Originally Posted by watersurgeon
The thing ways in at 2890 lbs (300 plus lbs of that is batteries) which only allows you 1000 to 1200 lbs of additional weight. Four people, luggage, and ski equipment is going to easily hit the 1200 lbs limit.
Talk about misleading. First of all, if you can get 300lbs per person with gear, your family needs to go on a diet. Myself, a week's luggage, and a couple pair of skis still
isn't 300lbs. And I'm not
a light dude.
However, it is important to note that the useful load of a Prius is actually 900lbs, which certainly could be achieved with four adults and gear. You have 220lbs for luggage with 4 FAA standard adults. Thats enough for a weekend trip, likely not a week trip.
Useful load of a couple cars:
Ford Explorer 4wd 2005: 1350lbs. (4500lbs. curb weight)
Volvo S80 T6: 930lbs (3691lbs. curb weight)
Nissan Altima: 1090lbs (3300lbs. curb weight)
Most non-fatass modern sedans have useful loads of around 1000 pounds. The Prius is quite reasonable in this regard. It just has a lot less motive power to push it up a grade.
|Plan on driving any serious grades for example Bishop to Mammoth and you might as well be driving a motor home. Hybrid cars are worthless when it comes to loading them up and taking long trips in them. Research the complaints through google.
Worthless is a strong term. It can perform at a level that was considered acceptable on those grades a short time ago. Re: complaints on Google, there isn't a service or product on earth without complaints available via Google. Some people buy a product like a Prius without understanding its limitations and strengths, much like some people buy skis and jam them into racks and then complain when they show a mark.
|If you really plan on doing a lot of mountain hazerdous weather driving get a Four Wheel Drive vehicle. Something that you lock the hubs either manually or automatically.
Rhetorical question: What do locking hubs have to do with the perfomance of a drivetrain on loose surfaces? Absolutely nothing. In fact, whether or not the hubs lock has nothing
to do with where power is distributed, and everything to do with how a particular system is implemented.
|AWD vehicles do not do this.
No, many of them do far better.
|Our current mountain vehicle is a Ford F350 Crew Cab, Long Bed, 7.3 liter diesel. Leather interior fully loaded. Its as comfortable as any larger SUV and more reliable in bad weather.
Having a good friend with a similar truck, I can categorically state that you are deluding yourself if you think that is a better choice for a long trip than a Prius. Unless, of course, you don't mind subpar interior, subpar NVH, subpar pretty much everything but drivetrain and body. Of course, trucks aren't meant to be driven to ski areas.
|One things for sure, I have never felt safer for myself and my family before driving this vehicle.
Death rate in your vehicle is between twice and three times that of the best selling car in America.http://www.hwysafety.org/sr_ddr/sr3507_t1.htm
In general, very large pickups have greater death rates than most
This is undoubtedly due in part to the utter lack of crash testing performed on your behemoth. If it were crash tested, you could expect some pretty poor results. If you run into something stationary, the curb weight of your behemoth doesn't matter much.
|I have had a multitude of 4wd vehicles over the year. One of my favorite was the Subaru 4x4 HatchBack. I had one of the first ones that were sold in the US, I think it was 1980. By the time I got rid of that thing it had close to 400,000 miles on it. 4 trannies and 2 engines during its lifetime. Thing got great gas mileage as long as it was not loaded up, about 20-24mpg. We used to run from Orange County, CA to Squaw, Lake Tahoe an average of 20 trips a year. Fully loaded with 3-4 guys and baggage, we average about 16 mpg. Struggled up the Bishop grade.
Fast forward to today, when you can buy a WRX wagon, get better fuel mileage, and pass your behemoth like its' standing still on any grade.
Did I mention you can actually stop in a reasonable distance? Or avoid a hazard in the road? Or do any number of things you can't do driving a vehicle wholly unsuited to the task of driving
|I guess if I really wanted to get a Prius I could load it up in the bed of my F350 and still get up any mountain grade at 75+. (lol)
My last winter car could make it up a serious grade at a peak of 8000ft, loaded with two guys, 21 cu foot Thule box, 8 pair of skis, and make it up said grade at about 112 in fourth gear. Despite the fact that I admittedly drive like a total asshat, I could still manage 25mpg in mixed driving. (edit: did I mention it cost 5 grand? or that its replacement cost $800, lol)
You seem to have a whole bunch of notions about motor vehicles that just ain't true.