plastic bindings are warmer than metal ones.
post #42 of 46
The only way to truly determine if a fit is possible is by doing a shell fit with a great boot fitter. All my punches have held in my 2003/04 RT WC (B,B), and they were punched plenty. EE forefoot. Mind you I have access to free bootwork and the 8 hour of work to get a the perfect fit might not be cost effective for most everyone. They even have bar fit (I can have a few beer after skiing without needing to remove my boots). Now I'm starting the process on my new 2005/06 RT WC (C,B).

For instep work, the boot board can be shaved off the top surface to lower the foot a tad. Also a good fitter can punch the instep higher.
post #43 of 46
I have never been able to find a boot that was wide enough to allow my little toes room; they were always pushed under my foot. I have had a new pair of BiTechs each season since the first year they were introduced and they are GREAT. I can finally stand on my WHOLE foot.
post #44 of 46
Just curious why you need a new pair each season??
post #45 of 46
Because I'm a brat!!
post #46 of 46
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Originally Posted by newfydog
Here's a great summertime topic....lets debate if plastic bindings are warmer than metal ones.
I heard Atomic was putting remote climate controlled heaters in their EBM binding next year! It allows the binding to heat your skis while you are skiing and redistribute the wax evenly across your base.

This should be a big step forward for all who scoffed at the EBM saying it was just gadgetry because it only checked and verified if you were in it correctly!
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