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Some Good News!

post #1 of 55
Thread Starter 
No more crutches!
No more oxygen!
I can take a shower! {those sponge baths were getting old!}
I can take off those ugly support hose!

Range of motion still needs some work, but it's getting there.
These lyrics keep going through my head:

Well the first days are the hardest days
Don't you worry anymore
'Cause when life looks like easy street
There is danger at your door
post #2 of 55
Sounds like you've come through some pretty drastic stuff--hope you continue to heal--my best to you!!
post #3 of 55
Good luck LM!!
post #4 of 55
Originally Posted by Lisamarie
Well the first days are the hardest days
Don't you worry anymore
'Cause when life looks like easy street
There is danger at your door
Ah, theme music for ISWDP. Or are you saving that for a dramatic moment?

post #5 of 55
SUPER -KEEP ON KEEPIN ON !! kikbutski LM !!!

post #6 of 55
post #7 of 55
LM, once I am deep into a recovery phase, I sometimes dc the support hose but I think they are one of the most important elements in keeping swelling under control. Check with you Doc but I would suggest that you continue with the hose for as long as you can.

After I crushed my calf I wore support hose for almost a year and I found that it controlled the swelling during exercise sufficiently so I could do multiple days when I should have been taking a day off (in essence that meant I was back to normal within 10 weeks and not the year the Doc initially told me).

Yeah, hose are for hosers but they work. R I C E - the Orthopaedist Gospel. And as you know compression on the legs means hose.

Thought: I have never had the injury you are recovering from, ergo the comment to discuss with you Doc.

Good luck,

post #8 of 55

That's good news, I'm assuming your PT right now is passive movement, rest , elevation, and ice?

post #9 of 55
Thread Starter 
Chuck, I'd like to know how your PT is going!

I start each session on the bike. I should be at full range continuous movement at this point {almost 3 weeks post op}, but sadly, I am not. Neither foward or backward pedaling will allow a full ROM. I "lost it" today in PT. I was trying so hard to get full range, but it felt as if the knee was being broken at the joint.

Totally freaked out in front of everyone. Probably one of the most humiliating experiences in my life. We are still debating whether Mark's day teaching ankle biters at Breck was more challenging than my PT's day working with me.

After the bike, I lie prone with my legs hanging off the table, in order to allow gravity to straighten my leg. Then the therapist manually flexes my leg.

I gotta' tell you, those of you who are not injured: never take your simple every day movements for granted!!! I am used to being both strong and flexible, with a high pain threshold. The manual flexion performed by the therapist is more painful than the injury. My ROM in flexion is pretty darn pathetic. She gives me a rope to tie on my foot so that I can perform the flexion exercise myself. Believing that I am never going get my range of motion back, I would rather use the rope to hang myself.

I sit up and practice pressing the back of my knee into the table. This is done with an obnoxious biofeedback device. Since the title of this thread is "Some Good News," I am happy to sat that today, I finally got the back of the knee to touch the table. Needless to say, a few hours later, I had to work it down again, but at least I'm making small progress in terms of extension.

Other exercises include leg raises in different directions, heel slides and calf raises.

I believe that my slow progress has to do with the fact that because of the oxygen situation, I had to wait a week before going to PT. It probably did not help matters that no one told me not to put the damn pillow under my knee.

For someone who has been a gym rat for most of her life, being so pathetic in a physical setting is a trying experience. I seem to be the only late season injury at the time of my therapy, so all the other patients are doing these cool fun things, while I'm still working on obtaining a normal range of motion.

But then again, I was skiing while they were in PT, so I guess I got the better deal.

Sorry to be such a downer. This was a really frustrating day.
post #10 of 55

I'm so glad that you're feeling better! Maybe we can ski together again next year.

Good luck!
post #11 of 55
Keep up the good work! We're pulling for you.
post #12 of 55
Congrats on getting on the road to recovery. That was quick. Gee, where does the time go?
post #13 of 55
Thread Starter 
Recovery has been both fast and slow. Considering the meniscal damage, I am off crutches sooner than I thought. However, the ROM situation is bad news. No matter how much I accomplish in one day, I wake up each morning back to square one. Right now, I feel as if I'll never have a normal leg again.

I'm sitting here watching a major snow storm in Summit County, wondering if I'll ever be able to ski again. But I have Man of La Mancha on the TV, and I sing to myself :
"To Dream The Impossible Dream."
post #14 of 55
LM, the range of motion will come back. I bet two weeks from now this ROM issue will be over. I remember doing the rehab on my shoulder last summer. I could hardly move my arm above my head. After a few weeks of therapy the progress moved much faster, and it quit hurting so much when I stretched. Patience girl!!! LewBob
post #15 of 55
Glad you are recovering so fast. I remember the frustration of not being all better but it is probably getting better faster than it seems. Sometimes we tend to focus on what we can't do and miss the progress. Now I am skiing with the other meniscus torn, waiting for the season to finish before I get it fixed up. I really take it easy, go out early when the runs are in good shape. Have to leave the bumps alone or I'm through for the day. I tell myself my cup is half full but it feels half empty when I quit early. take care. madeleine
post #16 of 55
Originally Posted by Lisamarie
Recovery has been both fast and slow. Considering the meniscal damage, I am off crutches sooner than I thought. However, the ROM situation is bad news. No matter how much I accomplish in one day, I wake up each morning back to square one. Right now, I feel as if I'll never have a normal leg again.

