Originally Posted by jlong1974
This is the third or forth thread i've seen where people rip each other over tuning advice. Give me a f$@#in' break. I agree with newfydog, it's not worth missing a day of skiing. IMO the best tune is the one that makes YOU ski better. Tunes CAN BE diffrent for each person. Bevel or no bevel , detune or don't detune, if it works for YOU then who cares. Working in a shop for the last five years has shown me that only .01% of the skiing public could tell the diffrence between a 2 degree and a 3 degree bevel anyway. When are the racers in the crowd going to realize that not all the public need race tunes in order to ski the local bunny hill, and other people need to realize that racers need these tunes in order to go very fast on very hard snow/ice and still have control, they are not for everyone. Most people would not find it very fun to ski on a race tuned race stock ski. The other thing is ski tunes are diffrent in the east from in the west. Just like tuning a car for sea level or tuning it for 5280 ft. Not detuning and sharper edges are needed in the eastern man made ice, but a little detuning and softer edges can make the natural snow out west a little more predictable. Flame on if you want, but you all know I could be right.
Amen! and amen newfydog .....and about time someone said it!
I wax my own skis, I use good all purpose wax. Usually Toyo...sometimes not, no junk/ but no high end secret racing formula either. Sometimes I get real crazy and blend in a little graphite if Nastar is planned for the next day. I wax em after every ski day. Every damn time. Yes I usually scrape em (another thread went on about how it's dumb to scrape wax off) and brush bases enuff to expose the structure(I figure my tech put the structure there for a reason so I should expose it)....I tell my tech to set his computerized grinder for stock factory tune. We ski together on occasion so any tweaks he does from stock if any is based on his observations of my on hill performance and preferences. I ski Volkl, I dunno what bevel factory stock tune is....I don't care...works for me. I figure if the company spent millions to design the gear factory stock is good enuff for my "would be" expert arse. I then diamond stone, deburr and do all the obvious stuff to maintain the edge. I rotate 2 or 3 pair of personal skis, so I can usually get through each season with one run through the machine per ski per year by the tech. That doesn't cost me much money and saves me the hassle of obsessing like many of you. I prefer to go skiing. I ski the whole mountain, I race a little nastar, I ski/race in tecnical snow pants and a Karbon shortie jacket. No speed suit for me sorry tho I don't care it you wear one, I don't care if you beat me either....It all makes me smile. I have fun....getoverit!!!! I do the same thing to the skis of my entire family....they all smile too....that's my last and final friggin take on all this tuning crap..... the restaya get a life! Flame and argue over tuning. Jeesh! Some of it's intelligent but fight and argue and call each other names, cmon. This is skiing folks not WMD. (anybody found those yet BTW?)
As for putting em up for the off season....I clean em off, wax em and leave the wax on. Next season I take em to the tech for the annual pro grind (if needed of course)and start all over again. Oh and my skis are always fast via this method. Really fast, as in tuck flatten and bye bye fast. They hold like freight trains on NE "frozen granular" too. Sorry. I'm out.