I'm sitting here watching a major snow storm in Summit County, wondering if I'll ever be able to ski again. But I have Man of La Mancha on the TV, and I sing to myself :
"To Dream The Impossible Dream."
LM - Just an excerpt from my knee rehab journal on Nov 17:

"I'm getting frustrated with my swelling which seems to stay exactly the same no matter what I do. I iced and elevated and did nothing other than ROM exercises/stretching every 2 hours all weekend and when I'm not at work this week - absolutely nothing else. Not even my normal upper body routine at the gym (okay I did a few sets of pullups Saturday, but that's not a workout by any means). Exactly the same on Monday afternoon as it was on Friday afternoon and we can't get past 125 degrees because the swelling above my patella is in the way. I did get to zero extension on my own though (still sucks getting there though). At therapy they'll to all this edema massage to get the swelling down - I stand up and 2 minutes later it's right back where it was. Ugh."

Then on Nov 29th, I was still either getting full extension, or 130 flexion, but not both in the same day. On extension days I could only get to 120. For about 2 weeks there it was no progress or negative progress. There aren't even words for how frustrated I was.

Sound familiar? I've freaked out in PT before myself - you feel like you're not making any progress and it just about makes you lose your mind, especially when you're working SO hard.

But guess what? After all of that, at 5 months I was doing so well my doc gave me permission to ski, and I'm now at 6 months post-op, skiing almost every day (still taking it easy and avoiding nasty crud and crust, but I'm having a blast skiing powder and soft little bumps) and feeling fantastic. ROM has been 100% for a few months now. You know what worked? TIME. You've just got to be patient and make sure you're giving your knee enough recovery time and rest and then (probably after you've gone through feeling like it will never, ever improve) without doing anything different, it will start to feel normal again. So don't worry - just try to be patient!
post #17 of 55
Thread Starter 
Thank you again AltaGirl. My frustration lies in not being able to meet my PT's expectations. When she implies that I'm not healing "on schedule," it's a bit scarey.
post #18 of 55
Originally Posted by Lisamarie
Thank you again AltaGirl. My frustration lies in not being able to meet my PT's expectations. When she implies that I'm not healing "on schedule," it's a bit scarey.
I went through that - My PT expected that I'd get my ROM back earlier too. It just took some time... but I was ahead of schedule on strength and balance, so once the swelling finally went away, I was good to go.

At one point I went to my OS for an emergency appointment in a panic over my ROM because it had gone backwards and my PT also had implied that I was behind schedule on ROM. My OS said he wasn't worried - that happens to a lot of people and we all react differently (some people just end up with more swelling than others), and I wasn't really off according to his timeline. But it about made me nuts to talk to people who barely did any rehab at all, had no swelling, just did a little stretching here and there and were at full ROM when I was in the middle of all my frustration. You'd talk to someone who had a totally different experience and they'd say something like "Just try a little harder" - and I'd want to kill them (I mean, according to my doc I have a high pain tolerance too, I was icing and elevating all the time, actively working ROM for HOURS every day (there were days I was at PT followed by the gym for 6 or 7 hours straight), popping pain pills before I started, pushing myself to tears and then having my PT push it farther, and getting nowhere for it all.) And ultimately, the answer was that I needed to back off of torturing myself some and just wait and it came back on its own.

You'll be skiing again! Trust me!
post #19 of 55

Waving hi to everyone


'member me? Long long LONG time no post....I know. How are you? ok, stupid question, given the last posts Ive been reading of've joined the "ok, bindings back to FOUR" club!

I just re-stumbled on this site accidentally, and was surprised when my log-in still works!!

Ok, I just wanted to reply to this thread, cant believe YOU of all people!!! (Damned hyper-flexibility of us women) and let you know that "ill never have a leg" feeling lasts a LOOOOOng time, but eventually does go away, I swear!

Been three seasons since my ACL/MCL fiasco (not sure how I missed the meniscus, as well, but I didnt touch it. but there was alot of bone bruising so I was on crutches too) now for me.

ROM will come back, just keep up your excercise with it, my therapist INSISTED it did. he would insist every time I walked in the place, making me lie on my stomach and would pull my leg back until I cried or whacked him, whichever came first.

I recently tweaked something on the other side of my knee from the MCL...its definetly a "CL" pain but its no where nere as bad as the mcl, anyway.....It healed after two weeks rest, I skied today on the dirty green and brown slush with rocks in it at Killington. Knee is fine, wish I could say the same for my BASES!! (grrrr)

Hardest part (and that continues even up to NOW) was the mental recovery. Im still deathly afraid of re-injury, and its hard to let go. as I mentioned, this is the third season since, and Ive only just really learned to 'let go" again. its been a blast but a long time in coming.

I heard you in another post mention something about never falling again....I swear that is what you have to do to show yourself that every crash, (as spectacular as they may have been) does not equal a torn acl. it sounds easy enough until you're standing at the top of a slope-full of mashed potatoes or death cookies. even when you are about to get on the lift for the first time. wayyyyy scary. I cried, and went and got a Private. I cried all the way up the lift. the brilliant and genius instructor noted my race skis and immediealy put me on the compition slope, rather than a green, knowing full well I could ski and I just needed to get started...I eventually broke through and stopped crying half-way down the run...and realized I could still ski, and could go atleast half a run without re-injury!

anyway...hello again, sorry about your accident, keep the faith. Dont get lazy with pt (like I need to tell YOu that!) and you will come back stronger than when you went out.

good luck
post #20 of 55
Thread Starter 
Welcome back LindaA! Like you said, "me of all people." Just goes to show you, you can do all the right things, but do a few stupid things such as using skis that have the wrong din setting, and skiing a bump run at the end of the day when you're burned out, and you're toast!

It's so freakin' ironic. Back when you were posting, I had so many fear issues, that I was the laughing stock of this forum. After moving to Colorado, I started working with an instructor who was more sucessful at getting me past my inhibitions than any other instructor I've ever worked with. Unfortunately, when I lost my fear, I lost my common sense. I still fall infrequently, but of the two major falls I've had this season, I strained my MCL on the right leg, and tore the ACL, plus damaged the meniscus on the left.

I was so afraid of becoming the person I used to be {and, I admit, I was afraid of disapointing my instructor by saying "I don't want to ski that":} that I turned into a stupid person. My attitude was not the only part of my moronic behavior. Coming from New England, the newness of being 20 minutes from the slopes was too good to pass up. Since I was teaching classes, I was not out of shape. But in the afternoon, given the choice of going to the gym and doing my own workout and going to the slopes, I chose the slopes.

Ok. Enough whining!: The topic is "Good News," so I should tell you something good. At the suggestion of my PT, I took my pain meds prior to the session. Today: I GOT THE BIKE TO PEDAL IN A FULL RANGE OF MOTION!!

It's just like what happens to me in ski class. Just when I finally say, "I give up, I'll never be able to do this, that's when it happens.
post #21 of 55
I've been away for a while Lisa. Glad to hear you have recovered. No Spring trip for me this year. I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with three trips instead of four. Glad to have met you and hope to see you next year some time.
post #22 of 55
All things must pass. This will, too. Patience, Prudence!
post #23 of 55
Very nice meeting you also Bonnie. And your better half. Hopefully we can all make some turns together.
post #24 of 55
Uh, Lars, I hate to break this to ya, but I'm actually also my better half.
Nyuk, nyuk,nyuk!
post #25 of 55
Thread Starter 
Lars, I hope to spend more time with you the next time you come out here!

Something I forgot to say: My PT had been telling me that it would be easier to pedal backwards instead of foward. That was not the case for me. When I finally went full range, it was pedaling foward. Just goes to show you, no two people will rehab the same way. It also helped to plantar flex my foot.
post #26 of 55
Glad to hear things are moving in the right direction. It's easy to get impatient with the rate of progress, especially if you feel it should be going faster, but hang in there. You'll go to PT one day and PRESTO, everything will fall into place and you'll regain to the level you feel you should be at. The key, as you know, is doing what you are supposed to be doing and not pushing too hard, but also not relaxing too much.

I don't look forward to my rehab after my shoulder surgery, but at least it will be in the summer. I will have use of the pool daily, that should help.
post #27 of 55
Thread Starter 
Taught my first class yesterday. I was surprised at what I can actually do! leg flexion and extension exercises with my feet on the stability ball feel good, even if I don't have full range. I just need to point that out to my students, so that they don't copy my range.

It was interesting to discover that prone flexion and extension on the stability ball was also helpful. After my students left, I tried some flexion and extension exercises on my pro fitter, both from a seated and standing position. Not bad. I gingerly tried to stand on my bosu. Not much of a problem, but then again , the leg is pretty immobile, so of course its, DUH, stable.:

I went for a walk on Main street. The longest I've walked so far. Felt like I ran a marathon!: Then to Uncle Louie's party at Copper. Walked up the hill to his condo. I even danced!
On the way to the condo, I met another girl on crutches. She had been competing in the USSSC Freestyle event when she tore her ACL. We comisserated, and I told her the ropes. DO NOT PUT A PILLOW UNDER YOUR KNEE, etc.

Woke up at 5:00am in pain, but what else is new? PT today. I've either hurt or helped myself. We shall see.
post #28 of 55
good to hear you are on the mend now ....

Don't overdo it though....
post #29 of 55
[quote=Lisamarie{those sponge baths were getting old!}

Then he wasn't doing them right.
post #30 of 55
Hey Lisa!

Why not put a pillow under it? I have one under mine right now as a type.
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